Dez had long hair before Die Kreuzen had a record out.
― gygax!, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― panico (panico), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
greg ginn in a peach izod, tight cord shorts and argyle socks... way more punk than leather and a mohawk. cf, justin pearson in the last 10 years... esp. justin and gabe diving into a pit wearing nothing but leopard thongs....
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YaYaYaYaY!
O_o
― gygax!, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 02:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
There's no need to lament the loss of Jehu with Hot Snakes around anyway. And the new RFTC album is actually really great. Reis' first good non-HS work since Scream Dracula Scream.
― Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I wholeheartedly DIS-agree. The Hot Snakes records (esp. the last one) are so TAME in comparison to Drive Like Jehu's. To me, it's akin to comparing Kevin Shields' stint in Primal Scream to My Bloody Valentine... or why kids get all hot and bothered over The Black Heart Procession or Pinback when Three Mile Pilot played to half empty clubs on their last tour (outside of San Diego).
Not to say the Hot Snakes records are bad, just very watered down in the intensity department... which is like the big draw for me.
If I were to write the history books (and I do have plans), RFTC will be notable only for having the guitarist of Drive Like Jehu... and Jason Crane, but that's about it. (i like their first few singles but blah... Jon Spencer Syndrome).
^_^
― gygax!, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
I like RFTC. Scream is a great record. Great pop. Paint as a Fragrance, Circa Now and Hot Charity are also great. Group Sounds had one good song ("Ghost Shark") and RFTC was an abomination. But Live from Camp X-Ray is really good. I was fully prepared to hate it, but it won me over.
― Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Rick did not write one lick of music for Automatic Midnight, so naturally as a RFTC fan, you may connect better with that record.
Suicide Invoice I think suffers from dragging tempos (which was certainly not a problem with Drive Like Jehu).
For me, I like Rick's songs, singing, guitar playing a lot. A lot better than John's. So... there you go.
― gygax!, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 16:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
I also like both Three Mile Pilot and Black Heart Procession (Pinback has one or two good moments). So you hate me!
― Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Regarding the other half of the thread,Hot Snakes pound the shit out of RFTC. Must find the Jehu cd I had , which I'm sure is buried in someone elses racks. Seem to remember the guitar being in that great tradition of deliberately fucked up but in control and somehow melodic, for want of a better description.
― panico (panico), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Not really (hence the "Honorable mention" quasi-disclaimer), since Faraquet aren't nearly as intense as Jehu, but I was listening to "The Fourth Introduction" the other day and was struck by the similarities in style-- I can't think of many other bands that do the tight bludgeoning drone/riff thing as well. But the similarities definitely stop there.
― Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 16:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 17 October 2002 02:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yancey (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 October 2002 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
https://shepherdexpress.com/music/local-music/die-kreuzen-s-demos-receive-long-awaited-proper-reissue/
https://www.songpreserve.com/index.php/component/muscol/D/71-die-kreuzen/204-demos
― sleeve, Saturday, 12 September 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
That 'cover' is awesome.
https://shepherdexpress.com/downloads/50591/download/AlbumReview_DieKreuzen.jpg?cb=f697ccdd8910713400a8ec39eb9a5fb2&w=660&h=
― earlnash, Saturday, 12 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link
haha I didn't catch the Blue Note tribute at first, thanks
― sleeve, Saturday, 12 September 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link
I could just Die Cruisin.well known low rider band innit.
I used to have the skeletal wolves from the 1st lp sleeve on the wall behind me a few years ago.& i remember seeing Kim Gordon in one of their tshirts ata London SY gig in the 80s. I thought the band didn't play London before the Sir George Robey gig i was at. Maybe that was around teh time whoever is talking about up thread.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 12 September 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link
iirc pretty much all the demo songs got proper studio versions on their 1st EP and LP. I've heard some of the demos on bootlegs - not sure if any of them were actually better than the later versions? be interested if anyone thinks the demos were the superior versions, maybe if this reissue has decent sound quality they would be worth checking out again?
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 12 September 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
sadly these appear to be MP3/streaming only, but yes in general I agree - the LP versions proper totally smoke all the earlier versions, even the Cows And Beer ones. I'm just glad this exists as an historical document.
― sleeve, Saturday, 12 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link