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tell us all you know, cz.

jed_, Monday, 25 January 2010 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

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James Mitchell, Monday, 25 January 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Where the heck are the new MacBook Pros? I mean, my current laptop is fine (and has 100 days of AppleCare left) but I've been shuffling my feet around kind of hoping for something new for a couple weeks now.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

me to. months. I don't always wait, I'm pretty good at jumping in and buying something, but when there's been this many reports and it's clear from the technology that an update is coming any day... I also think it's become an unhealthy obsession, a way to focus on something other then what really matters. Every day it's engadget, daring fireball, tuaw, macrumors etc. I just want to be able to do work while sitting in the living room and maybe do some laptop DJing.

dan selzer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

dan i love your existential technology dilemmas

shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

what's the preferred laptop DJ/VJ'ing software for mac?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I do the same thing, and fell into the rabbit hole of macrumors' forums. They're getting thousands of posts, all of them completely clueless. I ended up registering for a throwaway account to bitch out a couple people who were propagating idiocy about AppleCare.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

traktor

shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

cutty-this started in high school. "I'll start writing music soon as I get a sampler!"

laptop dj'ing depends on the style, like what sort of hardware, if hardware. But generally it's Serato vs. Traktor. I was really into the idea of Serato Itch, which is the Serato for use with dedicated hardware controllers and interfaces, but I don't think they've been very good yet. Last year before I embarked on a season of wedding dj'ing I did a lot of research and the idea of bringing a laptop and a Vestax VCI-300 to an event was appealing, but I read too many reports of hardware issues, and the one floor model at the local guitar center was busted in the same way. If Pioneer or Rane ever made something like the VCI-300, or if Vestax stepped up their game (as they're usually pretty dependable), I'd be into that. I have two CDJ-400s which can natively control Traktor, meaning you don't even need the audio CD, so that could be fun, but for most mobile events (not something I do very often anyway), I'll just stick with the 400's USB sticks.

I thought about applying for a job to engadget or someone like that but in the end, I really don't know enough or care enough about the back-end details of the technologies, just the practical side.

dan selzer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

new macbook pros coming real soon now - deffo in march.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

just in time for my birthday.

dan selzer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

mh-so you think apple care is a good idea? It makes sense for laptops, I've heard of too many issues. I've just never had it, I've always had desktops and have never had any problems that I didn't cause or couldn't fix. I had a Mac Plus from 89/90 or so for a few years, got a beige G3 tower in 97 after college, had that until I got the first G5 in 2003, which lasted me until 2008 when I got a Mac Pro. Never really spelled that out, but looks like I'm getting a solid 5 years out of my macs.

dan selzer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

ive never had an apple product where i didnt end up using applecare, so its automatic for me. they just replaced my iphone for free a couple weeks ago. and im gonna send this laptop in cuz the plastic is cracking on the sides

max, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

tho i couldnt use it with my last laptop cause i dropped it :(

max, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i think you have been exceptionally lucky, dan

shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Get the Applecare. Even on iMacs its only $130-ish. Wish I'd gotten it when my HD died.

Nhex, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Certainly. I'm not sure about desktops since I haven't run the numbers, but I just had the logic board die on my current MBP and it still has 100 days or so of AppleCare left. I had it dropped off at the store at noon, and they somehow had the replacement part in stock and it was repaired by 9PM for me to pick up the next day.

I've heard variations in service, but for me, it's always been as easy as saying "this is failing, I have done these three actions, and it's definitely dead." The guy at the genius bar usually doesn't even flinch and just gives me an estimate of when they'll have it done. I swear I have had laptops in three times but can only think of the last two, with a dead hard drive and the one this week.

There's a lot of gnashing of teeth among the crazies about how you have to buy AppleCare immediately, or you need to buy it from the Apple Store since others are unscrupulous, but it's all bullshit. I usually am lazy and buy it as the first year is about to run out. I recently figured out that buying off ebay from someone with good feedback is a good idea since Apple has resellers of AppleCare and the markup is huuuge. Just got iPhone AppleCare off ebay for like $35, and I think it retails for $70. I was able to register it online with no issues.

With desktops, I think you have less of a problem with failing components because they're not being moved around, have more heat flow, and so on. Laptop components are smaller, subject to more abuse, and more expensive. That said, with iMacs and Mac Minis they're using a handful of laptop-style components, so it's more of a level field.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Case in point, it looks like iMac AppleCare policies are selling for around $80 on ebay.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Nhex, it's a pain in the ass to pop open an iMac but there are guides:
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Browse/iMac

Hard drives are reasonably inexpensive, and you can probably end up with a larger drive than you started with. It might just take a lot of patience, a careful hand, and a cheap tool set.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

am I lucky, Cutty, or just such a Mac PRO that my computers are awesome?

I'll tell you one thing and open a can of worms. I NEVER turn my computer off. I rarely did in the past but twice I went away on vacation during the summer, shut off my computer and came back to a failed hard-drive. In one case I just replaced it, in another it ended up being fucked directories or whatnot, so I pulled all the data off, reformated and kept on using it. My theory was that it was so extraordinarily hot that something went screwy with the drives, or when spinning back up after a while directories got screwed or something. I don't know, all I know is now I even leave the computer on when I'm away for a week and haven't had any problems since.

The one other time since was when my computer froze and I got impatient and I force restarted and had a similar situation with the start-up disk not working, but by this time I had a good back-up system going so I was able to wipe the drive, restore from the night before's clone and was up and running in minutes.

I'm going SSD with my macbook.

dan selzer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

If they don't release a new MBP soon, I might do the SSD-as-boot-drive trick that some people are doing, if mine isn't too old to do it. I guess there are ExpressCard SSD drives, and if your MBP is of the right vintage you can set it as the boot drive.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll echo Dan's experience in that I've always pretty well gotten a solid five years out of each Mac I've had -- hell, even the one Mac clone! But getting AppleCare is simply key for me too -- I'd always much rather have it than not.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

We figure we get ave of 6 years out of our company desktops. The old grey 450s and everything since the metal G5s have been awesome long life. Quicksilvers and MDDs in between not so much

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

My 2002 MDD dual 867 is still doing just fine. Runs Tiger. Only thing I've had to replace is the dvd drive.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 February 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I forgot to get applecare and my warranty expired last month ;_;

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Friday, 26 February 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the geniuses might give you a deal on the length of the applecare MINUS how long you've already had it.

shaane, Friday, 26 February 2010 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link

no official apple store where I live. I'm only a month out. applecare for my mbp costs $350 from the apple store. wtf

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Friday, 26 February 2010 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

It's $300 from LA Computer Company, still a big chunk though. But since you're using a portable does that make it more worth getting?

Re: iMac HD replacement above, I was happy to take it to a local service place, buy an upgraded HD from newegg and have them take care of it - no way I'm removing the glass with suction cups and hoping dust doesn't get in and all that, ain't got the courage!

Worse yet the machine was only 2-3 months out of warranty. Still, before finding the local place I took the iMac to my local Apple store to get quoted a ridiculous figure, and on top of that it would take weeks to get back. The local shop got back to me in 3 days and cost about half as much, inc. my HD purchase. And most of the shops in the area were comparing themselves vs. the inflated Apple service price, too - I got lucky.

Nhex, Friday, 26 February 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Now there's more chatter about an external trackpad from apple or something similar. Am I the only person who despises trackpads? Who wishes the macbooks still came with trackballs? I just hate using them, for basic interface stuff an especially more intense stuff. Photoshop retouching, bezier curves, illustrator pen, etc. I'm not a huge fan of Wacom styli and I know most people would say that's what "pros" use for art. I'm perfectly fine with my trackball, or a mouse. I just can't imagine doing any of that kind of work on a trackpad.

dan selzer, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I hate trackpads too. Always hook up a mouse if possible. Totally ok with touchscreens and styluses, though.

Nhex, Friday, 26 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone order an iPad today?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 12 March 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, got the cheapest one. This is pretty much going to be a couch computer for playing games, reading eBooks, and controlling my TV/Home media.

Jeff, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Fools rush in. Never buy a 1st gen apple product, guys.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

It'll be cheaper at Christmas, I'm thinking.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

But hey, if you want to drop a few bills to be a beta tester, no one can stop you.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

The first generation iPhone was awesome. I don't regret buying it in the least. Sure the second generation iPad will be better, but I'll just get it too.

Jeff, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Fortunately, this isn't the Air, or some such engineering challenge that's going to have lots of physical problems. It's a big giant iPod touch, flash memory, no moving parts... it's not going to blow up or anything.

I would expect major battery life issues, though, at least at first.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Not incidentally, I do very much love my iPod Touch. Podcasts and video games on the morning train, and best of all, you can't call me on it. Any device that allows people to bother me without my consent is never going to be as good as one that does not.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, the hassle of dealing with AT&T is conspicuously missing. No craptastic 3g coverage, no absurdly large monthly bills. In my perfect world, telephones are no longer a modern necessity. I resent the shit out of having to pay a monthly bill for a device that I don't want to use.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

then don't

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

You can't not have a phone.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Sure you can, just set up a skype-like thing that has voicemail if you're so adamant that you don't want people to call you. Then when you're in wifi range, you return any calls you really feel like returning.

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting...

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

google voice not skype-like thing

shite new answers (cutty), Friday, 12 March 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Ok I am dying for the Nexus One to get Verizon on board, and for my AT&T contract to expire. I believe both things will fortuitously happen simultaneously, in about three or four months.

kenan, Friday, 12 March 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Google Voice doesn't have a native iphone app unless you're jailbroken, right? I've used it, but you end up having to have it call your number to bridge to numbers you're calling.

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I've done this to create a dial-a-joke line I don't have to pay for:

1. create free gizmo5 account
2. tie the gizmo5 number to a free ipkall number

Now you can get free inbound calls, so long as you have a voip app such as fring running.
You can then tie this inbound # to a google voice account to get outbound calls.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I was going to create a gizmo5 account a while ago but signups are suspended post Google-buyout.

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

what i'm saying is that if, in a perfect world, kenan doesn't want a phone, people calling his google voice number would leave a voicemail that arrives in his inbox that he can reply to any way he wishes

shite new answers (cutty), Friday, 12 March 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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