Scottish things and people that I like

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Electric Brae is rubbish, by the way.

I forgot that most of all I love Gregory's Girl and Belle and Sebastian.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Butteries!
I went to uni in Aberdeen as some of you will know and was finally able eulogise them in print when I was commissioned to write the Herald Student Guide last year.

2. Eat a buttery
A traditional Doric delicacy, the Aberdeen buttery rowie is a gloriously Atkins-unfriendly combination of flour, yeast, salt and fat. Don’t be put off by the rock hard specimens they serve in Halls – get yourself to a local bakery for the real deal. Eaten with a nice bowl of homemade soup, there’s nothing better to fortify you against the North-East winter.

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Scottish things I like

Absolutely and Still Game. The book Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner. Ivor Cutler and the Incredible String Band. Some of the ned slang/retorts. "Away an run up ma ribs" etc. Irn Bru and anything Tunnocks. Oh and Altered Images. Scotch broth, Abroath Smokeys.

r.d. must lurk less. (fractal), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The Tesco across the road from my house now sells butteries. I didn't know you even got them down here. I love them. They are so supremely bad for you, yet brilliant at the same time. When I was tentatively making friends with people at university in first year, I immediately latched onto the bloke who asked if I would bring him back butteries when I went back home to Inverness.

Other good things: Mackies honeycomb icecream, Highland cattle, the Jesus and Mary Chain, Still Game (xpost!), Archie Gemmill's goal against Holland, West Highland accents.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

GREGORY'S GIRL!!

YOu know, all these things "feel" the same, even Momus. It's like, I dunno, a droll yet twee grimness.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of the ned slang/retorts

God, yes. The phrase "yer maw" is fantastic.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

YOu know, all these things "feel" the same, even Momus. It's like, I dunno, a droll yet twee grimness.

Yes, they do, but I think you can do that if you just pick things that are similar. I mean, Eddie Reader, Taggart, Thingummyjig and Joey Deacon Blue don't feel like that.

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the great things about Scotland is it's proximity to England, (geographically) and America (culturally). We always have somewhere else to go, should we so desire.

Anyway, while you're mulling that one over, here's a random alternative list of non-pastoral, not gently surreal, uncosy spokespersons of a nation:

Janice Galloway (writer)
Bobbie Gillespie (musician)
Wattie Buchan from The Exploited (punk)
Bill Drummond (artist)
George Galloway (politician)
Elaine C. Smith (actress)
Alex Ferguson (sports mananger)
Peter Mullen (actor/director)

Excellent at swearing, all of them.


everything, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

George Galloway (politician)
Elaine C. Smith (actress)
Alex Ferguson (sports mananger)

Add Rosie Kane and you've pretty much got the antithesis of the spokeslist I would make.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Which Tesco is that Ailsa? I must pick some butteries up tomorrow. :)
Mackies honeycomb ice cream is gorgeous. Yum yum. Damn, all this talk of food is making me hungry.

Yeah, Gregory's Girl is great. Much love for Local Hero too. Still not seen That Sinking Feeling though. Must seek it out. What's Bill Forsyth up to these days?

Whisky Galore!

Takin' Over The Asylum

Robbie Shepherd (presents the Scottish country dancing programme on BBC Radio Scotland and spiks the Doric. His Doric column (boom boom) is the best thing about the Press & Journal. He's a dude, min.

Doric chat up lines: "Fit like ma bonny quine?"

Yer maw! Fannybaws! Whit!

Still Game is great of course (and it's on in ten minutes, hurrah!) but Navid deserves singular praise. "Ye mad shagger ye!" "Quality."

Bud Neill - surrealist Glaswegian cartoonist of the 50s. Created Lobey Dosser, whose statue sits on Woodlands Road. The strip transplants an East End community to the Wild West. Sheriff Lobey Dosser rides a two legged horse called El Fideldo and his arch nemesis is Rank Badjin. Its sensibility is remarkably modern, rich in references to pop culture of the time. Really odd and funny. http://netsavvy.co.uk/lobey/

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm off to watch Still Game in a couple of minutes. Tescos is in Renfrew and I will bring butteries to the next Glasgow FAP. I can bring a bad old VHS copy of That Sinking Feeling as well if you like.

Taking Over the Asylum is utter genius and if you search it on ILX you'll find me calling for repeated repeats for the rest of all time. Or something. I wuv it. David Tennant! Ken Stott! Katy Murphy!

I have oddly high levels of affection for both Robbie Shepherd and The Beechgrove Garden.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Janice Galloway was my English teacher for a couple of years.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Scottish bands I rate:

The old Old school - The Rezillos, The Skids
The prophets without honour - The Thanes, Gin Goblins
The new school - Sluts of Trust, Sons and Daughters

I'm so bored with: our WONDERFUL post-punk heritage

Soukesian, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course Eugene Reynolds is about as English as you can get. His devotion to wacky Americana is very Scottish though.

everything, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Scottish things I like:

- Loch Awe
- Morar
- Glenfinnan monument
- Glasgow Celtic
- Scotch Pie
- Deuchars IPA
- Pub opening (by which I mean closing) hours
- Bert's Bar, Stockbridge
- The table football machine that I played in the pretty cool pub in Newtown
- The Forth Rail Bridge
- Belle and Sebastian
- The spring sky in Lothian


Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I like other people reminding me of things I love so much that I take them for granted (Forth Rail Bridge and pubs that open at 8 in the morning and stay open till 1am especially). And Celtic, though I don't associate them with being Scottish, funnily enough.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Still Game was quality.

"Can't remember the last time I had a bloody boner. I tell I lie. Judy Finnegan, before she went shakey."

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

The table football machine that I played in the pretty cool pub in Newtown

The Star Bar?

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, a pint of Deuchars Aye-PA needs mentioned again. The third. It is the best pint I reckon.

I like the Forth Road Bridge best actually.

I like pubs that stay open 'til 3am and pubs that open at 4am.

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I hereby scrap my entire list of things and replace them with Navid from Still Game.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The Star bar! Yes! Metallic, and Argentinian. Nice beer too.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

fucking hell. i've missed still game again, haven't i?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i hate almost all scottish food. all of it. including butteries and tablet. yuck! irn bru is the nastiest bevvy on earth. fried mars bar are a big disappointment.
i do like chips and cheese, however.

dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

yuxxxx

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Talisker, Oban, Drambuie. Oh, and fried toast and fried tomatoes at breakfast, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yum.

lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

hamish macbeth, west highland terriers and glaswegian accents

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

How do you Scotspeople feel about Billy Connolly?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I almost forgot that my dog is Scottish also! So, Shetland Sheepdogs as well.

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Collies (altho favorite collie stories are by the very American writer Albert Payson Terhune, I never really got anywhere with BOB, SON OF BATTLE b/c of the dialog written in brogue)
2. B&S, obv
3. Iain M. Banks
4. Highland/National/country dance
5. Sheila, a little old lady who still has her hair rolled in a '40s way, chainsmokes, and has the smoothest skip-change-of-step even though she's almost as wide as she is tall (mostly because she is very short).

Laurel, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

rjg

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

my old friend Dylin, who, when i played him some Herbie Hancock said "is this Massive Attack"? of course, i thought all of his Bush Records sleeves said "Duby" for like three months, so...

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i also love twitch and johnny, and ivor cutler.

according to a friend, the only thing "fierce" about bobby gillespie is his smell.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

well according to a friend of mine, there's another 'thing' about bobby gillespie that's something fierce indeed.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

How do you Scotspeople feel about Billy Connolly?

Should have been throttled to death at birth.

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link

...by accordion players from Glenrothes.

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

...wearing black leather gloves.

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link

okay i haven't read this thread yet but i did a ctrl+f and there's NO pastels references wtf?

noise dude, you're stepping on my mystique (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link

My appreciation for Stephen Pastel is well-documented elsewhere on ILX.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with Momus!

I don't agree with the person who said George Galloway and Elaine C Smith though.

Are butteries as good as lardy cakes, Ailsa?

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link

robin jenkins

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been surprised again and again by the sheer numbers and diversity of things invented by Scots, thanks to my Scottish Englightenment book. Apart from the obvious technical and engineering and philosophical accomplishments, these struck me as so obvious that we take them for granted, but were invented by a pioneering lecturer at the University of Glasgow:

-Lecturing in English, rather than reading aloud notes in Latin
-Discussion and discourse between Lecturer and Students during the course of lectures

It Is What A Man Does Which Demeans Him, Not What Is Done To Him (kate), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

(The only famous Scots I am definitely related to are rogues like Lord George Gordon and, well, Andrew Carnegie. That great philanthropic rogue.)

It Is What A Man Does Which Demeans Him, Not What Is Done To Him (kate), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 07:28 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.greatestcities.com/8841pic/448/CP49448.jpg/Glasgow_Easter_2005_197.JPG

Only in the afternoons mind, is the hot water in the gents still scalding?

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 07:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a drawing on Glen Michael's Cartoon Cavalcade once. It was Wile-e-Coyote chasing the Road Runner, with a wee flap up the top. Under the flap I'd scribbled "BEEP BEEP!". It didn't win, but it did mean I got a birthday card from Glen for a couple of years after. It had a cartoon of an American Indian on the front, with Glen's head superimposed! Only thing was, it came in an "STV" envelope, and my sister convinced me it was from the Heinz Beans people, and they wanted me to appear in the next advert, and that I didn't have a choice, it was like conscription, i HAD to do it. I shat myself.

bg (creamolafoam), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"irn bru is the nastiest bevvy on earth"

Heretic! Mind you, it's probably why I have fillings now. I drink it quite rarely now.

Billy Connolly: well, he's just another annoying celeb now, but in his day he was very, very funny.

Lord Kelvin - invented loads of cool stuff, worked on the first and second transatlantic cables, established many common practices in the study and teaching of science.

Ian Crichton Smith (poet)

Lucky Luke

Bert Jansch

Linda Thompson

Alisdair Roberts

Cheery Bananas fanzine

Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link

My brother had a birthday card on GMCC, clear evidence he was the favourite. I also have an abiding memory of a GMCC annual being the only Christmas present I ever got from my Uncle Robert. Surely, however, you knew you were too old for GMCC when you suddenly realised the cartoons were shit and could see that Glen hated them too? For me, that era was Birdman and Won-won-won-won-wonder Wheels.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I was apparently terrified of Paladin when I was a baby. I must confess to sneakily enjoying River City.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link

It was an odd collection of bargain-basement cartoons wasn't it? And what about Glen's "AAA-schee-a-waa, a-schee-a-waa, a-schee-a-waa!!!" baby-speak routine whenever he read out a card for 1st birthdays?
Anyway, other good Scottish things: Weir's Way, strawberry picking and Fence records.

bg (creamolafoam), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Food:

As mentioned, rowies come very, very close to best Scottish foodstuff ever. Strong showings also by tablet, pies (especially with a bit of bovril poured through the hole in the lid), bridies, haggis, white pudding, red pudding, fruit pudding, fruit dumpling, the entire output of the Tunnocks and Lees factories (speaking of which, someone who used to work for Frances had their wedding cake made by Tunnocks - how ace is that?), irn bru, irn bru chews, deep fried pizza, pizza crunchie, smoked sausage suppers, 'sauce' (though this is lost outside of the East coast), pakora and tattie scones.

But there can only be one winner. PLAIN BREAD.

In a world of lesser carbohydrates, plain bread bestrides the world like a collossus. For those who have never encountered this behemoth, a brief description. Rather than square, plain bread is loosely rectangular around 7" tall by about 4" wide. The top and bottom crusts are around half an inch thick (including the immediately surrounding bread) and most closely resemble masonry painted black. The intervening six inches comprises dough with an atomic weight in five figures. It wasn't so much mixed, as drew the ingredients into the gravitational field it was generating. Eating it requires a spare set of jaws, to take up the chewing when your normal set are tired.

The Pilgrim Fathers took large amounts of plain bread with them to the Americas as temporary accomodation. The Titanic is rumoured to have sunk following an unsuccessful attempt to patch the iceberg hole with plain bread, leading to a weight shift and change in centre of gravity for the hull causing it to tip. A small child once survived in an old fridge in Barlanark for 8 weeks, living on rainwater and half a slice of plain bread.

So why do we love it? Well, it makes great toast (not that it fits in a toaster) especially with lemon curd. But the main reason is surely that most lovely of treats made from leftovers, the PIECE 'n' MINCE.
Name me another bread man enough to carry mince, gravy, carrots and totties without leaking or falling apart.

Exactly.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

don't forget DOT TO DOT!
ha!
stew, you are scarily patriotic. my goodness. who woulda thunkit?

dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link


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