Filing your music alphabetically - C/D?

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my cds WERE in alpha order... now they're in quasi-alphabetic blocks... sections of all g's or all p's and so on.

that color ordering sounds very intriguing.
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msp, Friday, 3 October 2003 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

A friend of mine also files her cds by spine color, and it drives me insane (spine color is different with different versions of the same cd. One version of 'Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash' is black, the other white - how am I supposed to know which one she has?). I used to spend way too much time trying to find anything, now I just go over to the whites and find Tom Waits' Island releases, or I just refuse to pick out anything.

It does look great, though.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. But my filing system is Chaos nonetheless.

scott m (mcd), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

I used to do it alphabetically, but now I have a book of alpha older cd's, a bookshelf with the first shelf being New Orleans music and the rest being random shit, the pile of stuff on top of my cd player, and the pile of cd's in mixed up cases on the passenger side floor of my car.

Since my bookshelf is all out of order anyway, I would love to do the color thing.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

I used to have it alphabetically, but then I re-arranged them by date of release 'cause I had this huge existential crisis.

I never tell this bit of information on a first date.

alex in montreal, Friday, 3 October 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

I never tell this bit of information on a first date.

yeah, unless it's a librarian, it seems like one of those things you might do well to mention in safer waters... that's an interesting sorting though. probably pretty useful when trying to see the release in perspective with others...
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msp, Friday, 3 October 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

I am really amazed that so many people alphabetize. It makes sense to alphabetize when you are dealing with a collection that is going to be used by the general public (because so many people have already memorized the alphabet), but a private collection? Wouldn't you rather keep similar CDs together?

Al Andalous, Friday, 3 October 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

I kind of like that someone can come over, look through them, and be able to find what they're looking for (unless it's something from one of the recently listened to piles, which I'm trying to cut down on) without bugging me for help.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

man, Friday, 3 October 2003 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

I alphabetize, even though it's a private collection, because if I don't, it takes me a lot longer to find something. I guess I could think up another system of organization using style or genre, but frankly, it seems like a lot more work. The alphabet is kind of dumb, but easy.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

Wouldn't you rather keep similar CDs together?

What difference does it make? You only listen to one at time.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

And similar in what way exactly? I mean, one cd might be similar to several others which aren't at all similar to each other. It's all so damned confusing. I think I'm just too lazy to come up with a system that's as easy to use as alphabetizing.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

too many artists do more than one thing. too many albums want to be filed in more than one genre. unless you're getting paid to file and label, it seems like a dangerous kind of fun.

alphabetical ordering also leads to fun juxtapositions. Bruno Maderna > Madonna > Magma = dream concert (in that order).

(Jon L), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

oh shit! forgot to refile Mahler.

(Jon L), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

oh shit! h comes after g and it doesn't matter.

ooooh boy.

jl (Jon L), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

What difference does it make? You only listen to one at time.

Sometimes I don't know specifically what I want to listen to, but I know generally what type of music I want to put on. If the CDs are grouped by type, I can browse more easily that way.

Agree that there are many different similarities they could be grouped by. I just go with the ones that stand out the most for me.

Al Andalous, Friday, 3 October 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

I work in a library.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

I used to have them in an arbitrary order--no particular reason to put it *there*, but once there it would stay. But then I moved too much and got too many and now it's alpha. I break out the classical and jazz, tho.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:01 (twenty years ago) link

alphabetical, no genre distinctions and the comps are at the end listed alphabetically by title. Works for me, therefore classic. I tried doing it chronologically once but friends hated that cuz they couldn't find stuff and I wasn't sure what to do with CDs like #1 Record/Radio City.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

I had a college buddy who filed them by color!

Were you me? (My roommate for a laugh did color once.)

For a while I had chronologically by country, but the collection got too large...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Alpha, then chrono within each artist

oops (Oops), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

Compilatiosn go under V for Various, then alphabetically by title of comp DUR.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

Just kill me. Drag me outside and destroy my body.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

i do compilations by label if i have several (like kompakt mixes go under kompakt) or title if they don't highlight a particular label/artist (like soul jazz comps), or just chrono under an artist if they're comps of the artist's label (so crydamoure comps go under daft punk).

now how can i rationally divide all of dance music into six styles (drawers)?

vahid (vahid), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

techno
house
trance
downtempo
ambient
experimental

Leee (Leee), Friday, 3 October 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

Stop this Madness!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 October 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

I used to every so often go on a re-organising spree and try and think up a New and Novel way of putting my records in order, except they all failed miserably. Alphabetical-by-record-label was kinda fun, except the lack of Cool Indie Labels made me feel really bad about my music tastes and I could never find my AYWKUBTTOD records (a different label each album, damn them). The Random Tangents organising system was great, except I ended up with a load at the end which I couldn't fit in, and then I got bitched out by a friend because she couldn't understand my Organisation By Genre.

So alphabetical - with the stuff I don't listen to in a box somewhere else, and freebie compilations on a different shelf organised by magazine, then date - is the only option left. And, you know, it kinda works.

cis (cis), Friday, 3 October 2003 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Everything is alphabetical, no genre distinctions whatsoever. Trust me, with some 8000 or so records, there is simply no other way to reasonably keep track of it all. Compilations are at the end, alphabetical by title.

Ethnographic/field recordings come after the compilations, filed alphabetically by country of origin. That's probably the only real cop to genre...

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 3 October 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

Primarily, no ordering. It means you find things you wouldn't think of getting out or had completely forgotten. I don't even like having vinyl here and CDs over there. And CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY, not singles apart from albums. I'm always getting flack from friends because I don't look after my music, the CD is almost always in a different place to the case, especially if its any good. I think there's something to be said for someone who really loves music holding it in enough contempt to leave it all in disarray.

But, and its a big but:

Broadly speaking, the stuff I DJ with ends up in one area of the floor. But then I always find things on albums I want to DJ with so it gets moved. And I DJ with a bloody massive range of stuff.

Spoken word records tend to end up in the same place, except when I DJ with them.

Then I have vast piles of rarely listened to stuff.

And Scott 1, 2, 3 and 4 look lovely next to each other on a bookshelf.

Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Friday, 3 October 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

we've got about 4000 records and before we moved i think they were seperated this way: 90's-current/80's/70's/60's/punk/metal/jazz/country/classical/funk & R&B/electro/disco/12 inches/other(other being comedy, soundtracks, peruvian nose flute, etc...) um, i think that was it. the 90's/80's/70's/60's stuff was any rock or singer/songwriter stuff that didn't fit a specific genre. it made it pretty manageable. i was gonna do alphabetical one night, but i got sleepy. now they are all in storage and i don't have to worry about them at all. i just listen to cd's and npr(great feature on MF Doom the other day).

OH! and cd's. we've got about a thousand but i don't care where they go or what order they are in. they can go up the chimney for all i care. tapes are in boxes and every blind handful is a decades-old surprise.

scott seward, Friday, 3 October 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

and rap. rap had its own section.

scott seward, Friday, 3 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

What about those lovely oversized releases on Mego?
You need a whole separate container for such misshapen
packages. Boxed sets? Another problematic filing
predicament. CDs in cardboard slipcases rather than
jewel boxes? Put 'em in a shoebox. ARRRGGGHHHH!

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Friday, 3 October 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

Stop this Madness!

i'm surprised you don't use dewey Nick

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 October 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

Once you reach a certain number, classifying them in any other way than alphabetically becomes difficult.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

I have a highly arbitrary personal system. My CD books are alpha, but for crates, everything's visible at once, so I do it by genre or artists I associate with each other, then by items that I got in the same place or at the same time. New stuff is done the second way. Where it gets tricky is when I have dubbed tapes with 2 albums on them (probably half my collection.) Where do you put "Christian Death/ Men Without Hats"? I solved that by putting it next to Bowie. It really baffles other people- I keep my music crates at work with a dozen people- they have no idea what to do when they borrow, so every day I just gather a pile and refile it myself.

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

I have a highly arbitrary personal system. My CD books are alpha, but for crates, everything's visible at once, so I do it by genre or artists I associate with each other, then by items that I got in the same place or at the same time. New stuff is done the second way. Where it gets tricky is when I have dubbed tapes with 2 albums on them (probably half my collection.) Where do you put "Christian Death/ Men Without Hats"? I solved that by putting it next to Bowie. It really baffles other people- my music crates are in a place with a dozen people- they have no idea what to do when they borrow, so every day I just gather a pile and refile it myself.

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

Oops

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

I file by genre, then alphabetically within the genre. BUT!! There are always things I get hung up on, such as:

is Led Zeppelin filed under L or Z?
what aboout Jethro Tull - J or T?
The Band - B for Band, or under T?
Iggy Pop and the Stooges - P or S?
Thin Lizzy - T or L?

maybe I'm just stupid, but I always have trouble with this alphabetical system. After a while everything devolves into little piles of various discs scattered throughout the house anyway, so maybe I should just forget the whole thing.

Davlo (Davlo), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:30 (twenty years ago) link

is Led Zeppelin filed under L or Z?
what aboout Jethro Tull - J or T?
The Band - B for Band, or under T?
Iggy Pop and the Stooges - P or S?
Thin Lizzy - T or L?

Answers:
L
J
B
P
T

calstars (calstars), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

I cheat a bit and put "Raw Power" under S so I have more Stooges records

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

I have a massive "rock" section which includes everything you expect plus techno/electronica, modern soul/funk/R&B, crossover/alternative/whatever country, etc. All that's alphabetical. Then I have a lot of smaller sections for other genres -- hip-hop, old soul, jazz, blues, African, reggae, etc. All of that is roughly chronilogical by artist. Everything from the current year is kept separate in fairly random order until the year is over, then is filed to its proper location. All the vinyl is alphabetical by artist regardless of genre.

but I'm inpsired by this thread to put all the CDs together and order everything chronilogically. That sounds fun.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

Once you reach a certain number, classifying them in any other way than alphabetically becomes difficult.

Spot on!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

i have different systems for vinyl and cds.

vinyl: 12"s by label name in alphabetical order. albums are not in order because i dont tend to buy vinyl albums and therefore dont have a lot.

cds: alphabetical order but they are split into 4 very general categories: jazz, classical, dance, rock/pop/hiphop/indie/etc. my policy for synth pop is to place it in the rock/pop/etc. section, probably because a lot of those artists (ie Gary Numan or New Order) come from the post-punk tradition. dance is basically kraftwerk then detroit techno, chicago house and everything that has come afterwards.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 4 October 2003 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, you must do this. The world needs more alphabetising. An alphabetising worker is a happy worker.

Laura, Saturday, 4 October 2003 05:32 (twenty years ago) link

"Autobiographically"

Sasha (sgh), Saturday, 4 October 2003 06:25 (twenty years ago) link

if i ever did something like this then it would be the way to go.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 4 October 2003 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

Alphabetical all the way, but then I have less than 300 CDs.

Iggy & The Stooges go under S for me, because I have two Stooges records and only one Iggy & The Stooges record and they need to be kept together.

A Tribe Called Quest is a difficult one because I would group the word "A" in with the word "The", but currently The Low End Theory sits between DJ Assualt and Babybird.

Nick H, Saturday, 4 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

techno/house/trance/downtempo/ambient/experimental

But where do your hardcore/hardstyle records go? And drum 'n bass? Electro?

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 4 October 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link

I do it alphabetically, but I don't put the classicals in. It's not a problem because I don't have many classical CDs, but there are too many of them that have more than one composer and one performer, or one famous composer with a non-famous performer.

Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Saturday, 4 October 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

I just want to say that this thread is amazing. Four people file by COLOR? Fucking beautiful. Saveing it to my favorites...

Anyway, about the Stooges thing, 'Raw Power' just mentions "Iggy" and not the word "Pop", so it sure as shit goes next to 'Funhouse'. The real problem occurs when you've got things like the one I have with "Cock In My Pocket" and all that shit, it's called "Raw Power" (even though it isn't!) by "Iggy Pop And The Stooges". Where the heck does that go?

John 2, Sunday, 5 October 2003 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

I already dealt with this stuff, guys! Read the bloody thread.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

can see the value in keeping your Alice Cooper and your Cooper, Alice records separate tho

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

Most single-artist pseudonyms I would file like real names with surname first, but band names that are people's names (hello John Sims) would be under the first letter of the whole thing.

So if it's a fictional name that covers the band, it's the first fucking letter.

PJ Harvey doesn't get a pass, sorry. She chose to do it that way, that's the way it's gonna be.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

I was looking for one of his LPs recently and looked in H, O, and P and couldn't find it. Turns out there was a scratched copy but it was filed in under the section of one of the sidemen (after someone got frustrated with the conundrum probably)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

emily i don't agree if you mean "treating everybody as a session player" - yr status in a band is defined by contractual or other remunerative things, not the name of the band

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

i file randomly.

makes the hunt for a particular cd a lot more fun.

mark e, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

yr status in a band is defined by contractual or other remunerative things

Okay, I know you're talking about "real bands" with "real contracts" playing "real music" or whatever here, but that is so completely a) unlike any band experience I've ever had, and b) unromantic. ;_;

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

actually not earning any money is a good counter to my theory, must rethink

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

anyway, yr status in the band isn't about the band name, people might just mutually decide that one of them has a really cool name, like Dave Killdozer or Gary Modern Jazz Quartet

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

^__^

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but what about PJ Harvey?

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

/ducks

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

ya know, most of these problems are solved with a "file under first name only" system, but I am just not ready for that part of the 21st century

our radio station switched over to first name filing a couple of years ago because that's how iTunes works

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

(assuming you don't change the CDDB tags)

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah as i say i feel like first names is the most consistent way to go

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

But what about PJ Harvey (& John Parish) re: file by first name?

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/CE/BDEF77ADBC4FCF24487FB64DB4A6B0.jpg
http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2009/03/pj_harvey-a_man_a_woman.jpg

Their fault for changing the order of their names?

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

i assume the change in order indicates significant differences between the two projects and wd file them separately accordingly

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

I file it under the "spotify" icon

every moser (wins), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

i assume the change in order indicates significant differences between the two projects and wd file them separately accordingly

yeah this, see also the 3 David Tibet/Steven Stapleton albums which I think are in different order depending

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

I'm proud of myself. I now group all Bill Callahan and Smog records together, under C. Asmus Tietchens and Hematic Sunsets records together, under T.

nerve_pylon, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link

if you file by upc code number, all of these problems are immediately solved.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link

and then you just put some upc code detection software into your phone and everything is easy to find.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link

brothers johnson goes under "b" yes?

chinavision!, Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

I think I'm inconsistently consistent. Tom Robinson Band under R, Bram Tchaikovsky (a pseudonym) under T.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 29 March 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link

I've had them under 'b' forever, but just had a momentary doubt thanks to this thread when I wanted to play strawberry letter 23

chinavision!, Saturday, 29 March 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

I have ~350 records sorted alphabetically (and chronologically for artists with multiple entries) in 4 categories (rock/pop, hiphop, jazz, soundtracks) with rock/pop being the biggest of these

thinking of rearranging them to form a top 350 of my collection, rating and ranking my collection

I'd do it for fun and to shake things up a bit, and while atm it's nice that friends can easily check what Neil Young records I have by going to Y, it'll perhaps be even more fun to have them offended when they find that Trans has been relegated to the lower shelves (or smth)

anyone tried this?

niels, Thursday, 31 March 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

what sort of person looks for neil young records?

Keks + Nuss (contenderizer), Thursday, 31 March 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

it's be fun arrange the records so that the best ones are directly next to the record player, the merely good albums kind of trail off toward the hall, the meh ones are near the front door, and the worst ones are kind of casually flung next to a box marked "free records" outside by the garbage

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 March 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

i just want to bump this to draw attention to the first few words of my post just above, i did a great job

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 March 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

You did a good job, you stacked the letters in each word very neatly

My records mostly look like this, I dont remember what most of them are called but I do know that spring is coming

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/161566344572-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

saer, Thursday, 31 March 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

it would be very easy for you to arrange your collection by color

niels, Thursday, 31 March 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link

By Pitchfork score, duh.

MatthewK, Thursday, 31 March 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

Old system, until this afternoon:
- Collections for each decade, with each decade alphabetized.

New system:
1. All my 5-star records are in a separate section on the top shelf, alphabetized.
2. Jazz gets its own section. Though I may backtrack on this decision during the next re-org.
3. Everything else alphabetized (I collated all the decades in a massive merge sort operation)

enochroot, Monday, 13 September 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link

Seems reasonable, my mate has always advocated a separate section for the best stuff, the theory being it will encourage more listening of favorites over endless crate digging.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 13 September 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link

sorted by whether or not the pile has been knocked flying recently.
With most recent purchases on top or possibly most recently played.
Always make sure you have more than one pile of cds around you and that most of them are obscured either by having other stuff piled on top of them or by the rest of the pile. So when you go to find something you are bound to find something else entirely.
Keeps your listening fresh or not as the case may be.
the Pollyanna system.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 September 2021 12:46 (two years ago) link

Idgi - if you organize by rating, don't you have to remember the rating of every record you own in order to find anything quickly?

Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 13 September 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

For records: Alphabetical by size (12", 10", 7"), and then one square dedicated to new purchases, old favorites, and passing fancies. That square gets wheedled back down to a handful every few weeks as it slowly fills up and spills over into the turntable area. Another two long shelves are "to be sold" LPs/12"s and 7"s, which are every so often sold and every so often re-evaluated and put back in the main collection. My wife's LPs are another shelf, and another section is absolute dreck I was given by friends who know I like records and which I should throw out but...

CDs: In boxes in the garage attic. Not convenient, but no real CD player anymore and no room in the house. Hoping to get a dedicated CD player again when we do some remodeling and regain some space, and then these will come back in.

Cassettes: So few left, but these are in two small boxes nears the LPs. Getting my old Aiwa refurbished so i can play these properly again, as I've purchased two cassettes so far this year (Poison Ruïn and Angel Bat Dawid) so maybe more to come.

city worker, Monday, 13 September 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

Idgi - if you organize by rating, don't you have to remember the rating of every record you own in order to find anything quickly?

― Taliban! (PBKR)

Yes I do, but it gives me a chance to reevaluate each time I play an album.

Also, I have my entire collection rated in discogs, so I can always fall back on that.

enochroot, Monday, 13 September 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link


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