― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 31 October 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 1 November 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 1 November 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― absolutego (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Influenced By
* Sun Ra * Thelonious Monk * L. Ron Hubbard * Art Tatum * Horace Silver * Bud Powell * Bill Evans * Miles Davis * Béla Bartók * McCoy Tyner
― absolutego (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 07:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― jmeister (jmeister), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Different but worth mentioning: live set(s) he did with Lionel Hampton. Not sure when, the bootleg I have (I Ain't Mad At You) says 1994 which makes Hampton, like, 80-something. He (Hampton) is audible grunting and mumbling throughout. Anyway, it's hot.
Scientology: He was most definitely a Scientologist as were some of his collaborators - Stanley Clarke and Neville Potter at least. LRon is credited on many albums as a 'source of inspiration' or such. Which reminds me - Stan's album Journey to Love has some great Chick on it as well.
― the stainmaker (jcartledge), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~cbz17800/Dscf020311.jpg
Probably a good one, too! from around the Circle time I gather.
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
So, is this some sort of secret society also?
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
No, that's very recent. Came out in 2000. I don't think Chick had discovered Scientology yet at the time he was in Circle.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Much of Hubbard's sci-fi was workmanlike and boring. So is the Elektrik Band's album devoted to this thing. There are about eight song interludes addressed to "looking outside the porthole." As something fit for the Onion or Mad magazine, it's funny. As anything else, laughable and wretched.
Corea seems to be afflicted with a bit of the disease that one sees in some celebrity/semi-celebrity followers of Hubbardism. That is, they can't distinguish that his literary work was shit. Additional example: John Travolta, aforementioned "Battlefield Earth" which any sensible person, upon reading, would have assumed was impossible to make into a movie, even was anti-movie in its nature.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link
bought a beautiful japanese cd reish of tones for joan's bones for £3 in fopp the other day - great alb, wish he'd recorded more with this group - joe farrell, woody shaw, steve swallow, joe chambers
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
anyone hear his trio record from last year w/Christian McBride & Brian Blade? i haven't yet, but would like to check it out for Blade alone.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
don't know the kid, but this is fun (everybody v. relaxed & precise, which i suppose is the Chick Corea house style):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlnwHDc8Rgk
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
Just saw Chick with Christian and Brian at Boston Symphony Hall and they *slayed*. So tight, so much fun to watch each of them perform, masters of their instruments. A hometown gig for Chick, lots of his friends and family leant to a really fun atmosphere.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 21 October 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link
Just listening to the Trilogy 2 record right now, it's really great.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
Watching his daily practice stream now.
― Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 April 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
Seeing unconfirmed reports that he passed away...
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah, Vernon Reid saying this
Just got the terrible news of Chick Corea passing.Stunned— Vernon Reid (@vurnt22) February 11, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
On his Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/chickcorea/posts/10158422599898924
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link
This is very sudden. I've been listening to Crystal Silence a lot since Christmas, there was a real rigour in a lot of his improvisations of that era, without being academic.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
rip. always loved this jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEHuUdQ4krw
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link
I post this with love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clF_SNa23lI
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
Genuinely shocked at his death — he's always seemed extraordinarily vital and joyous (not a moper like Jarrett). I haven't heard anything close to the majority of his catalog, but those mid '70s Return To Forever albums are stunning, and I just reviewed a solo live disc of his for The Wire a few months ago.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link
Damn, RIP to a real one
― Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link
Great photo of one of Return To Forever’s incarnations. pic.twitter.com/io9SCkOyGI— Tom Reagan’s Hat (@RufusTSuperfly) February 11, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
I'm listening now to "Steps - What Was" on Now He Sings, Now He Sobs. It features (I think) the first and best version of that Spanish progression that he would return to so often.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
RIP. By the way, I had no idea he actually was of Italian extraction, what with "My Spanish Heart" and all.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
sucks
― billstevejim, Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link
Damn, his early contributions are forever all-time. RIP.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
listening to crystal silence rn, rip
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link
Damn. Also can't believe he was even that old, although it makes sense that he was. Incredible musician. My favorite work of his was always Now He Sings, Now He Sobs, and the stuff with Miles, which is early, but he was always great. I couldn't completely get down with RTF, &Friends, etc., but a lot of that was more a sonic/aesthetic preference than a musical one.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link
RIP, his playing with miles and the return to forever album on ECM are so fab. His playing/improving can be so warm and mellifluous and welcoming. But I also think maybe he has quite a wider range than maybe he’s given credit for? not on ilx I mean.
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link
RIP
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link
:( RIP
― Oor Neechy, Thursday, 11 February 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link
We used Crystal Silence on classical guitar for our prelude music at our wedding. RIP.
― Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Friday, 12 February 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link
The Miles stuff, the early solo joints, CIRCLE!, the first Return to Forever lp, even that stuff alone is more then most people achieve and he went on to do a ton more
As Nate Chinen pointed out on twitter last night, something that hadn't ever even dawned on me, is that up until now sadly, a Circle reunion though obviously unlikely was theoretically possible
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
RIP. Aside from his classics, I really like those live albums with Christian McBride & Brian Blade.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link
I need to hear those
― brimstead, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
Is that his latest touring band? I saw Chick at Boston Symphony Hall in Oct 2019 and it was a truly special experience. Hometown crowd was out in force, lots of his family and friends. And the guys backing him were jaw-dropping great.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
absolute legend. respect.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
Saw him in duet with Bela Fleck and it was fantastic. Was probably on the tour that produced their second (live) record together, which I haven't heard. But the initial collab, The Enchantment, is lovely if the idea of piano and banjo duet doesn't turn you off. Really wish I could have seen him with McBride and Blade - what a trio.
He was a titan and unperson otm about that vitality in his playing. Listening to Crystal Silence right now but appreciating this thread for guidance into where else to dig into the nooks and crannies of his large and diverse catalog.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
I was trying to decide that to play last night and I was kind of overwhelmed by the great stuff in his catalog, so the first one I ended up putting on was Trilogy 2 and that felt like a good choice. Went back to some Return To Forever after that.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
Blade is a grounding influence, he's so percussive and virtuosic that it could be a bit much with a different drummer.
Also Gary Burton's Like Minds (the one with Metheny/Haynes/Dave Holland) is a classic, it sort of feels like everyone is part of the same smooth tone on that one, in a good way. And Corea + Haynes is always good.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
ooh yeah Like Minds is wonderful
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
Those Trilogy albums are really, really good. And his (for now) final release, Plays, was really interesting, a live solo set where he plays Mozart, Monk, Scarlatti, Jerome Kern, and a bunch of other stuff, then creates improvised musical portraits of people plucked from the audience, tells stories, etc., etc. It's a lot of fun to listen to, though maybe a little less fun this week. I reviewed it for The Wire a few months ago and said, "Were it not for his talent and technique, this would be unforgivable hokum, but somehow it works." And that's kind of the way I'd sum up a lot of his career...he was insanely talented and a brilliant composer, but had absolutely no allergy to cheese.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
Will anyone venture an opinion on his, er, spiritual beliefs and the effect they might have had on his music, or the reception of his music?
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
I'd be happy to but you have to pay me first, so if you could just hook yourself up to some tomato cans here.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
Subversive person!
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link
Out of respect for the dead, we will ignore the scientology and the Weckl era.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
I'll just say that anybody wondering why there was never a Circle reunion need only read Braxton's comments on Scientology in Graham Lock's Forces In Motion.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
I listen to his stuff with Miles more than anything else - simply because I listen to Miles more than anyone else - but if I had to pick a favorite, it would be those first two solo albums, Tones for Joan's Bones and Now He Sings, Now He Sobs. Both were released on different labels in 1968, but the former was actually recorded in 1966 - right out of the gate, he's already fully formed as an artist. Sad that I never saw him live. Following Lee Konitz's death, the news of Keith Jarrett's debilitating strokes as well as Sonny Rollins and Wayne Shorter's health issues, you can probably count on one hand how many of the giants of jazz's last golden age are still actively touring.
― birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
I wish I'd seen him live, too. I would have spent a lot of money to see a reunion show by the rip-roaringest Return To Forever lineup (Di Meola, Clarke, White), and that short-lived Five Peace Band he had with John McLaughlin was pretty wild, too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link
Roy Haynes will outlive us all
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link
95! I wonder if he still celebrates his birthday at the Blue Note? (Or perhaps celebrated - the club's in trouble and may not be around after the pandemic subsides.)
John McLaughlin is another one who's retired from the road. He's still physically able to perform, so I hope he'll do one-offs like festivals or something.
― birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
I was lucky enough to see McLaughlin's final US tour, where he played Mahavishnu Orchestra material with a nine-piece band. It ruled.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 12 February 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
And his (for now) final release
At least something recent already in the works...
In 2018, a reunited Chick Corea Akoustic Band played the Detroit Jazz Festival. I sat next to Mark Stryker, who said “This band sounds a hell of a lot better than it did 25 years ago.” Concord Jazz will release an album from that tour on May 21. pic.twitter.com/JzCRKdfyIH— Nate Chinen (@natechinen) February 12, 2021
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link
hymn of the seventh galaxy is goddamn fucking amazing btw
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link
I want Brad to, in five years, have evolved into a mystic who plays eight keyboards at once.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link
I'm so ready for an ILX jazz prog band
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link
Random album cover inspiration:
https://progressivelyso.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/eloy-ocean-1.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:44 (three years ago) link
Lovely thread of memories
Chick Corea and I became very close in the 60s after I first saw him play in Harlem with Blue Mitchell. Chick was a true modest genius. We had many incredible jam sessions together over the years and my memories of him haven’t stopped flooding in since hearing of his passing. 1/8 pic.twitter.com/QDzyaVSLDI— Mike Garson (@mikegarson) February 19, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 February 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link
Okay, that is amazing.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
Great piece by Mark Stryker, on Ethan Iverson’s site:
https://ethaniverson.com/chick-corea-1941-2021-by-mark-stryker/
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 19 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
Extremely informative -- much thanks for that.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
Stryker piece is a proper remembrance, not dominated by all the RTF/Eletrik/Akoustik Band stuff. To that point, it strikes me that there are lot of parallels between Chick and Todd Rundgren. Both were savants whose early works brought a ton of critical praise but also expectations, which they seemingly intentionally ran away from. Both spent decades exploring their own proggy fusoid directions to the horror of critics (and delight of many fans) and never apologized for it. For all that (as the Stryker piece shows), neither really ever lost touch with their respective traditions either – there are a ton of more straight ahead releases and tours littered throughout both men’s catalogues. Lastly, as stuff like the Garson thread demonstrates, both were deeply involved in the success of others along the way. We need more of these types.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:20 (three years ago) link
Interesting comparison. I wonder if the fact that Corea was universally regarded as a giant of his genre, while Todd is seen as a minor or cult artist with a handful of hits, can be traced to the differences between rock and jazz (or personality differences).
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
Good essay, yeah. He's definitely a unique jazz artist in that I love some of his records while finding many others unlistenable. Every respected jazz artist has ok records that merely have good musicianship, without that extra spark or synchronicity of all the factors aligning (band chemistry, material, recording). But I'm struggling to think of anyone with that many records that I truly do not want to hear.
Listening to this NTS show which looks like a cool selection: https://www.nts.live/shows/in-focus/episodes/in-focus-chick-corea-19th-february-2021
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link
Ok 45 min and I need to take a break, too many notes
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
So do you people have your Return to Forever records filed along side your Chick Corea. Checking for a friend. I got my Mahavishnu and Weather Report filed as it's own thing, but considering Return to Forever, I can't quite make it work - they just go with Chick's other records.
― earlnash, Saturday, 30 April 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link