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I agree about the thick client having the same problem as HTML5 (though they're both thick clients).

I agree - but I don't think they do distinguish (at least properly); currently, there are "web applications" and "non-web applications". The former run in a browser and the latter don't. The former are developed using one set of technologies and the latter a different set. I think this is a bad way of defining things. For me, there are (ideally):

- Applications that have whatever kind of GUI you want that access stuff over a network, possibly from a web server, but probably from something better (supporting things like publishing of events to clients, like HTML 5 seems to suggest a web server would need to)

- Applications that have whatever kind of GUI you want that don't access stuff over a network

Both would be built the same way. Accessing services over a network is just a case of making use of an appropriate library.

Pretty much, that just means you have "applications".

Keith, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

It is a point though, that some of the HTML 5 stuff would seem to suggest some significant changes needing made to servers as well as clients.

Keith, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

won't thick clients just tend towards becoming Word (say) but where all documents are saved on an external server?

and what about the Canvas additions to html? (which treat the browser window as a drawable object, for svg or whatever). which is tending towards X11 or something (but an X11 that is operating system neutral, albeit probably browser specific)

(oh, and btw, php has an include_once(). which may or may not work on windows.)

koogs, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think that's about the size of it... Though the server would also deliver the executable (word) code, to control updates.

The canvas stuff isn't quite a set of widgets, though... Unless you want to write your own, drawing them with svg.

Didn't know about the include_once() thing. Sorry, I still think it's all a bit shit, PHP.

In addition, the HTML5/Javascript thing has an issue in that you might not want to give your source code away, which you pretty much have to is it's just text included in a web page.

Keith, Saturday, 14 July 2007 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://tnx.nl/php.jpg

Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link


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