Kristin Hersh (solo) - C/D, S/D, OPO, RFD, &c.

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yes, those are the definitive versions of those songs to me, particularly Me and My Charms.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked "Your Ghost" a lot; Michael Stipe sounds like a pedophile on it. (I was a Tanya Donnelly fan when the Muses were around)

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, maybe y'all can trainspot a tune of hers (I think??!!) for me. '93-'94-ish, big, BIG string quartet, and lyrics along the lines of:

"you don't inspire / a metric tonne of trust"

and

"and we dance all night"

It's been ear-worming on me these past few days.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Key"

Si Carter (Si Carter), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

That would be "The Key," which originally appeared in the UK on the Your Ghost EP and in the States on the American version of Strings.

Bah xpost!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks!

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

see! i was right!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 28 February 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link


yeah fhazel OTM.

jergins (jergins), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

me likes *some* of that children's songs rekkid also.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

But at heart you are a child, my dear Balt. (I am a zygote.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

you keep your zygote zipped, ol' ned, or else i'll call me mum!!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Pervert. To the western islands with you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Anyway, I did finally get a copy of said kid's record Murder, Misery and then Goodnight -- sitting around used at my fave record store, sorta much to my surprise as I'd never seen a copy anywhere, and used at that! Really enjoyable, actually, and on relistens might yet be one of her best albums, but I'll have to see how that goes...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Ahh, I've been trying to find that for ages!
It's available from emusic, if that helps.

dlp9001, Thursday, 9 June 2005 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Sky Motel has, over the past year or so, become one of my all-time favorite records

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Her just released 'Learn to Sing Like a Star' joins Hips & Makers, Sunny Border Blue and Sky Motel as my top 4 - all equal #1, of course.

It's really REALLY good.

gutpageant (Sans Sushi), Monday, 29 January 2007 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

current #1 on metacritic too

I think I'm gonna make this year the one I finally get round to investigating Kristin's post-'Strange Angels' (which I didn't like much) solo stuff. Starting here, and 'Murder, Misery and then Goodnight' which I've been meaning to get for too long. Only recently discovered the pretty damn great 50Ft Wave record...

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I just played a track off of thi on the radio! Didn't even know it was out. It was good. I need to listen to the whole thing to see if it comes close to Hips & Makers, which is still my fave.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

First impressions:

1. Relentlessly downbeat (even for Kristin). Veering close to self parody at times.
2. Dave Narcizo drums on nearly all the tracks. This helps make the overall sound a lot closer to Throwing Muses than most Hersh solo LPs have been (a plus for me). I like the string arrangements too.
3. A couple of good tunes, but no obvious standout tracks.
4. Her voice is completely shot these days. Does this make the album title ironic?

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm so embarrassed i haven't heard any kristin solos. really big on throwing muses - it's kind of exciting tho cuz i have this whole world to discover.

the world of kristin. alone.

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

where should i start?

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link


I've never really been able to get into her solo stuff all that much. I'm hoping this new one will be more up my alley.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Start @ the beginning, sur - Hips & Makers. JBR OTM wrt that & Strange Angels being her solo peaks (tho Sky Motel's pretty good in a University-era TM manner, if I'm remembering it right). The other stuff - Sunny Border Blue, The Grotto, that olde tyme Murder, Mystery OOP CD, & zee new one - I can't speak on so much.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Start @ the beginning, sur - Hips & Makers. JBR OTM wrt that & Strange Angels being her solo peaks (tho Sky Motel's pretty good in a University-era TM manner, if I'm rememb

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks!

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF is up w/ ILX cutting me off half-way thru posts?!?!?!?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

lol it 1.5x ur post

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

4. Her voice is completely shot these days. Does this make the album title ironic?

Yeah, I have a 2005 live recording by her and it's a bit sad to hear her settling into her late-70's Marianne Faithful phase.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno i mean her voice has always been about how she uses it, right? how bad can it get?

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

But it was always clear and not gravelly. I'm a bit afraid of what it sounds like on the new album but the praise on this thread is giving me some hope.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

IMO, her voice hasn't always been clear - in fact, in my mind, one of the defining characteristics of her voice has been not necessarily gravelly but

scratchy, for lack of a better word. like it always made sense to me that she sang about kissing gravel on Limbo.

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

If you like "scratchy" then you'll love how she sounds these days!

You're right in that she is fairly limited, vocally ... she doesn't have much range, so her voice is easily stretched. This isn't a bad thing, mind you (it gives the songs a "gutsy" quality), and for the most part she can sing powerfully enough to pull it off. But now, she sounds hoarse even the middle of her range.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i see

no but totally not a bad thing - i always LIKED the "gutsy" stretching stuff

lots of character

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Start with "Sunny Border Blue" then work back then go with the post SBB albums (Muses and solo).

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Has her voice changed much compared to the 50 Ft Wave full-length?

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

throwing muses are my 2nd favorite band of all time. i think. right? yeah.

i have to hear the 50 ft wave.

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

You can get a free 50 Ft Wave album off her website (throwingmusic.com).

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

50 ft. wave might have ruined her voice if it really sounds that scratchy now

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

really?? free?? that's so weird

surmounter (rra123), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm, might be production. She sounded pretty raw and raspy on the first Throwing Muses album.

As an addendum to this thread, the additional CD of Kristen Hersh performing Throwing Muses songs solo live in Hoboken that came free with early editions of Red Heaven is well worth tracking down...

http://www.discogs.com/release/534791

In finding that link however I did find this which maybe pretty good too...

http://www.archive.org/details/KristinHersh1999-10-22.cm-s20.flac16

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

her voice doesn't sound any raspier or more thrashed than it has on anything else she's done since Limbo, to me. good album.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

She's touring the UK in early march - hurrah!

Mark Co (Markco), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow! Pretty good on my first listen - the 1st track really grabbed me.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

She was amazing live. She played a few weeks ago, and there was barely anyone in the record store--maybe 20 people, tops. So we stepped right up to the front. and it was free(!).
She played mostly new tunes, Gazebo Tree, Sundrops, and I think Your Dirty Answer.
She was so sarcastic, I loved it. (banter about NPR has "hosts instead of DJs," and the wikipedia stub that says she writes songs about many things, like apples and cowboys.)I never get starstruck, but she was just so cool in a very real way. So when I was asking her to sign Golden Ocean, I remember saying some really stupid things, cuz i was semi-nervous. which was annoying, but..aahh, whatever.
But she was definitely hypnotizing.
Mesmerized, it was awesome.

And yeah, her voice was definitely pretty raspy--i.e., my friend who'd never heard a note of Hersh things prior
remarked that Kristin sounded like an 80 year old smoker.
Though, I don't know if I'm just accustomed to her voice,
--I mean, I do usually enjoy my music a little scrambled anyway,
but I really enjoyed her delivery. It was raspy, but it was completely "in there" and sincere.
I just love her, she's great.

mox twelve (Mox twleve), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks for that archive.org link... wow! I forget about that site.

only just got round to hearing the "Live at Noe Valley Ministry" official thing too. Good!

Stream the new one in full here :)

about:coffee (fandango), Sunday, 11 February 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i love her voice on limbo

Surmounter (rra123), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i just love her so much. i'm sorry i'm getting all emotional.

Surmounter (rra123), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Continuing my belated exposure to the Muses in general, I got Hips & Makers in the mail today. "Your Ghost" and "Houdini Blues" are as chilling as I remember. As for the rest, stay tuned.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm planning on seeing her April 19 at the Narrows in Fall River, Mass. Supposedly she's appearing with a "full band with strings."
Anyone know how many strings we're talking about? I can't imagine you can fit too many musicians on that tiny stage.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, I did the same thing. Only one library in Rhode Island has reserved it so far.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

So this interview with Hersh is beyond kickass.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

100 pages into Rat Girl and I can't recommend it enough. So endearing.

john. a resident of chicago., Friday, 5 November 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I really need to buy that book.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 5 November 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

UK title: Paradoxical Undressing. The book version of her latest album is really good as well!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 November 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Good interview in the Guardian:
"Yeah, I hate music. Everyone knows that about me. Even my kids hate music. When they're watching a kids' show on TV, as soon as a song comes on, the TV is muted." She reconsiders. "Maybe hate is the wrong word. We can't bear it. The intensity of good music is too much to bear. And bad music is so offensive that that's also too much to bear. I'm in heaven when it's good, but that doesn't happen very often. And anyway, you don't want to be crying over the breakfast table. I don't want that life."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/aug/22/kristin-hersh-memoir-interview-edinburgh

john. a resident of chicago., Thursday, 25 August 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

i interviewed kristin in 2007 and she told me the same thing. sadly i can't seem to find the article i wrote about her online at the moment. love her, of course -- i might even like the solo stuff more than the muses.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 28 August 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

For anyone interested, there are still a few copies of Kristin's 2015 Record Store Day single 'Sundrops'/'The Cuckoo' available via the label's website (heliospheric.co.uk).

It was only released in the UK, so this is the best chance for US and European fans to get hold of a copy before they all go. The two songs are acoustic versions recorded for a never-broadcast local radio session in 1994 while Kristin was in the UK touring 'Hips and Makers', and have never been released until now. They are fab and all KH fans should hear them!

strangeangel, Friday, 1 May 2015 07:05 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Wyatt At The Coyote Palace streaming now at NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/27/499145143/first-listen-kristin-hersh-wyatt-at-the-coyote-palace

Jeff W, Saturday, 29 October 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw her in Cambridge MA tonight. I haven't followed her work in a decade but it was a great voice and guitar performance with lots of anecdotes and poetry between songs.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 19 December 2016 02:41 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

oh shit new throwing muses AND new solo kristin hersh next year (I really need to renew my lapsed subscription)

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

aforementioned new solo tracks are arriving; this has a bit of a "Rubidoux" feel https://pitchfork.com/news/kristin-hersh-announces-new-album-shares-new-song-listen/

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.normanrecords.com/records/172053-kristin-hersh-possible-dust-clouds

(Shocked to see it isn't on 4ad ... but perhaps she hasn't been with them for years??)

djh, Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

think her last 4AD release was Learn to Sing Like a Star in 2007 (or the Throwing Muses Anthology in 2011)

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 October 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

Haven't really been paying attention (obviously).

djh, Friday, 5 October 2018 06:10 (five years ago) link

and a UK tour next March: https://www.kristinhersh.com/appearances/

including a few places off the usual tour circuit, such as my home town - hooray! I confess I have also not been paying attention but perhaps this is a good motivator to do so

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 5 October 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link

Oh wow, KH at the Phil (ok, not the pub) in L'pool in March sounds like it's worth a trip. Almost the 30th anniversary of seeing the Muses for the first time in L'pool. Jeez.

I doubt I can get to Rough Trade East after work in three weeks' time for that appearance.

Michael Jones, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link

x-post. Thanks for the tip-off re the shows, Spacecadet. The Holywell Music Room in Oxford seems a tiny venue for her but having checked Wegottickets sales seem fairly stagnant. That said, I hadn't noticed anything about the show.

djh, Saturday, 6 October 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

Ooh, I'm ready for new stuff. Strange Angels and Sky Motel have been sounding so good to me recently. Don't know why I never spent much time with the latter.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 6 October 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

sky motel is so damn good

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 7 October 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

this is a good album. is she even capable of making a bad album? I've never heard one.

akm, Sunday, 7 October 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link

like, all muses albums, all her solo albums, the 50 ft Wave stuff...all of it's great. some greater than the rest obviously but I will always listen to one of her records all the way through.

akm, Sunday, 7 October 2018 03:16 (five years ago) link

btw did she play everything on this? I can't find any decent credits or liners online. Who sings backup on Halfway Home (my favorite on the album; I listened to that on repeat 4x yesterday)

akm, Sunday, 7 October 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

if you ask her on twitter she'll probably tell you!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 8 October 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

My song of the day was "Gin". I heard it on a radio podcast walking home after work without knowing who it was and I thought I know that voice from when it was not as broken (which is by no means bad). Great song which catapulted me back into the early nineties. The Throwing Muses was one of the first indie bands I got to know. In the podcast the radio dj said something about her being bipolar. I hope the music helps her to get through the day.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 8 October 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

she did a recent interview where she said it turns out she was not bipolar, she has some kind of deep PTSD from childhood that manifests in different ways, mainly through music; and that she often has no recollection of writing songs, performing them live, or even knows what they mean.

akm, Monday, 8 October 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

"Gin" is great yeah; my favourite from the new LP.

btw did she play everything on this? I can't find any decent credits or liners online. Who sings backup on Halfway Home?
Mostly all done by Kristin but there are five other credited performers, three drummers and two bass players - one of which, Chris Brady, is also credited with backing vocals.

Jeff W, Monday, 15 October 2018 11:26 (five years ago) link

I should go buy this rather than listening off apple music.

akm, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

the new album is incredibly good, glad Sky Motel was brought up because it's the clear predecessor here

("Gin" is from the Crooked sessions from when it was called Speedbath, FWIW; maybe one day we'll get "Around Dusk" released)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

(actually, "Gin" was intended to be a Throwing Muses song? or at least it was back then https://www.kristinhersh.com/gin/)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Seeing her tomorrow for the first time. Can’t fucking wait.

Mule, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:24 (two weeks ago) link

highest recommendations for Rat Girl, just a great book

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:31 (two weeks ago) link

God I love her

Mule, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 19:44 (two weeks ago) link

same

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:02 (two weeks ago) link

I have her book about her relationship with Vic chestnutt but I couldn’t get very far. Anyone else read it?

Comfortably numbnuts (Heez), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

I haven't, but I can second the Rat Girl recommendation, it's an amazing memoir. I need to read the more recent one.

Hips and Makers finally getting a very overdue vinyl reissue (along with Strings) for RSD this year.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 22:49 (two weeks ago) link

Never got around to Rat Girl, but I will

Mule, Thursday, 4 April 2024 07:41 (two weeks ago) link


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