Jimmy Webb's Immortal "Wichita Lineman"

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am i the only one who thinks the Justus Kohncke cover is pretty wank?

$V£N! (blueski), Friday, 8 April 2005 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link

My ex brother-in-law used to call this song, "Widget Alignment", which I used to tickle my funny bone a tad

Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Friday, 8 April 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
That "telegraph" riff at the end of the chorus sounds so familiar...what other well-known song is it used in? "Nights in White Satin"? "You Keep Me Hanging On"? (the Vanilla Fudge version??) Help a brother out.

Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 5 August 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

If you mean the rhythmic octavey bit on the guitar, a more or less identical riff is used in YKMHO (Supremes version - can't remember hearing the Vanilla Fudge version) and Starman by Bowie. Not sure which came first, always imagined it was The Supremes but could be wrong.

frankiemachine, Friday, 5 August 2005 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Supremes '66, V Fudge '67, Wichita '69, Starman '72.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 5 August 2005 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to play in a band that covered this, and we'd have dueling guitars on the outro a la Lloyd/Verlaine.
We only played it like that once or twice, but there was always someone in the audience who would freak over it.
One of the best songs ever written, no doubt.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Am I crazy that I don't see what's so great about this song? I always find the chorus really clunky "The Witchita lineman is still on the line." It sounds like a rejected ad campaign slogan or something.


I like Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb, too.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Am I crazy that I don't see what's so great about this song

yes. it is the essence of music itself.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
By the way if, by any chance, you wanna learn how to play this song on guitar and then try to find out the chords on the interweb, there's always one chord they get wrong - but which I sat down and worked out one day, I don't know what you call it but it's perfect
Well?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Possibly F6(9) right before "But it don't look like rain"?

everything, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I think that's it except we played it in G - all it is holding all the strings down at the G fret with one finger, an open chord I believe it's called

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i am a linesman for notts county

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone know how to play Webb's "P.F. Sloan"? I was truly excited recently to talk to P.F. Sloan on the phone, he was here in Nashville recording a new album with Jon Tiven and a bunch of people. Very nice fellow, he played the Bluebird (I ended up writing the blurb for the show) but I missed it, because the same night the ultra-rare Eggleston film/video "Stranded in Canton" played.

I think that F6-9 is right for "Wichita," by the way--I've always played it in F major.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9x_1Ri3XxE&feature=related

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 30 March 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Worthy of note: It still pains Jimmy Webb to this day that he "falsely" rhymed time with line.

libcrypt, Sunday, 30 March 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Heard him confess this on Fresh Air.

libcrypt, Sunday, 30 March 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Jimmy Webb is a grumpy old man.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 30 March 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I just want to say the comment section in that Glen Campbell youtube link above is the greatest thing I have ever read in my entire life.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 30 March 2008 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link

One of my favourite songs ever

'And I need you more than want you and I want you for all time'

The Urge Overkill version is worth a listen. MASSIVE open, alt- tuned chords.I just love the last eight bars. It finishes on one of those lovely suspended chords. If anybody knows the chord, please let me know!

The original is the best though. What a voice!

Fer Ark, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

the reunion album is v. good

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, 12 December 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Somebody on my Facebook just shared a video of this song, seeing fit to add the caption "Bitches love a lineman!" to the post.

Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 June 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

Really dumb but very touching misinterpretation of the song by its best interpreter at the end of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6J99mWFqMU&feature=related

Three Word Username, Friday, 29 June 2012 07:00 (eleven years ago) link

Would love to see that version of "Daddy Sang Bass" in its entirety

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 June 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

no one mention freedy johnston's version yet?
pretty solid.

jimmy_chop, Friday, 29 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

No, it was mentioned a few times.

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

One of the greatest songs ever.

Hell, even Kool & the Gang covered it on Live at the Sex Machine

This was so mindblowing to me when I found out about it. I mean what now?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 29 June 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

Went on Spotify and didn't see Kool and the Gang version but did find one by Dennis Brown.

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

OK, got it thx.

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

We discussed the GC farewell tour a little on this thread Glen Campbell: Outlaw!

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Obviously the best song ever written. Maria McKee does a particularly haunting version of it.

Everything You Like Sucks, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

well shit

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 July 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link

damn, Glen's people are fast!

Love this one. Looks like Glen is on some other planet with a 6-string bass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 July 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link

(and one of my favorite covers of it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPGPDFHbVjk

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 July 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nFYK5IGDUY

pplains, Saturday, 27 July 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link

i'm currently working out a cover of this for my cabaret project.

hannah arendt you glad you didn't say banana (get bent), Saturday, 27 July 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

Love this one. Looks like Glen is on some other planet with a 6-string bass.

That's the Jaguar Baritone guitar.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 July 2013 05:19 (ten years ago) link

Baritone guitar suggestions?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 July 2013 05:19 (ten years ago) link

That's the Jaguar Baritone guitar.

Nope. It's a Bass VI - three pickups instead of the two on the Jag baritone. More to the point, Jag baritones weren't made until 2004.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 July 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Bass_VI ) - "Glen Campbell used a Fender Bass VI (borrowed from fellow Wrecking Crew musician Carol Kaye to play the solo heard on his songs "Wichita Lineman" and "Galveston"."

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 July 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link

http://www.americansongwriter.com/2012/01/behind-the-song-wichita-lineman/

“He and (producer) Al DeLory were obviously looking for a follow-up to ‘Phoenix.’ And I remember writing ‘Wichita Lineman’ that afternoon. That was a song I absolutely wrote for Glen.”

It was the first time he had written a song expressly for another artist. But had he conceived any part of “Wichita” before that call?

“Not really,” Jimmy says. “I mean I had a lot of ‘prairie gothic’ images in my head. And I was writing about the common man, the blue-collar hero who gets caught up in the tides of war, as in ‘Galveston,’ or the guy who’s driving back to Oklahoma because he can’t afford a plane ticket (‘Phoenix’). So it was a character that I worked with in my head. And I had seen a lot of panoramas of highways and guys up on telephone wires … I didn’t want to write another song about a town, but something that would be in the ballpark for him.”

So even though it was written specifically for Glen, he still wanted it to be a ‘character’ song?

“Well, I didn’t want it to be about a rich guy!” he laughs. “I wanted it to be about an ordinary fellow. Billy Joel came pretty close one time when he said ‘Wichita Lineman’ is ‘a simple song about an ordinary man thinking extraordinary thoughts.’ That got to me; it actually brought tears to my eyes. I had never really told anybody how close to the truth that was.

“What I was really trying to say was, you can see someone working in construction or working in a field, a migrant worker or a truck driver, and you may think you know what’s going on inside him, but you don’t. You can’t assume that just because someone’s in a menial job that they don’t have dreams … or extraordinary concepts going around in their head, like ‘I need you more than want you; and I want you for all time.’ You can’t assume that a man isn’t a poet. And that’s really what the song is about.”

He wasn’t certain they would go for it. “In fact, I thought they hadn’t gone for it,” he says. “They kept calling me back every couple of hours and asking if it was finished. I really didn’t have the last verse written. And finally I said, ‘Well, I’m gonna send it over, and if you want me to finish it, I’ll finish it.’

“A few weeks later I was talking to Glen, and I said, ‘Well I guess Wichita Lineman didn’t make the cut.’ And Glen said, ‘Oh yeah! We recorded that!’ And I said, ‘Listen, I didn’t really think that song was finished …’ And he said, ‘Well it is now!’”

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 July 2013 05:53 (ten years ago) link

Stop killing my dreams man.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 July 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link

That is most likely the Bass VI heard all over Pet Sounds and Smile if that's Carole's.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 July 2013 06:07 (ten years ago) link

Nope. She played a regular P-bass throughout the Wrecking Crew years - only real non-standardness being flat-wound strings and playing with a pick.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 July 2013 06:52 (ten years ago) link

Does anyone have a Spotify J Webb performed by others playlist for the novice?

Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 27 July 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Nope. She played a regular P-bass throughout the Wrecking Crew years - only real non-standardness being flat-wound strings and playing with a pick.

Surely she played guitar and baritone guitar on sessions as well.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

The lyrical interpretation earlier in this thread was pretty eye-opening; I always figured "And if it snows that that stretch down south won't ever stand the strain" meant "If she freezes me out, these blue balls are gonna kill me."

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 27 July 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

some weapons-grade challopery up in this thread

Mancunian stagger (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 July 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link


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