TOTO "africa" classic or dud

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Classic.

Why hasn't anyone sampled it yet?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

(Someone besides Ja Rule, anyway)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

classic

Will M. (Will M.), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. Ja Rule was the most logical person to sample it obv and it worked well there too.

A little bit better than "Hold The Line" I think, a lot better than the "The Flame", a bit short of "Boys Of Summer", a long way off matching "Don't Stop Believing".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

As far as Toto goes, it's a classic. Toto themselves are, of course, dudder than dud.

Never could understand the narrative of the video.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry to dump all over all the Toto love, but this may be one of my most hated songs of all time.

>'Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus over the Serengeti'

Horrible lyric, and they DON'T manage to make that clunky line scan at all!

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

This song has one of the best choruses ever written.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's definitely all about the chorus. I happily adored this song when it was a massive pop smash -- I think it was their last big hit as such? -- and that chorus, phew, especially the extended version at the end of the song. Also helps to have a good lead-in bit to said chorus.

And then a couple of years later they did the soundtrack to Dune, which was also great. Result! As they say.

(To my knowledge I've not heard the Ja Rule track but that's probably because every other Ja Rule track I've heard sent me to sleep.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"Stranger in Town" is the better song, maybe because Wormtongue's in the video

steve hise, Monday, 28 March 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Has the signature tune from this ever been ripped for a hiphop track? If not why not?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

doh! learn to read Dog Latin.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

"Stranger in Town" is the better song, maybe because Wormtongue's in the video

And Piter de Vries! (I always had this weird idea that "Stranger in Town" was kinda their song *about* Paul Atreides -- if you stretch it all a bit. "The Sean Youngs think he's Jesus...")

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Green Day should cover it.

Ian in brooklyn, Monday, 28 March 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Certainly a great song. Toto were actually quite good in the 70s/80s, it is afterwards that they have really started sucking.

Sure you could always criticize a band that consists of studio musicians that prefer to demonstrate how well and faultless they play rather than writing good songs.
But, they did write good songs back then.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 March 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

classicckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

my band covers this song

billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

UNironically, I might add

billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

So long as your band isn't some tribute act called the Line Holders, that's cool.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a really funny male a capella choir version of this on a compilation record called Killed by Absurdity.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Toto Cover Band: Auntie Em!

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahah. I like me the VegemiteGrrl.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Hell even I liked this song on the radio but hey: what synthesizers were used on it?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Hell even I liked this song on the radio but hey: what synthesizers were used on it?
-- m coleman (lovebugstarsk...), March 29th, 2005.

i think an OB-Xa was used for the main saw wave page and a ARP synth for the bell.

startrekman, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

What Tim fails to mention is that the a capella version is an absolute CLASSIC in our household. It is at once the most hilarious and one of the BEST things that had ever arrived in our mailbox. The guy doing the drum part is my fave.

Jeanne (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:12 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
I like this a lot, mainly the verses rather than the chorus

"shes coming in, 12:30 flight"..really like this line

frankie driscoll, Sunday, 22 April 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've always liked the verses more than chorus on this song; the chorus is catchy but kinda generic, and the effecting of the voice is bland. Whereas on the verses the singing has a nice, soft quality. My favourite line is the one that starts "wild dogs cry out in the night..."

I really like the Ja Rule song too, it's one of the cases where oh-so-obvious sampling works. Especially on the verse where he talks about his childhood the sample really gives the tune some emotional weight.

Tuomas, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Also sampled by Xzibit, on "Heart Of Man" off of 2002's "Man Vs Machine"

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^ i agree with this racist too

xpost

600, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I danced to this last summer. Great stuff.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Good song, maybe not quite classic.

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i have mildly positive feelings about this song

deej, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a good song, but the band is mostly terrible. sort of tarnishes it

Charlie Howard, Monday, 23 April 2007 09:06 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS IS WHY AFRICA IS HOT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpE0cXaS9g

blueski, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently Toto were the backing band on "Thriller". My friend who is obsessed with Toto talks of being the kind of awful band you get when super-talented session musos decide to start making their own records.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Funny thing about the Thriller connection--when I first heard JoJo's "Anything," which samples "Africa" (to answer someone's question above) (and which I like much better than "Africa" because it's JoJo singing), I thought it was a sample of MJ's "Human Nature."

sw00ds, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

"Thriller" was backed by what was called the "LA Studio Mafia" at the time, which featured part of Toto, but also several other musicians. Greg Phillicanes, Michael Boddicker and Gary Grant were never members of Toto, and for instance "Billie Jean" didn't feature one single Toto member in its lineup.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff Porcaro died in a bizarre gardening accident.

sw00ds, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

One of the ten best songs ever.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

It's true -- it's all about that chorus.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

(although saying it's one of the ten best songs ever is a bit over the top).

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not even the best song on the new Singstar Rock Ballads. And singing along to it really does hammer home just how ridiculous the lyrics in the verses are.

ledge, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE>

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

this song has done more for africa than bono ever will

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I almost said classic, then I realized that the song in my head was Phil Collins' "Take Me Home". This is somewhere in between c and d.

The Reverend, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, ill just go ahead and retract that. this thread shouldn't have to be tainted by bono.

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

(xpost)

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

wait, toto did the soundtrack to dune????

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I still like "Roseanna" better.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Georgie porgy is one of the 10 best songs ever

jaxon, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

saying you like "Roseanna" better is indefensible

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

nuh uh, it's got that sick jeff porcaro beat!

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

points off for referring to “Separate Ways” as “Journey’s ‘Love Will Find You’” but does make me want to hear Toto’s “Hash Pipe”

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

you can summon conceptually and creatively loathsome music like . . . anything by Oingo Boingo

GTFO with this

Rock’n’Roll is the sound of America’s disenfranchised, made electric.

Rock'n'roll has been The Establishment for at least 40 years if not longer, and you don't get to just blithely claim hip-hop as "rock'n'roll" for whatever the purposes of this argument are.

Eliza D., Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

v difficult karaoke song ime

. (Michael B), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

“All those little musical catchphrases that were in the hit are all there, but it’s taking place in a soundscape that’s the size of the Serengeti. You think, ‘This is background music.’ No. It’s foreground music. It’s a lot of what I listened to when I was doing First National Band, and one of the reasons why without [pedal steel guitarist] Red Rhodes I never would have been able to put it together. First National Band left a lot on the table. This is on the channel called Shitpost Wizard.”

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

basically somebody needs to play michael the 11 minute version of "don't you know" by the jan hammer group

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

haha that might as well be the top 82 numbers between 1 and 82.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 August 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

re: the realclearlife link…Tim Sommer has in the past couple of years proffered very caffeinated, tedious hot takes for a couple of outlets. as I guess he's trying to be a pundit decades after Hugo Largo and having signed Hootie and the Blowfish. The most notable such outlet was the New York Observer well into the stewardship of one Ken Kurson, a one time punk rocker who worked for Giuliani 10 years ago and who gutted the legacy of the Observer, a paper I treasure having written for, on the say so of jared Kushner. Well into 2016 and Kurson having been a co-writer of one of President Diarrhea's statements re: the retweeted Star of David/cash meme, Sommer continued to associate with Kurson. So he can shut his fucking mouth re: that hair-ruffling line in his weezer/africa jeremiad. When it counted, he worked for a trumpworld lackey, and apparently still associates with the guy, who was up for a national endowment of the arts post until the feds found out that he's a shady piece of shit.

veronica moser, Thursday, 23 August 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

jfc

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-45608054

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 22 September 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

A music venue in Bristol is going to play Africa by Toto on loop all night to raise funds for an African charity.

DJ Michael Savage will play the US rock band's biggest hit on vinyl for "five hours straight" at The Exchange in Bristol on 30 November.
He said people can be sponsored for how long they last.

Band member Steve Lukather said in a tweet he would "kill someone after about five plays". He added: "Imagine if you will, we cut this 1981. You think YOU have heard it too much? LOL".

They should raise money by saying for every donation they get they will play it a minute less or something.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 September 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

The local radio station plays this song once every day, so I feel like cumulatively I've listened to it for five hours already.

Visibly Over 25 (snoball), Saturday, 22 September 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Lukather seems cool

growing up in publix (morrisp), Saturday, 22 September 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

Luke slays on beat it

calstars, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

Are you guys familiar with his guitar teacher?

Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 September 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

Luke is a bit of a rockist crybaby

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link

I was at a high school football game today. dJ playing exclusively hip hop until the game started, then switched to Weezer’s Rosanna and Africa

President Keyes, Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:13 (five years ago) link

He met you all the way

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link

There was no reason for a cover of this song.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

Yeah it should be like those public radio "save a day" campaigns where they fundraise less if they meet their (totally arbitrary) goal.

"We're almost up to the amount where we can stop playing this fucking song!"

And I say that as someone generally well disposed toward the song. It's just that there is, in fact, a limit.

I hope the djs do what's right. Sure as taramasalata rises like a Memphis among the sarin Geddy Lee.

I've moped on a moped and cooed with a coed (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Pitbull has released his own version of the song "Africa" by Toto from the #Aquaman soundtrack. pic.twitter.com/QeHaNwNhAv

— Lights, Camera, Pod (@LightsCameraPod) December 13, 2018

Number None, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

I would have never thought that Karl Wolf would have been ahead of the curve 10 years ago, but here we are.

MarkoP, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

I can't believe we're still not at peak Africa

Vinnie, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:28 (five years ago) link

PINK FLOYD RULES

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 December 2018 04:35 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Watching Weezer perform this on Dick Clark’s Primetime New Year’s Rockin’ Eve, as cheezy 20-somethings exhuberantly sing along.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 05:23 (five years ago) link

I am literally standing in the middle of the Serengeti right now and I don't see Kilimanjaro anywhere. I call bs.

Definitely no snow either, but they did know it was Christmas.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 05:45 (five years ago) link

We've passed peak Africa, with Pitbull as the shark-jump point. I played the LNTG remix out numerous times in 2018, and the one-ecstatic reaction to it is now on the wane. I'm probably going to retire it in 2019.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 10:52 (five years ago) link

("once-ecstatic", duh)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 10:53 (five years ago) link

Africa by Toto to play on eternal loop down in the coastal Namib Desert

"Mr Siedentopf tells the BBC it is set to play forever, with solar batteries "to keep Toto going for all eternity"."

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 08:24 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

More Bobby Kimball content:

my favourite genre of video is 'bobby kimball from toto trying to perform africa now' pic.twitter.com/WOxzjQg4xY

— ▀▀▀▀▀▀ (@immolations) July 10, 2019

pplains, Saturday, 13 July 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I forgot I'd remixed this

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3rp3s2nBlK/

S-, Sunday, 20 October 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/unN7QvSWSTo

calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link

ECCOJAMZ

calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

Original content

calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Lol at Steve’s wristbands in the video

calstars, Thursday, 6 April 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link

wristband close up

calstars, Thursday, 6 April 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link


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