― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Why not accept a band's flaws as more reasons to hug them harder?
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
This is the point were a less-jaded me would incredulously type "You're kidding, right?"
Suffice to say that I'm not ever going to agree with you, ever.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
That's cool, man. However, you're wrong: we both love New Order. After a few beers and a couple of listens to "Brotherhood" and "Technique," we can discuss my theory.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Detroit 89, soundboard, in it's entirety
enjoy
― biznotic, Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Listen to the Felix Da Housecat mix of Here To Stay for what Get Ready could have been.
New Order are so much more than ageing rockers and I hope the new album (which I'll buy the day it comes out) proves it.
Technique is fantastic.
― wtin, Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― earlnash, Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
shoot speed kill light (from exterminator) vs rock the shack:
the former is a razor-edged sprawl of scuzzy rock goodness, the latter is a dumb joke. the fact that primal scream made an ace song with barney and new order made a pish one with bobby suggests to me that NO are at fault here, not mr G.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link
That said, I feel for you, Fiendish, even if I don't agree with you. If it turns out the new one disappoints me, I still hope you like it.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 20 January 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link
this needs remastering.
― pisces, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
They all do!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 10:58 (sixteen years ago) link
they sound ok to me
― akm, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link
just turn it up, fool
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link
That's how I noticed they needed remastering.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, I retract all the silly things I said upthread.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link
it could do with a 5.1 while we're at it.
-- sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 July 2007
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-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007
me too.
― pisces, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link
we've entered a time warp again, through a time warp
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Lurve this bit by N. It's worth requoting in full:
The whole point of it for me is that it's a whole album. I adore the sweep of it. It's all of a piece. With grinning confidence it introduces itself in the hi-hats of the glorious 'this is where we all are' Fine Time, sets the emotional 'this is where we've come from' note with All The Way and then spins through five perfect whirls of sun-bleached pop, feet never hitting the floor. Is Vanishing Point a shining pinnacle or the comedown? Depends on whether I'm dancing, maybe. Either way, it's the brilliant heart of the album. Then Dream Attack comes along to shoot you through the heart again, an epilogue, the most beautiful of all mornings after.
It remains my favorite NO album by some distance, and the one that convinced me of their greatness. However, it's fascinating that Gill remarked on the "strong synergy between all the band members" yet earlnash notes that they "sound even less like a band playing together and more of songs put together via studio production." I say it's a bit of both, no? Anyway, Republic is the one that sounds like Bernard and Stephen Hague programming synths with the odd Hooky bassline here and there.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
It's always sounded fine to me.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link
"Guilty Partner" is criminally great.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 26 July 2007 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Have you come around on "All The Way"???
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 26 July 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link
that was the track that instantly gripped me all those years ago.
I was trying to remember if my old rant about this album was upthread and it was. Good.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link
this is the best. ever. 'all the way' is my coming out song.
― matt p (Matt P), Saturday, 24 January 2009 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Listened to the reissue a few times through a week or so ago. Totally great album, possibly my fave New Order.
― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link
yeahhh
― matt p (Matt P), Saturday, 24 January 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to this for the first time. Love all their other albums so far. This and Republic are the last of the NO albums I've yet to hear.
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
So glad I waited for the reissues to hear them for the first time. This shit sounds amazing! I read that the original CD pressings sounded like crap.
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link
So far so good! Currently on track five, "Guilty Pleasure". What I love about NO (and what NO veterans will think, "no shit," is that every album has a distinct sound - but to pull all these distinct-sounding records off with resounding success is rare, imo.
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, how many bands can/have pulled this off? The Beatles, Radiohead?
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Barneywaves.
― Wheal Dream, Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I love Technique. It's my favorite album of all time. OF ALL TIME! I can still remember unwrapping the cellophone on the cassette the day it was released. The opening of Fine Time made my heart race and I was on cloud 9 for months after just letting the tape flip over and over in the car.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
the best pop album ever made. it's as simple as that.― piscesboy, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:17 (7 years ago)
I concur with me. nothing's ever even come close. i kinda feel like England fans waiting for a team that will take them to victory like in 66. i've pretty much accepted it won't happen and i'm okay with that.
― piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean this was a *number 1 album* in the UK and they advertised it with this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpCr8wh6zE
man alive...
― piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
the original cd pressings don't sound like crap, except for love life which had pre-emphasis on it and so sounded bad if played on a player that doesn't deal with that (which would be most players now). I haven't listened to the official remasters because I still can't figure out how to tell if you have a good batch or bad batch (the first issues of the REMASTERS were apparently awful, and they have allegedly fixed those but I don't know anyone who has found the fixed ones). anyway easier to get all of this stuff (single wise) off the internet now, the fan-led remaster project was better.
― akm, Sunday, 31 October 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
copyright date on the spine says Rhino 2009. most of the corrected remasters don't have the Deluxe slipcase overlay.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 31 October 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
did they correct the first CD in the package or was it just the second disc that had the flaws and needed correcting? i always thought the first disc sounded amazing on that first issue. the packaging was a bit rubbish though.
― piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
They speak!
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
That wasn't an advert, that was played on Tony Wilson's "The other side of midnight" TV show, if I recall correctly.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link