C or D: Sunny Day Real Estate

What about the Fire Theft? The relative silence about that album from the usual places makes me think it must have sucked.

really good band
excellent flair for melodic songwriting
i guess the emo affiliations tend to scare people off

play this stuff to an emo kid of today and they would piss their pants with laughter

But who wouldn't piss their pants with laughter even looking at an emo kid of today?

he thinks "i gave her my heart. she tasted my soul. now she's gone again."

I pretty much love these guys btw and I'm shocked nobody mentioned "In Circles" itt as I think it easily trumps "Seven" as their best thing

SDRE is one of my absolute favorite bands ever. Period.

"In Circles" rules obv.

I once bought one of their CDs, but quickly exchanged it for another.

in circles is fine but i still prefer seven

was listening to this album again recently for some reason

"The Prophet" is my favorite SDRE song. I think I'll take "Seven" over "In Circles" but "Grendel" is the one I come back to the most on the debut.

"Sometimes" is fucking dope

Seven over In Circles. How it Feels to Be Something On over either of them.

secret reunion show kickoff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-fzrtV8_KI

Today's a really good SDRE day.

Just listened to Return of the Frog Queen yesterday and remembered that these guys had a Record Store Day 7" this year that I forgot about.

It's on Spotify. Good song. Too bad they never pulled another album together.

I had completely wiped The Fire Theft from memory. I'm sure it must have at least mildly excited me in 2003, but stumbling across it on wikipedia today was like completely new information.

"heaven" off the fire theft record is remarkable

The other night I got a nostalgic urge to listen to SDRE's second album, because I was nuts about them in high school and beyond. I listened to it all the way through, but felt distinctly underwhelmed. Maybe one song on it sort of did anything for me. I will reserve judgement until I re-listen to the first one. But agreed that 'seven' is fucking awesome.

― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Monday, November 25, 2002 1:56 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

similar nostalgic urge last week and came up with different results. The 2nd album (always my favorite of the two--never bothered with anything post-breakup) holds up for me. It's so oppressive and gloomy. I also noticed (maybe for the first time) how good the drumming is. No wonder Grohl tapped that guy to play in Foo Fighters.

Pushed my luck and revisited Diary, which, as stated many times upthread, starts out strong, but really fizzles off after that. Still, good "sound" on these records. They're very of-their-time, but in a good way.

Yeah, William Goldsmith is such an incredible drummer, especially on that second record (which is still one of my favorite records).

Post-breakup, still think How It Feels is brilliant, but that's where I get off the boat.

I guess I should hear that one, a lot of people seem to like it. I felt like I'd sorta 'outgrown' them at the time or something, they just weren't at all on my radar by that point

It's a totally different vibe from the first two but it's a very very good record.

I never really listened to this band, but this was a pretty good/intense interview about SDRE and being miserable in Foo Fighters.
http://www.thetrapset.net/094-william-goldsmith-sunny-day-real-estate-the-fire-theft/

How It Feels is no question their best record. Nostalgic for the first two from time to time, but I still actively love that one.

xp Wow, I'd forgotten about The Trap Set! Crazy that they're up to 94 episodes now. Lots of digging to do.

Just got tickets for the Return of the Frog Queen 20 year anniversary tour. Feeling old rn.

so like, the rising tide, which tt has basically just forced on me, is a ridiculous masterpiece

how had i not heard this

tt you've known me for 4 years almost to the day

j'accuse

Apparently I thought it was more urgent for you to hear Sugarcult or something I’m sorry.

oh god i’m so glad you love the rising tide lj

Have never been able to get into Rising Tide as much as the other SDRE albums but I'll keep trying.

^ Me on the emo poll thread - it's now one of my favourite albums of the '00s.

she's in myyyyy heeead

it's the law that you have to tell me what you think of the fire theft and/or jeremy enigk's solo career after this

the fire theft album: it's nice and pretty, doesn't blow me away, but then again I'm only halfway through it so it still has time

as soon as I posted that the album got better haha

lol absurd epic closing track thrown in to tempt the lower demons of my nature

oh no it's a hidden track job WHY DID EVERYONE DO THIS

This all seems... bizarre. I'd love to hear another SDRE record though.

https://pitchfork.com/news/drummer-claims-dave-grohl-is-blocking-unreleased-sunny-day-real-estate-album-bandmate-denies-it/

the goldsmith/grohl beef drums on

In The Trap Set interview - which is a good listen - he is kinda pissy about Grohl, with good reason imho and interestingly very direct about how Dan Hoerner is apparently a terrible person, also a lot of his family seem to have had battles with alcohol with tragic results, so perhaps he's some kind of grudgeful drunk poster.

I knew he held no love for Grohl, the supposed "lost album" was a new twist to me.

one day in the late 90s i was minding my own business reading a SDRE interview, and then william goldsmith starts describing his approach to playing drums, and that with every snare hit he's trying to "crack the earth" so that his dead sister might one day rise up through it... i swear that quote flashes thru my mind monthly

https://www.spin.com/2022/01/sunny-day-real-estate-2022-reunion-tour/

!

the lost album goldsmith was rambling about years ago was just their unfinished attempt at recording a new album after the 2009 reunion, right? it was pretty well-established that they'd written new material & tried to record it after the reunion tour but the sessions didn't end up going anywhere for whatever reason?

Wow, after hearing Will Goldsmith talk about Dan Hoerner on that Trap Set podcast a few years back, I figured they were done forever.

I think he may have also talked about the "lost" album in that interview, too? iirc, it was just the sessions that "Lipton Witch" came from; I think they had a few other half-finished songs before they split again.

i didn't become a fan of this band until How It Feels which I still rank very highly; I saw them on tour for the Rising Tide and thought it was great, so I'll likely check this out.

XP - That was my first thought too, he was very robust about Dan, to say the least.

weird, I really hated the Rising Tide up above, but now I think it's excellent.

It's their best album.

Rising Tide is all time. What a masterpiece. That album was my introduction, and nothing I've heard from them topped it.

It was my favorite of theirs last time I thought about such a thing. That was a long time ago, though.

Wow i think i just “never got to” Rising Ride, tho I liked HIFTBSO— this is v good.

There is a vocal tone and like, guitar crescendo thing going that now makes me think of manchester orchestra a lot.

Rising Tide is a prog masterpiece

They play Denver Dec 4. I am v poor at going to shows, but damn, I think I am there. Reports?

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/7583-the-rising-tide/

what if a brent d review is the reason i never got to rising tide omg what if that

xp FYI, their December dates were just posponed, due to drummer's broken hand (we had tix for Dec. 12).

ah shit but maybe for the best since I think that fell during finals week for my kid and he wanted to come with me.

pretty great last night, guess I should finally hear the albums after Diary

they're doing a diary 30th (oof) anniversary tour and putting out a rerecording of the album

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2dA-oWPQOS/

this clip of the rerecorded "blanket was the stairs" sounds excellent

I'll have to check that out, highly, highly suspect of bands rerecording stuff like this.

I remember the 15th anniversary show at Metro in Chicago - one of the band member's wives was pregnant and it was the first time Metro had a no smoking policy for a show. My how time's change.

the circumstances of this re-recording are a little weird, not sure how i feel about this happening when nate mendel isn’t currently in the band (whatever interpersonal and professional conflicts that required them to reunite again without him notwithstanding, i don’t pretend to know about these things, glad they’re touring it’s awesome) and god knows the reason i love diary and LP2 is the particular dynamic of these guys playing together, maybe the first time i heard a non-jazz record where i felt like a whole world was being opened up just through interplay, a feeling i think is a little lost on the records they made when they first reunited without mendel, even though both of those records are insanely good

but also that studio clip sounds dope, and one of the flaws-that-is-a-feature of diary is how ruined his voice is from the tour they did right before recording it, and i’m interested in how he’ll approach it with a not-ruined voice. notice he’s taking a lower register in the verses which admittedly sounded painful to sing on the og

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQa_CrPHdX0

the new song is good, shame there's not more on the way

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL55ljbjKy_Qf46TyePVwfd9MSLppszHV1

i went digging and some instrumentals from the unfinished 5th album sessions during their last reunion leaked a while ago and the band's confirmed they're real. hoerner's said he's not happy with the songs at all though so they're probably never finishing or releasing those.

that "new" song (it dates back to how it feels) is outrageously beautiful