Best Werner Herzog Film

Overrated

Summer Hours is better

;)

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I love the scene in TWD where Herzog is telling Dorrington why not having him w/ camera on the first airship flight is "a stupid stupidity."

whenev I try to imitate him it comes out like Arnold, but how great would WH be as CA governor?

<3 x 1000000000000000

watched Stroszek yesterday (Superbowl? what's that?) - what a goofy little movie. scene w/premature baby = disturbing.

it's his best movie imo.
works like a twisted combination between humanistic social realism and david lynch surrealism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcoqeNdMAfA

i don't remember any premature baby and i just rewatched it a couple months ago

oh wait yeah i do

Stroszek himeslf kinnda premature baby ..

it was overshadowed in my memory by the fart-lighting scene

what the hell 'even dwarfs started small' is on youtube in its entirety

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrV36ffFWw

lmao @ camel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uFDSQ_Ius

yeah def some precursors to Lynch (and Jarmusch?) - strikes a great tone between pathos and comedy. Bruno S is alternately pitiable and hilarious... the final sequence with the robbery (of a barbershop?) and then grocery shopping and ski-lift. And the car spinning around on auto was like a quote from Even Dwarfs Started Small, no?

btw that youtube channel also has My Best Fiend, Aguirre, Woyzeck,and The Enigma Of Kaspar Hauser

Stroszek is amazing. Need to see The White Diamond, Nosferatu and Hauser ASAP.

another WTF scene - nephew pulling out one of his teeth in autoshop

Stroszek is prob my favourite WH movie too. That or Aguirre. I love the auction scene and the all scenes with the man from the bank. And of course the ski-lift/car/chicken scene.

Storszek is definetely my favourite Herzog movie. Obv. final scenes are incredible but i really like the scene near the start where Bruno is playing the accordion to a bunch of kids in the street, funny and touching and v. human.

My library just got Cobra Verde and the Kinski-Herzog documentary. Which should I watch first?

#2

Thanks!

don't miss cobra verde, though

White Diamond wasn't his best but it was definitely very enjoyable.

Anyone seen Cave of Forgotten Dreams? I thought it was kinda cool in a "if I saw this in geography/biology/whatever class this would be awesome" way, but it's not up to snuff compared to some of his other docs, I thought. Maybe it was better in 3D, but I found the staring at the paintings, as awesome as they are, to get a little wearing after a while. I guess there's only so much painting to be shown and you gotta fill up the 2 hrs somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4f9HNknKTU

Ah yes, but what do YOU think?

Haven't seen it yet, I don't think it's out here.

it's incredible I saw it in 3D

Wish I could find a copy of the theme from Woodcutter Steiner

hoping this shows up in Denver -- the nature & science museum has a 3d imax theater thing.

AMAZING in 3D

Used to dramatic effect in the caves, and also in the scenic shots, with like little bugs flying at you and stuff. Amazing. Does anyone know anything about the music? Ernst Reijseger?

Here's Herzog talking about him and his feet (It's string heavy, but I really liked the vocal stuff a lot). Now I want to read Clan of the Cave Bear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-RwfLyJsPY

(please note that I am talking about Cave of Forgotten Dreams -- not Herzog himself in 3D)

Saw CoDF on Friday night (introduced by Herzog himself). Compelling and rather profound. Oddball group of archeologists/anthropologists being led by their own Stendahl Syndrome.

3D viewing is mandatory.

>Ernst Reijseger

has done the music for a few of his films -- cellist with expanded technique, partial to crazy drones, but the vocals you're responding to are in collaboration with the Sardinian Choir (Tenore & Concordu de Orosei). They sing traditional Sardinian choral works while he improvises on top.

http://www.amazon.com/Requiem-Dying-Planet-Ernst-Reijseger/dp/B000GB7DTE

^^ fantastic CD of two Herzog soundtracks with them + Senegalese vocal soloist. 'Libera me, Domine' in particular.

http://www.discogs.com/Tenore-E-Cuncordu-De-Orosei-Voches-De-Sardinna/release/1865816

& this is a CD with the Choir singing the traditionals just by themselves, if you like ancient overtone-rich choral music

Oooh! Thank you so much -- I'll look into both.

I found the Reijseger too much in COFD but loved loved loved it in My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done?

I listened to Reijseger all day yesterday on grooveshark, loved it. Played the trailer for my students today, they found it 60% enjoyable, 40% boring (I could tell)

Still, they seemed interested. I've done my duty.

I saw Cave of Forgotten Dreams last night with the wife. It had some of the usual Herzog off-kilter narrative, which featured some albino crocodiles that had no connection to the cave, and it did seem a bit padded out to fill the requisite 2 hrs for a theatrical film, but damn those cave paintings and the cave itself were of brilliant superstar-quality! The 3-D helped me to understand the art, because cave walls are so undulating they greatly affect how they were painted and how you view the paintings.

The music was pretty cool most of the time, but I thought it was kind of lol when Herzog solemnly announces we shall all stop and listen to the awesome silence of the cave, and then within 20 seconds or so the music soundtrack cuts in over the silence, because audiences just don't really want to listen to awesome silence for more than 20 seconds.

Heart of Glass should have gotten at least one vote. that movie is sublime.

I thought it was wise to only make people listen to the awesome silence for 20 seconds! Leave the party while you're still having fun, etc.

Heart of Glass should get a vote for the soundtrack alone!

The heartbeat sound annoyed me.

loved the crocodile coda

this was great, even in 2D (missed the 3D showing arrrghhh)

cave sniffer!

mutant albinos.

loved this, of course. no 3d showing here. is it more expensive to show or something? idgi

seeing those cave paintings left me speechless for most of the rest of the day and when I started talking, all I could talk about was the film. so much closer to modern art / impressionism / surrealism than most of anything that's happened since. the scale of time, not just how old they are but the fact they were painted over a span of 5000 years, nearly twice as long as of what we're used to calling history etc

I also found the music a bit too intrusively busy in parts. I loved the expository and the interviews, but still hope the DVD comes with a feature that basically lifts everything out and gives you a good 20-40 minutes of just the paintings. you need more than 10 consecutive minutes of staring at them to even come to grips.

& loved the ending of course but was didn't even need to doubt this article would be online to google before I even got home

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/browbeat/archive/tags/mutant+albino+crocodiles/default.aspx

was didn't even like needta y'know