Sonic Youth new album "Rather Ripped"

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on first listen I find in better then Sonic Nurse, more of a straight up rock album to me. these songs should sound good at Lollapalooza

― J. Lamphere (WatchMeJumpStart), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, "Do You Believe In Rapture" is one of the prettiest songs they've ever done!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, holy shit.

It's like they knew exactly what kind of thing I'd been wanting to hear lately... Springtime is here!

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

prettiest songs since a thousand leaves

― mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like the rockiest version of "experimental jet set" or the improved version of "psychic hearts"
it's a good thing they returned to the 3:00 minutes per song formula, their best record in years.

― bob the rob, Friday, 14 April 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

no where near as good as experimental jet set. parts of it remind me of dirty, but with the clean chiminess of their more recent stuff

― mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG DROOL

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"stunning return to form"?

― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Suedey's and Maria's thoughts seconded.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

an entire song (turquoise boy) is based on thurston's performance of "church boy, alter basement" on the hurricane floyd cd, from around 98 or so. a few songs (rain on tin, new hampshire, and dripping dream(?)) from the last two albums used melodic bits from it as well, although not as completely

― mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

oh wow, that's sounds awesome. I always noticed the similarity between "Church Boy" and "Rain On Tin" and "New Hampshire" (not so much "Dripping Dream," I'll have to listen for that).

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

It's great, and I like it a whole lot, but I don't think it's better than Murray Street, in terms of late period SY. It's better than Sonic Nurse, but not by a huge margin or anything. It's not a "return to form" by any stretch - it's still more or less the same thing they've been doing since 2002, but without the open ended instrumental parts. It's pretty much another really good Sonic Youth album. It's what they do.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think it sounds like Dirty at all - I'm not sure where people are getting that from. Experimental Jet Set isn't a bad touchstone, since some of these songs seem kinda "Sweet Shine"-ish. The album sometimes has that "rainy summer day" thing going on, which is rather Experimental Jet Set, at least to me.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it exceeds both murray street and nurse. i thought murray street was very boring, aside from having a nice cover. i'm not so sure about dripping dream containing bits from the thurston jam though

― mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

but without the open ended instrumental parts

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― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

re: dirty, track 2 (incinerate) recalls chapel hill right before the hokey gung ho riff enters. very insignificant similarity though

― mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, "Pink Steam" is seven minutes, and the vocals don't kick in until after five minutes. There's that.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

its solid. im happy. the end.

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI?

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

it's still more or less the same thing they've been doing since 2002, but without the open ended instrumental parts. It's pretty much another really good Sonic Youth album.

can't see these two statements co-existing, but i'll wait till i hear it. been excited about this album for a while, and the good word has me psyched.

i really have to hear that "church boy" song BTW. i too had always wondered why "rain on tin" and "new hampshire" sounded so similar in spots.

― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, the thing that is holding over from the last two albums is the style of melody and harmony, and the clean guitar tones. The last three albums really sound like they are deliberately writing music for the summer, maybe because that's when they do the most touring.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah there's something comforting about the Coco era of the last few albums, knowing that every 2 years, they're going to release an album in time for a summer tour.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The Sonic Youth website has a different version of the cover art than the one posted above. I'm not sure how to post the image, but the website is
http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/rippedpop.html

― twoheadedboy, Friday, 14 April 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/images/rippedweb.jpg

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

that is WORSE than the one above

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha that looks like a Rancid cover!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

did sonic youth sign to epitaph?

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe this is another one of their jokes?

― twoheadedboy, Friday, 14 April 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

interesting, that same image was on flyers being handed out after the rhys chatham gig at SXSW. yeah, i like the other cover better.

― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

You people are mad. This one is clearly a more iconic (and better) cover.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the other cover suits the music and the band much better. This thing looks like a flyer, the other looks like an album cover.

I really like how "Or" ends with a series of lines that sound like interview questions being directed at the band, concluding with "what comes first, the music or the words?"

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The amount of love for recent Sonic Youth coexisting with the amount of disdain for recent R.E.M. is interesting to me.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The harmony of the guitar and bass on the 'Incinerate' riff is great

― def zep (calstars), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't imagine why you'd be confused about this, Tim. Sonic Youth haven't recorded a bunch of MOR pop ballads aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio, but that's been R.E.M.'s specialty since Up. People are icked out by the AAA thing, and though I will defend a lot of R.E.M.'s post-Berry output, I can't blame them. If I didn't already really like R.E.M., I'd be writing that stuff off too.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I thought ILM loved MOR pop ballads.

"aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio"

Come on Matthew, do you really think they're "aiming" at this? I think they're just doing what they want.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

geeta OTM. Please tell me they're not using this cover (just because, yes, it seems so wrong for their sound).

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Tim, let me put it another way - Sonic Youth are still making music that seems cool, whereas R.E.M. seem to be going out of their way to make the least cool music that they possibly can.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, that looks like the opening credit sequence in David Cronenberg's Spider as depicted by a Hellcat records graphic artist.

― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?

http://www.murmurs.com/talk/attachment.php?attachmentid=44582&stc=1

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: If they write a song as good as "I Wanted to Be Wrong" or "Aftermath," I'd like to be notified of that as well.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sort of fascinated by the lyrics to "Or." The verses seem totally unrelated aside from the "or" question at the end, but they are both pretty evocative. There's some really odd semi-pervy schoolgirl imagery in that first verse...

In your mouth, a wad of cash
Moist roll of hundreds
Fingers through your hair
Silver quarters drop
To your pleated skirt
Cannisters of whipped cream
In your sweater pockets
A look of space and total life
Ready....or......not

The plan is to go to DC and hang out
Go see girls rock
How long is the tour?
What time you guys playin'?
Where you going next?
What comes first?
The music...or...the words?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to tim: is that the riddler?

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking as cool as this will someone let me know?

When someone from Sonic Youth goes onstage looking like that, I'll leave.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the Sister-like guitar part in "Reena" that starts 2mins into the song - goosebumps...

― willem -- (willem), Saturday, 15 April 2006 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

this record makes me happy. also, why are there some serious VU moments on here?

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 15 April 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a guitar part in "...Rapture" that is very late period Velvet Underground. I'm really happy about that, for some reason.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

this record presents the best Kim Gordon's songs in years.
she rules this one.

― observer server, Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

hey,it's been more than 2 hours since the last post!
a new record..
does it mean u dont have nothing to say anymore?
no way.

― xonics, Saturday, 15 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

some of us aren't on the Oink pre-release leak gravy train.

― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

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