uh there is like zero mention of any feast in that synopsis
― scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
yo guys exciting news I just got off the phone with a publicist, turns out joanna n. got a thousand hugs from ten thousand lightning bugs, spread the news
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
The best way to approach these things, kshingway, is to expect artists to shit on you.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this thread was better when it was just kshighway threatening to take Y's to old folks home and forcing people on their deathbeds to listen to it.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
max: appreciated
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
"somewhere pleasant and happy" = "the feast in the east"
― max, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not an actual feast? :(
― scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
thinking of salo atm
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Where are the sloppy seconds?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
sigh
― max, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this thread was better when it was just kshighway threatening to take Y's to old folks home and forcing people on their deathbeds to listen to it
Oh so he joined a death panel, eh.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
The feast is to the east? What about the vessel with the pestle?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i like the idea of Ys being on the soundsystem on death row
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
also "words that rhyme" is not the same as "clever wordplay"
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the term "wordplay" should never have been allowed outside the confines of the academy tbh
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images.clipartof.com/small/12106-Clay-Sculpture-Of-Two-Dogs-Howling-Clipart-Picture.jpg
^ max and kshighway
― scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, u have to keep an eye on it or itll run out in front of trafficxp
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
http://impressive.net/people/gerald/2007/04/11/10-23-25-sm.jpg
― won't you be my GAPDY / come and make it rain down on NME (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Chased by a bear. x-post
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
can I just, as a public service to kshighway, suggest listening to Owen Pallett / Final Fantasy, if he has not already? depending on what precisely you like about Ys, you might really enjoy his new one. thank you for your attention.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ should've someone expressed this via a funny jpg
― scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
(somehow)
http://www.searchviews.com/wp-content/themes/clean-copy-full-3-column-1/images/the_more_you_know2.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Is that thing under the fence supposed to be a bear? It looks like some sort of badger.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyBn8kGCsg8
― velko, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
my main problem with Ys, by the way, is that a lot of the arrangement seemed really ornamental and distant (as opposed to integral and necessary), which I think is why so many people prefer hearing small-group live recordings -- it'd probably have been a better record if she'd recorded it that way.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:48 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
and the little white dovemade with love, made with love:made with glue, and a glove, and some pliers
― schlump, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
nabisco: Thanks for the Pallett recommendation! (I really love your P4k review of it too.) I just went to Amazon Mp3 and bought it, and I'm looking forward to listening to it later.
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Saw her once a couple of years ago at the Royal Albert Hall, Roy Harper was the support act and he did all 4 (long) songs from Stormcock. JN later on referred to it as one of her favourite albums, and suddenly Ys made a lot more sense.
― Joe Pass Filter (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i think she is the least jordan-friendly artist maybe ever
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, she said you're a douche
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Have One On Me Unless You're That A-hole Jordan
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i told her to stfu that your a nice guy btw
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
thx bro
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Douche is the least rhymable word in the english language I think, she would not have used that word.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
jordan's a douche, like lyndon larouche
― scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
works 4 me tbh
that mr. que is such a douche/he should learn how to fermez his bouche
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
jordan i heard tony allen is guesting on the new one
― max, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, you all know this is a regular horse of mine, but: that dove bit is at best a play on two already similar senses of the phrase "made with," no?
The reason this is a regular horse of mine is that I would really hate it if we reached some point where using any kind of basic poetic or rhetorical technique in your lyrics -- even a really simple and straightforward one like that -- suddenly became an occasion for "oo, aren't you clever" and "how pretentious / 'twee' is that," etc., because I'm pretty sure we don't collectively want lyricists to feel like they should speak with unadorned, monosyllabic directness to avoid seeming too uppity about it.
I realize Newsom is not a great person to ride this particular horse for, because yes, she really pushes and foregrounds the use of poetic language and very planned/crafted phrasing. But, you know, still. It's not like she's exactly symptomatic of a giant glut of that sort of thing, right?
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Spelunking rhymes with clunking.
― Joe Pass Filter (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
quoted re: the suggestion (i think - couldn't actually tell which side plaxico was coming down on) that she was just long words and rhymes, you know - was just pulling some example of a technique. i maybe don't belong here because if i've got a horse it's selective quoting to prove or disprove quality of a lyricist; i think just about anyone's going to write something which fits one of the profiles of basic or pretentious lyricism (be it 'be my, be my baby, be my little baby' or 'i don't believe in an interventionist god' or whatever). maybe this precludes lyrical discussion altogether.
― schlump, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I would really hate it if we reached some point where using any kind of basic poetic or rhetorical technique in your lyrics -- even a really simple and straightforward one like that -- suddenly became an occasion for "oo, aren't you clever" and "how pretentious / 'twee' is that," etc.
nabisco I don't know how to break this to you
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
this is why we cant have nice things
― max, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
that dove bit is at best a play on two already similar senses of the phrase "made with," no?
from erik davis profile in arthur:The easy rhyme of dove and love reflects the hackneyed ease of the cliché, which she then promptly takes apart. The word glove is a splice of glue and love, held together, as it were, with pliers and glue. This wordplay is not just surface but sense: it reflects the provisional and patched-together quality that exists beneath our idealizations of love, as well as what Newsom calls the “the Frankenstein phenomenon” that emerges when that love actually creates a living being.
― schlump, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
last part of that quoted through laziness rather than to impress the romantic mysticism of her words btw
― schlump, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, my fault, schlump, I thought you meant it the other way!
yeah J0hn, I know the horse I'm riding is a little bit dead, but still -- bummer that it's so much easier to go "LOL what are you trying," as if the attempt is a bad thing in itself, than to take a stand on how it's working
xpost - haha I took issue with various things about that Davis piece at the time
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks god my detailed analysis of "emily" has been lost to the sands of the sandbox
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
bummer that it's so much easier to go "LOL what are you trying," as if the attempt is a bad thing in itself, than to take a stand on how it's working
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvFvPKPqCRg
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
dont really like that erik davis bit :(
― max, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link