does someone want to explain the disproportionate response to this result here?
i mean, i thought era was sort of red herring when it came to determinant factors or is it just that so much weight is put on victories?
it seems to me that of all the pitchers mentioned up there, santana seems to be the only one w/ demonstrable edge over colon in a statistical category and that would be for era & k. there seems to be very little that separates everyone when you look at the raw numbers for bb, k and tacos.
― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Saturday, 12 November 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
For some reason I completely forgot that those guys had more wins than Roy. But Roy is the only one with consecutive 20-win seasons, so that should count for something, right?
― boldbury (boldbury), Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I think 1. Santana and 2. Rivera would have been a pretty reasonable result, and I wouldn't have minded 3. Nathan 4. Buerhle either.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 November 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
the Fed Reserve nominee obsesses on inherited runners
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 12 November 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Ortiz is (deservedly) getting lots of attention for maybe the best old-guy hitter's season ever. I checked a bunch of obvious names, and Colon might be having one of the three best 43-year-old-starter years ever (mostly old-school stats here).
Colon: 14-7, 3.14, 177.2 IP, 1.199 WHIP, 3.63 K/BBRyan: 13-9, 3.44, 204 IP, 1.034 WHIP, 3.14 K/BBNiekro: 17-4, 3.61, 234.1 IP, 1.272 WHIP, 1.97 K/BB
Only checked post-war pitchers: also Clemens (very good, but only 115 IP), Johnson, Spahn, Moyer. May have forgotten someone.
― clemenza, Thursday, 22 September 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link
he's also 15th among NL pitchers in WAR, ahead of jake arrieta
― mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link
Bartolo Colón is making his Twins debut Tuesday at 8 ET on ESPN against the Yankees. It'll be Colón's first career appearance at Target Field and if he allows a home run, he'll be making history. According to Elias, only Jamie Moyer (43) has allowed a home run at more ballparks than Colón (42) in MLB history.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
all the way
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/08/04/colon-goes-distance-minnesota-beats-texas-8-4/104308516/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 5 August 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
You are cordially invited to an evening with Big Sexy! https://t.co/2KS4ruHUGw pic.twitter.com/xi0HL8GKU9— Minnesota Twins (@Twins) September 8, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
We interrupt our train of no-hitter tweets to show you that Bartolo Colon beat Dee Gordon to 1st in a footrace. pic.twitter.com/MewCi5EB12— MLB (@MLB) April 22, 2018
― Andy K, Sunday, 22 April 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link
Impressive!
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
ben: Sam Miller has a new piece about Bartolo Colon making the HOF. Fun piece (as usual), but zero chance of happening, right?
Jay Jaffe: Even if we assume Jack Morris’ election lowered the performance bar enough to make Colon’s candidacy credible — and here I should point out that Bart is 139th to Jack’s 163rd in JAWS ranking — the PED suspension is a huge stumbling block. If it’s gonna keep A-Rod, Palmeiro and Manny out, it’s gonna keep him out as well.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
Bartolo Colon definitely is in the hall of very good. His career arc is fairly unique losing those five seasons in his early 30s then figuring it out and having this second act of his career.
Big Daddy is one pitcher that had a somewhat similar career arc with losing a few years to injury. Reuschel was maybe even at his best later on in his career, although without quite the crazy innings pitched numbers of his early seasons.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/reuscri01.shtml
― earlnash, Friday, 27 July 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link
Passed Dennis Martinez tonight for wins (246) by a Latin American pitcher. I remember that was a semi-big deal up here when Martinez passed Marichal, even though he was no longer with the Expos.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link
Sam Miller asks some tailored HOF questions
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24191231/bartolo-colon-hall-famer-maybe-not-crazy
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 August 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
makin' some dough in a RIBS cap
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/9/26/17906056/bartolo-colon-kingsford-commercial-good-job-brand-gooooood-job-who-wants-a-brand-biscuit
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
RIBS
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
Bartolo Colon announced on Instagram today that he is releasing a memoir entitled "BIG SEXY." More details here:https://t.co/w0If3roQSp pic.twitter.com/FiUWCDEVq7— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) October 9, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJ3a0T_Rug
― omar little, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link