Peanuts: Search and Destroy

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El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

It would never end. And that might be a good thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

has anyone else seen that new book of MAD parodies of comic strips? "the dysfunctional bush family circus"!!

"who broke into the liquor cabinet and made this mess?" "not me!"

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

the peanuts series will indeed get kinda mundane around 1980 or so (i still stand by most of the 70s stuff), but it'll get good again around 1998 - the last couple of years was really wonderful. snoopy was even acting like a real dog again.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

There's also a definite early eighties landmark when Schulz had to go into the hospital and translated many of his experiences into an extended story of Charlie Brown being sick. One of his best long narratives.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
"Take the Paxil, Charlie Brown"
http://citypages.com/databank/25/1229/article12244.asp

If you guys don't read this, nobody will...

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Very fine article indeed. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Or maybe, the owner wants to hypnotise himself into thinking that Marmaduke is a gd and obedient doggy

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, that's a good article, especially on Lucy's role in Peanuts. I was struck by the line "Much has been made of Schulz's supposed fear of a female planet." a few "women's lib" jokes aside, I always thought Schulz was light-years ahead of most cartoonists when it came to portraying women (okay, girls). the female characters in the strip - Lucy, Peppermint Patty, Marcie, even Sally - all had their quirks, but they were all brasher, stronger and more outgoing than any of the male characters (unless you count Snoopy). Lynn Johnston has often said that this aspect of Peanuts was a major inspiration to her, and it's no surprise to me that Dan Clowes names him as one of his top influences (could Enid be a teenage Lucy? I'll have to think about that one for a while...)

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link

that article was wonderful, pete - thanks for linking. slowly getting through the first volume of the book - its too pretty to leave in the bathroom.

stevie (stevie), Friday, 25 June 2004 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1560976144.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I've finished the first volume, and I've got six more months left of Volume II. I miss Schulz more with every strip and count myself fortunate that I got to read his strips fresh and new every day in the newspaper.

Last night, I hit two strips that were a bit different. One had Shermy going through Charlie Brown's comic book collection: "Wow, you've got Revolutionary War stories, War of 1812 stories, Civil War stories, World War I stories, World War II stories, Korean War stories..." to which Charlie Brown responds, "I'm kinda worried about the next issue."

And Lucy being tethered to a rope going BWHAHM! in her imitation of a hydrogen bomb.

In the first volume, Schulz illustrated a comics rack stacked with titles like FEAR and HATE which I found a bit unsettling for a Peanuts strip. However, I do enjoy the fact that the volumes are being published by Fantagraphics, also home to Hate by Peter Bagge.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't think Fantagraphics and Bagge don't know it! I think that panel was featured in an old letters page of Hate. To quote C.B., "What a beautiful gory layout!"

My box set of the first two volumes just arrived from Amazon today. I am a happy man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Schulz kept doing that, though -- consider the early 70s strips where Snoopy goes off to give a speech and it turns into an anti-Vietnam protest/riot.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
i've been reading a lot of peanuts recently, from all eras, and its got me wondering... is this really a healthy strip for kids to read? it sounds like a flip statement, and i've always believed the strip was fantastic because it explores the really scary dark shit of childhood in an entirely natural, non-patronising manner - i'm sure that's why kids and adults alike love it.

but it's not hard to interpret the strip as eulogising various unhealthy traits - low self esteem, unrequited love, etc. i sometimes joke that i want to be linus but am more like charlie brown, but i've been wondering recently whether reading lots of peanuts strips as a kid might've instilled some subconscious belief that the misery depicted on a day-to-day basis in the comic was some kind of normalcy, that i may have transposed charlie brown's own anxieties upon my own.

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh, I've heard the same thing from folks who obsessed over the Smiths and Moz lyrics too much earlier in their lives saying, "It encouraged a bad state of mind," etc. Now, as someone who loves both Smiths and Schulz ;-) perhaps I'm not the best of judges, but while I have my bleak moments, they are generally that -- moments. I don't sense myself having been crippled or however you'd like to phrase it by either of them, so I think it's less the art than it is the reader and how one responds to the art.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I loved Peanuts as a kid. In hindsight, the "darkness", occasional cynicism, lonliness, depression, questions about life, etc - all of that really rubbed me the right way. I wasn't really a depressive kid either, in fact usually the opposite, but I was pretty introverted, and Peanuts was like a whole other group of friends.

that said, just finished the 1955-56 complete book, and getting ready to start on the 57-58 one. These are still really great strips!

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been slowly going through the first four volumes - so beautiful and harsh at the same time.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: Charlotte Braun

In 2000, it became known that a fan of Peanuts had written Schulz a letter requesting that Charlotte Braun be removed. Schulz wrote back, promising to remove the character but asking the reader if she wanted to be responsible for "the death of an innocent child". The letter included a picture of Charlotte Braun with an ax in her head. The letter has been donated to the Library of Congress.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

to be fair, she is a pretty lame character (tho seems to be a little bit "reincarnated" in Peppermint Patty, whose introduction to the strip I am eagerly awaiting in subsequent volumes...)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I appreciate her 'why me' look.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

charlie brown's reaction to being called "chuck" for the first time on PP's first appearance is one of the funniest things to ever appear in the strip.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder how much that ax drawing would have gotten at an auction?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

It wouldn't get anywhere near enough to be as valuable as this is for me:

http://static.flickr.com/38/102893701_e6aea87e1a.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"I loved Peanuts as a kid. In hindsight, the "darkness", occasional cynicism, lonliness, depression, questions about life, etc -"


LA Locals, currently there is a comics exhibit at the Hammer museum in Westwood. "Chuck" Schultz is on display with many of his contemporaries and even some pre- contemps. Some of it's trite, but others are outstanding in their oblique and darker references. Worth a look since Thursday's admission is FREE! Lichtenstein's Polaroid's are awesome too.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, there's no way Schulz drew that Charlotte Braun/ax drawing. Unless he was like really drunk or something - it doesn't look anything like his style!

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, it looks just like one of his casual sketches - there's a lot of them in that chip kidd book and in the old peanuts jubilee. plus remember that drawing's from 1953 or so.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Nice story about Jeannie Schultz.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
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stet (stet), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it too big, or am I just a chump? If it appears below, I'm a chump.

http://wires.thehold.net/files/anime.jpg

stet (stet), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, now everyone can be sure.

stet (stet), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

What, another Smashing Pumpkins cartoon? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
oooh 59-62 volumes are now out. I just can't afford to keep up with these, I don't get enough Borders/Amazon gift certificates....

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, I missed that manga-ized version of Charlie Brown, Linus and Lucy before. I only wish I'd missed it this time.
best not to dwell on it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

That latest volume is pretty great -- it's when strips that I know start appearing.

Oh, golly, I could go on about a particularly fantastic moment in that most recent volume, but I'm a little too tired to right now. Remind me later.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

I've just now completed a crucial rite of passage, after about 13 years in limbo. When I were a nipper, we were given a VCR copy of 'Bon Voyage Charlie Brown (And Don't Come Back)', missing the first five and last twenty minutes. As a kid, I absolutely loved it and watched it time after time, memorising the dialogue, artwork and music as I did so. Tonight I watched the whole thing for the first time. It held up beautifully, although the end was a little rushed. Most of it conveyed a certain kind of accident-prone, angst-ridden early youth that I was all too familiar with, although seeing it now, my sympathies switched to Snoopy and Woodstock, who had by far the most whimsical, philosophical, adult perspective on things. One golden moment I hadn't seen before was Woodstock emerging from a fire hose bearing his violin, which he then proceeded to play. One golden moment I'd just missed as a child was that whilst the boys + animals watched an in-flight movie called 'Happy Bunnies', the girls watched one called something like 'Naughty Esmerelda'! Ahem. And what was all that French swearing in the automobile wreck! 'Oooh le con' indeed...

Just got offed, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

i regret to tell you that "naughty marietta" (which i'm pretty sure was the movie) isn't quite as naughty as one would hope: http://imdb.com/title/tt0026768/

J.D., Monday, 16 July 2007 04:40 (sixteen years ago) link

ILX's JD is a true star for repping for late period Peanuts

A B C, Monday, 16 July 2007 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't imagine how hard I'd lose my shit watching Bon Voyage, Charlie Brown today, I can barely deal with first season episodes of Frasier

A B C, Monday, 16 July 2007 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link

And what was all that French swearing in the automobile wreck! 'Oooh le con' indeed...

i always thought they were shouting "oooh! le car!" - seeing as charlie brown's request for un pain was phrased as "une loaf de bread".

the gang visit wimbledon too in this one. i still prefer 'a boy named charlie brown' though.

stevie, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

There's also the bit where they can't understand the guy offering them steak and kidney pie.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

and yet they can understand teachers who talk like muted trumpets...

stevie, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Well duh, those are AMERICAN teachers.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Then again I suppose Othmar could be Lithuanian in background or something.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Trombonian.

Casuistry, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

This I believe.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Peanuts, by Charles Bukowski

Amazingly, not bad as I'd thought it would have been. Brilliant even.

Roz, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link


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