Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

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i've got lots of ian matthews rekkerds. i dig them.

the quiver records aren't that great, ian. they're okay. not Poco great though.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Ian Matthews records I would definitely recommend:


matthews southern comfort - s/t (debut)

matthews southern comfort - second spring

matthews southern comfort - later that same year

plainsong - in search of amelia earhart

solo records:

journeys from gospel oak

stealin' home

valley hi

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never heard those vertigo records though! i'm sure i would like them.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't he part of Pentangle or something?

he was an original member of Fairport. Then he fell in love with the West Coast and relocated.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

he= matthews

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i even have a southern comfort album without matthew that's pretty good.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this thread! It has turned me on to a whole lot of good music. Can't get enough.

Not all West Coast and some '60s but same overall vibe:

Mason Proffit, Coshise, Bronco, Merrell Fankhauser & HMS Bounty, Taos, Cherokee, Yellow Hand, Hearts & Flowers, Country Funk, High Mountain, the Superfine Dandelion, Gove, Help Yourself.

mcddcm, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i have that Country Funk album. def has that CSNY vibe

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'ver been meaning to pick up some Cochise and Help Yourself.

The reissue of Mighty Baby's A Jug of Love LP rules and really is one of the UK's greatest "West Coast bands." That guitar player, Martin Stone (?), plays some wonderfully fluid runs.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i dig Mason Proffit. I even have a couple of albums that John Michael Talbot made after he became a monk. they're pretty good. mellow new-agey monk folk.


http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00005OACU.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

another band I like that gets forgotten is Redeye. I dig their first album a lot. total dollar record.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

is that "The Smoke" record (michael lloyd, not the british band)as great as some people say, and when is it ever gonna be reissued?

gershy, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess Talbot grew tired of singing about the plight of the Native American.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

^ am i reading between seward's lines well enough and you're C.E.?

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not chuck. that's quantumnoise.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

this is good if you see it for a dollar:


http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/m/a/mariah390871.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

BY FAR, one of the best albums I've heard in recent months:


http://www.allmanbrothers.info/images/chronologycowboy.jpg



so great.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

and i have a later Cowboy album that isn't nearly as good, so i wasn't really expecting it to knock my socks off or anything. but it did. duane allman plays on one track.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

sometime it seems all i have in stock are these kinds of records,then i realize that cant really be possible

danbunny, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

you should give them all to me. nobody wants them anyway.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish i could go with you on the philly/new york/prov/boston leg of your tour, danny. but it would be impossible. it would be fun though.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

^ am i reading between seward's lines well enough and you're C.E.?

that's just me, boring old quantumnoise. i was just riffing on the fact that mason proffit wrote a couple tunes about the plight of the Native American then Talbot becomes a monk. Strange!

Seward, you are overloading my chuckwagon! man, i want to hear all these jams.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

see, it's you guys using the word chuckwagon that threw me off

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, that's just cuz i want people to get on the Poco chuckwagon. jeez, all the love for neil and buffalo springfield and the like...


http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/130/134176.jpg


http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0000024VY.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS500_.jpg


http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002AP0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS500_.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

u can come we will have room for one more in th caravan..just make sum tyme in yur lyfe

danbunny, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I both love and hate these threads because they remind me a) they remind me how much great stuff is still out there that I've never heard of, and b) that you guys have WAY more time and money than me to spend hunting it down.

:(

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

it's just a part of my life. some people go camping. or whitewater rafting. and i don't spend as much on music as people who buy tons of CDs at CD stores.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

no one buys tons of CDs at CD stores anymore Scott

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean I can't fathom the amount of time I would have to spend on Gemm or Amazon or at record stores and flea markets to even find half this stuff, expense of actual purchases notwithstanding

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a pretty decent and kind of overlooked album by a band that included Michael Lloyd from the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band. Album and band are called "Friends" and it's vinyl only (though cheap). Best track is an Easybeats cover, while the rest is pretty good along the lines of the late 60's Bee Gees.

dlp9001, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't heard hardly anything. ebay drives me insane. so much stuff i want and can't afford. i rely on luck. and guile. i really should have gone to college. and run a hedge-fund or something.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to the self titled Humble Pie album. in between fake zep tracks (that's coming from somone who loves fake zep) they have nice country and folk tracks.

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always been curious about the Marriott-era Humble Pie but never bothered... I do, however LOVE the Small Faces Zeppier moments (Rollin Over, Afterglow, etc.), is it more of that, just with country and folk fluorishes...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

rock on is cool.


http://www.recordresearch.com/Album_Photos/images/Humble%20Pie.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i like all that stuff though. i've never actually heard their first album. that's folkier and less cock rockin' i think. we were just talking about humble pie somewhere on ilm.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

that cover hurts my brane tho

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw this thread title and immediately did a command-F for "homestead" to see if anyone had mentioned the Homestead & Wolfe album.

and, folks, Tim Ellison is right. It's kind of Poppy Family-ish with Mamas-and-the-Papas harmonies? Gorgeous, in other words.

babyalive, Friday, 6 April 2007 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

also btw/fyi, there are people who call this genre of music "rec. room rock" which is pretty appropriate. not as derisive as dadrock.

ian, Saturday, 7 April 2007 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Humble Pie's first LP is pretty damn cool: acoustic blues and folk with a solid rhythm section -- plus, some ballads and a rocker or two. It's more low key than "Afterglow" and more "natural" sounding, if that makes sense. I say you get that Lost and Found LP, which has the first twi Pie record packaged as one. I actually dig the second LP a bit more. Their version of Steppenwolf's "Desperation," with three lead vocalists, is sweet.

QuantumNoise, Saturday, 7 April 2007 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I got Town & Country this weekend - haven't listened to all of it yet, but preferred what I heard off the second album. is it me or is there some weird Led Zep quote at the beginning of the first song...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

AMG Album of The Day

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"changes, circles spinning" from Truly Fine Citizen.

ian I love this song too.

scott I tried some poco albums, liked the debut & live one best.

I'm down with you guys on ian matthews/southern comfort, only have one track from amelia earhart on my computer but it's amazing. listened to one of his later 70s albums tho and it was surprisingly stinky.

m coleman, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Truly Fine Citizen album I have on LP--the "circles spinning" song is great and the title track is one of the finest things ever, such concision. I don't know if anyone mentioned this upthread, but I've been way into the Gosdin Brothers' '68 Songs of Goodbye LP--Big Beat reissued it about ten years ago with extra tracks. Great country-rock, Byrds-like, but the Gosdins sing way more country than the Byrds or Gene Clark. They're excellent singers and they even do a cool version of Ewan McCall's "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"! And a funny '67 social-consciousness tune called "Uncommitted Man." Plus, the Clarence White guitar throughout is stunning.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i just got this the other day:


http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00006BC4U.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS500_.jpg


(on vinyl though. unfortunately, collector's choice cds have a bad habit of sounding like poop.)

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

just can't find a good picture of this stoneman family album, which is a shame cuz it rules and they is all hippied out and i LOVE the album. they do great creedence covers:

http://www.lpdiscography.com/s/Stonemans/stonemans_inallhonesty.jpg


i need to get a copy of their California Blues album from the same time:


http://www.lpdiscography.com/s/Stonemans/stonemans_californiablues.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

that first one looks like its by "The Dullards"

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 9 April 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

re: ian/iain matthews - look for THE SOUL OF MANY PLACES - a comp of the Plainsong record and 2-3 of his ealy 70s west coast albums - it's about 80% of all you'd need from him (i like If You Saw Thro' My Eyes too)

gershy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the ian matthews track "road to ronderlin", also from later that same year. the line that goes "oh, my wife, i have been such the fool..." is in my head an inexplicable amount of the time.

ian, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

right now i'm listening to unhalfbricking, and though it's not my favorite fairport record (or is it? huh. it used to be the first album indisputably) i love it so much. it just kills me, the attention to detail in the arrangements. absolutely gorgeous.

ian, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow!! This thread went kerrrazy!! That Quinaime album was disappointing, yeah. One track sounded like WAR, which is no bad thing, but no stand-out tracks.

I'm makin a vow to stop passing on Poco albums.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link


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