His'n'Hers and Different Class alone are enough: classic. How they redeemed the mid-90s for me; the Pinefox's counter-argument is tempting but a classic misunderstanding of a band through discredit- by-association.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I'm sure the curse of Momus would have put Pulp somewhere between World of Twist and Denim. And Michael Jackson, his sails full of the wind of unchallenged messianic megalomania, would have made five brilliant new pop albums all produced by Cornelius.
― Momus, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex thomson, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DG, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ally, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ernest, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Within two days stevie t mentions the heartstopping 'days in the trees' by Noman and now yous mention the wonderful WORLD OF tWIST, ILILM.
― Geordie Racer, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― EdwardO, Wednesday, 25 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
"In conclusion/A meaning wasn't had/Reflecting on the situation/Of a problem/Again."
Not appearing on the "Pyramid Song" B-side anytime soon.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Omar, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
but i almost never play them anymore. somehow, its seems too reminiscent of 1995. it seems almost wrong to play them now, out of that context (speaking subjectively here). this is a shame really, because they are such a classic. i hardly play stereolab any more either.
sometimes bands seems very tied to a particular era, and its difficult to extricate them from that.
everything post-different class is slightly disappointing
― gareth, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
they were good too. regardless of barney sumner's 'we are weird' comments on jukebox jury
*OK not complete. The "She's A Rainbow" cover is best ignored and I've never, alas, heard "The Sausage".
― Tom, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Snub TV, circa 1990. World of Twist playing 'The Storm' and then being interviewed.
"We definitely see ourselves as a pop band, not rock" says the monkey boy leader. Much nodding of heads from the other band members.
I sit there and think "Yeah yeah, like you're so radical for saying that. God this indieboy pro-pop thing is starting to annoy me"
The funny thing is, looking back I'm not even sure why I thought this. Whose line did I think World of Twist were parroting? It wasn't like I was familiar with early 80s NME rhetoric. How did I get so opinionated so young? Maybe I just thought they'd nicked ideas I'd started to have about pop music and were cross that they'd made a hash of it.
Pulp: CLASSIC by the way, but I completely sympathise with pinefox's attempt to locate his problem with consensus outside the trappings of moronic snobbery. Don't understand why everyone is going on about 'Common People'. If ever there was a song that has been completely newtered through overexposure, that is it. I tend to skip it when I listen to 'Different Class' now.
What I find weird about 'This Is Hardcore' is that it contains perhaps their two finest achievements in the title track and 'The Fear', one pretty good track in 'Help the Aged', and then the rest is just treading water. Seriously, when I first put on the album and heard the opening track, I thought it was going to be the best record ever made. Then that godawful line about sharing the same initials as Jesus came on (is there anything more annoying than when he repeats it at the end of the song in case you didn't catch how clever it was the first time round?) and disillusion set in once more. *sigh*
― Nick, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
great to know I'm not the only one to still be into world of twist too - can I be a smartarse and say I've got the "blackpool tower suite" 12"?
― norman fay, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
That said, it's quite a while since I've played any of their albums.
― Robin Carmody, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
intro.
― gareth, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ally C, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― and i fantasize about english countrysides when listening to yes, too, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
(not that anyone I've ever met talks or, indeed, sings like that.)
― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
My god. I'm selling the rest of my CDs and just keeping the Pulp, any bidders?
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link
Is this a Pulp lyric? It's amazing whatever it is.
― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 06:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 27 November 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
i think.
*damn*, i'm going to have to dig it out and listen again now, just to make sure.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 November 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 November 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link
am gonna listen to "hardcore" next. haven't heard that since 1997.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 27 November 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
It didn't even come out till 1998 - this is impressive!
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 27 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
good point. i think "1997" has become shorthand for about four years of podding around when i first moved to glasgow. i can no longer differentiate between any of the memories. if it happened when i was living on kent road, my mind has it filed as 1997.
anyway. "hardcore" is disappointing. the first, title and closing tracks are great; the rest has left little impression.
but it's still "trees" i'm humming to myself as i liquidise my soup. (and no, that's not a euphemism.)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
My feelings exactly, still, except I think only the first and title songs are great and I think they're really great, like perhaps the best two songs they ever did. 'Help The Aged' is good too. The rest is meh.
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 27 November 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
"We Love Life" was a bit of a letdown, but its best tracks (the two-part "Weeds", "Birds in Your Garden", "Sunrise") rank with the band's best.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 27 November 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 27 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
:(
Our beloved friend & bass player Steve Mackey passed away this morning. Our thoughts are with his family & loved ones. Safe travels, Steve.We hope to catch up with you one day. All our love xx pic.twitter.com/pickNV56Nl— Pulp (@welovepulp) March 2, 2023
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 2 March 2023 15:15 (one year ago) link
This is garbage news. I knew Steve real well and he was the absolute best most shining positive force you could ever imagine
― lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link
I don't think I ever registered what he looked like, but loving these pictures I have been seeing of him just now.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link
i was privileged to know him too and he absolutely was. Such shite news!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
Ugh. This sucks.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link
That’s exactly it. I feel so privileged to have known the guy. Impressive CV aside he was just this magic dude. He was one of two people I gave full unconditional access to all my orchestral stems for his usage on whatever he liked. I really loved this guy. Never had lunch with him without feeling like I walked away with some lesson learned or some great advice
― lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
meant to post this here rather than the obit thread, sorry. just makes me love the guy even more.https://i.postimg.cc/ZqdhX05X/20230302-161904.jpg
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
I knew and liked him a lot in the wayback years, hadn’t seen him since he produced Galang (the odd private view non-withstanding) and I’m so devastated for his family and close friends.
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
Just rotten. What a perfect key element for that band, always an anchor but never a weight.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
Jarvis & Steve were in many ways the core duo of 90s Pulp, and he was the only member of the band on Jarvis's solo LPs, a real loss musically as well as a lovely guy.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
I made a mix of some of Steve's best work, both in Pulp and as a writer/producer/remixer. Mixcloud wouldn't let me publish (too many tracks by one artist) so here it is instead:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/79493909
0:00:00 Pulp - My Legendary Girlfriend (BBC Soundcheck)0:04:23 Pulp - Styloroc (Nites of Suburbia)0:07:28 Pulp - Acrylic Afternoons0:11:07 Pulp - His 'n' Hers0:17:20 Pulp - Street Lites0:23:07 Pulp - Party Hard0:27:03 Pulp - After You0:32:12 The Chocolate Layers - That Boy's Evil0:37:34 M.I.A. - Galang (Cavemen Remix)0:41:26 Dark Globe - Break My World (Fat Truckers & Steve Mackey Extended Mix)0:45:37 Kelis - Bossy (Cavemen Remix)0:48:57 Cornershop - Topknot (Caveman Remix ft. M.I.A.)0:52:06 Death In Vegas - Dirge (Cossack Apocalypse Mix)0:55:46 Black Box Recorder - The Facts of Life (Chocolate Layers Remix)1:01:58 Looper - Up A Tree Again (Chocolate Layers' St. John's Ambulance Remix)1:05:11 The Nu Forest - I Picked a Flower1:08:40 Marianne Faithful - Sliding Through Life on Charm (ft. Jarvis Cocker)
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 3 March 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link
Wonder why there is a screenshot of live Pulp performance in the middle of Hitchcock/Truffaut.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:49 (nine months ago) link
Saw them at Finsbury Park last night - despite the absences, they're sounding incredible. I've missed them.
― woof, Sunday, 2 July 2023 13:10 (eight months ago) link
They played A New One at the second Sheffield show, it's pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYeeFKvwJo
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:10 (eight months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/feb/11/it-was-a-dark-time-pulps-keyboardist-candida-doyle-on-being-diagnosed-with-arthritis-at-the-age-of-17
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2024 16:42 (one month ago) link
It's a curious article.
― djh, Sunday, 11 February 2024 18:47 (one month ago) link
We got North American tour dates!
Tickets for the shows will go on sale this week. Fans can sign up for Pulp’s pre-sale by joining the band’s mailing via https://WeLovePulp.info before midnight PDT on Monday, 18 March. All those who do, will be sent a link and password to use when tickets go on sale on a first come, first served basis at 10am (local time to each venue) on Tuesday, 19 March. Tickets will then go on general sale on Friday, 22 March at 10am – again all times are local to the venue. The tour dates are: Sunday, September 8 Chicago Byline Bank Aragon Ballroom Tuesday, September 10 Toronto HISTORY Friday, September 13 Brooklyn, NY Kings Theatre Monday, September 16 San Francisco Bill Graham Civic Auditorium Wednesday, September 18 Los Angeles Hollywood Palladium
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 15:17 (one week ago) link
Wow, I might have to go to that Hollywood show.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 01:44 (one week ago) link
Got tickets for Toronto! Thank you for alerting me, Ned!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:14 (one week ago) link
tickets for Toronto were sold out in like a minute, got a ticket in my basket then as it was loading it was gone
Ticketmaster can eat my unwiped shitstained asshole
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:21 (one week ago) link
Well there'll be other chances later in the week at least!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:27 (one week ago) link
Kings Theatre in Brooklyn (the NY stop on the tour) dropped Ticketmaster. Things moved slowly on their system, but was able to get good tickets, and fees lower than Ticketmaster scum would have charged.
― bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:30 (one week ago) link
That’s really nice. Paid $30 in fees on each ticket. Hope you’re lucky with the general sale Murgatroid
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:13 (one week ago) link
The seating options you selected aren't available due to the ticket quantity or filter you applied. Please try adjusting the number of tickets selected or use the seat map to search for available seats.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:07 (one week ago) link
I went on right at 10:00 with the correct presale code but couldn't even get in.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:09 (one week ago) link
Oof, sucks to hear. In contrast SF went crazy smoothly! Got a floor/GA spot, all good.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:12 (one week ago) link
So I got in after typings that out but like Murgatroid was timed out. Now they say no tickets left.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:17 (one week ago) link
Kings Theatre in Brooklyn (the NY stop on the tour) dropped Ticketmaster.
Their seat selection system stresses me out, especially on a phone. But I got mine.
― early rejecter, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:22 (one week ago) link
damn, i missed the memo about the mailing list so no artist pre-sale for me.
gotta listen to a bunch of pulp on spotify to day and hope to get that pre-sale code.
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:37 (one week ago) link
https://thescenestar.typepad.com/ss/2024/03/pulp-schedule-a-show-at-the-hollywood-palladium.html
There will be an artist presale taking place on Tuesday, March 19, at 10 a.m. Code: BRAVO.
You can also get your tickets early via a Live Nation presale on Wednesday, March 20, at 8 a.m. Code: KEY.
Spotify will also have a presale on Wednesday, March 20, at 10 a.m.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:39 (one week ago) link
Got a pair for Toronto, but only after trying nonstop for 15 minutes. Like Murgatroid I had some in my basket, went to pay, and they were suddenly gone. Was about to give up and refreshed another 10 times or so and got in, this time it worked. No rhyme or reason. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― KPH, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:45 (one week ago) link
Aw darn my ex works for live nation and I was excited to come share the code! Alas!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:40 (one week ago) link
I'd love the Spotify presale code
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:35 (one week ago) link
I don’t have a Spotify ex :/
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:37 (one week ago) link
Extra shows announced for Toronto, Brooklyn and LA, presales today at 11 am local time.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:07 (one week ago) link
got tix for kings on 9/14
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:40 (one week ago) link
got a ticket for 9/11 yeahhhhhhh
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:39 (one week ago) link