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this isn't "pretty woman", is it?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone remember Axl Rose dissing him on stage once? What was that about?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

axl thought beatty seriously misrepresented the real clyde barrow.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonnie & Clyde is incredible!!

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

http://movies.nnov.ru/Covers/Dick%20Tracy.jpg

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From time to time I've been tempted to do a "Taking Sides" thread RE: Beatty Vs. Shirley MacLaine. It'd be a draw for me.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

As John McCabe said, "I got poetry in me."

http://www.cinemastudio.com/moviegallery/bulworth.JPG

"You got half your kids are out of work and the other half are in jail. Do you see ANY Democrat doing anything about it? Certainly not me! So what're you gonna do, vote Republican? Come on! Come on, you're not gonna vote Republican! Let's call a spade a spade!
I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, you're NEVER gonna get rid of somebody like me!"


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh my god Dick Tracy, I actually sat and watched part of that, like the middle thru the end, not that long ago. WTF? What the hell are Al Pacino and Dustin Hoffman doing?!

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Aside from Donnie Brasco, one of Pacino's few ace parts in the last 20 years! He's GREAT! misquoting Jefferson and Nietzsche!

And Beatty actually made a comic-strip movie that LOOKED like one, instead of these gr*phic n*vel basement-boy jizzfests. I love when he says to Tess, slipping out of the opera, "I'll be back, I wanna see how it comes out."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

morbius otm its a great great movie

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You guys are misunderstanding my "WTF are Pacino and Hoffman doing?" in my post. I do believe I'm on record here somewhere as stating that this is possibly the only role that Pacino has taken in 20 years where his bizarre shoutingacting truly works. But still! WTF!

Re: comic strip movies that look like comic strips, be more specific about what you are talking about because you'll find that a lot of these movies DO look like exactly what they are based off of. Just because they're not the versions you like doesn't mean they aren't imitating the look of the comic. This is not a defense of Frank Fucking Miller, just a comment. Though I do have to say I preferred Batman Begins >>>>>>>> Tim Burton's first Batman flick.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

He's not a great actor and his persona doesn't quite work for me, but he can be a good actor, has led in some great movies, and I like him for his (limited) efforts and charm-despite-the-smarm.

Bulworth is not a great movie, and I find its attitude too diffident/distant/cynical/unserious (it's what you think about politics if your major role in it is going to Hollywood events and sending people lots of money), but at least he's trying and I liked it a lot the first time around (it doesn't hold up that well).

Dick Tracy is ridiculous, but I think seriously underrated. Also perhaps the role best-suited for him.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

OTM about Warren Beatty being the perfect Dick Tracy.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Batman Begins >>>>>>>> Tim Burton's first Batman flick.

wrong!!!! you just like bale more than keaton!!!

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batman forever is seriously underrated

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If that was the only thing going for it in my mind then that awful thing with George Clooney as Batman would be my favorite film of all!

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

It doesn't help that I find Halle Berry and Oliver Platt v. v. annoying.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Dick Tracy is great, for all the reasons noted by Morbs and Ally!! I got a soft spot for Beatty, but Bulworth seemed to try a little too hard to me...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Halle Berry and Oliver Platt ARE annoying.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Bulworth is a piece of shit.

Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Hair washing machine!

http://www.famouslocations.com/images/movies/shampoo_.jpg

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

dick tracy is great! better than batman (88-97 version). batman begins is a shade better, though.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Warren Beatty is what George Hamilton would be if he genuinely knew how to smile.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

he's looking more and more like arlen specter these days

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never understood what George Hamilton is famous for.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Talk about Reds, people.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

In circa 1966 the whole Free World was agog to learn that the daughter of the President of the United States of America (I think it may have been Lucy Bird) was dating a bona fide Hollywood movie star (he was upgraded for this role) named George Hamilton. Our boy George (see what I did there?) punched his ticket for the Fame Train and never looked back.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never seen Reds. I'll get around to it one of these days...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

so George Hamilton has actually acted in movies? this is news to me.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Hamilton played Hank Williams.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

godfather III!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

He was tolerable as the structuring central cipher around which revolved Brigitte Bardot and Jeanne Moreau in Viva Maria!.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

two french croissants and a slice of american cheese

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Love at First Bite!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

discussing Hamilton on a Beatty thread is like discussing Dick York on a Nicholson thread.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a pretty weird metaphor, even though it seems to be completely correlary.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"you just like bale more than keaton!!!"

A sure sign of insanity.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Happy 70th!

Also I have Reds outta the library.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 30 March 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd like to know who the Witness guy in Reds is who says of WWI-era socialism, "It didn't affect me personally, I like baseball."

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Bulworth is not a great movie, and I find its attitude too diffident/distant/cynical/unserious (it's what you think about politics if your major role in it is going to Hollywood events and sending people lots of money)

lol gabbneb

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

'shampoo', 'shamPOO' more like.

banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I FUCKED 'EM ALL

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I skimmed through a biography of the man in a bookstore...one of the best examples of how being successful in yr chosen field, being filthy rich, and having virtually unlimited access to yr choice of sexual partners does not equal "happiness"

dell, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

it's the ultimate boomer movie

xpost

banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

great movie. not as good as McCabe and Mrs. Miller tho. Or Bonnie and Clyde.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Still one of the best dressed men. I would kill to have his tailor who is oddly, Frank Foster, the now famous tailor responsible for fashionable skinheads (e.g. Nick Knight).

Allen, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I could never understand what made him so desirable. Does he stick $20 bills in their vaginas?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

...

banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

beatty seems pretty chill, seems to have had an enviable life and career if that's the kind of life and career you're going for.

nomar, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

lol sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities Morbz, my wife just finished Shirley's daughter's autobio which does not paint a flattering portrait. I am a big fan of both of their bodies of work in general fwiw.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

i'm sure Shirl can be a pain in the ass, i watched Letterman

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

less pain in the ass and more like narcissistic dimbulb

Shirley MacLaine is cool

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

that movie is already gone from NYC. The box office numbers are really awful.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Rules-Dont-Apply#tab=box-office

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 December 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

I missed the screening; saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

The film ended up grossing $1.6 million in its opening weekend (with a five-day total of $2.2 million), finishing 12th at the box office. It marked the worst Thanksgiving debut ever for a wide release and 6th worst opening ever for a film playing in more than 2,000 theaters.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

this is like a rock v hard place deal except neither choice is as interesting as a rock

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

Rules Don't Apply
Budget: $25,000,000
Gross: $3,580,979

Ishtar [adjusted for inflation]
Budget: $117,034,290
Gross: $30,588,910

Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

(I know he didn't direct the latter, but just for comparison's sake.)

Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

$25M is low-budget for a period piece.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

I've been meaning to watch Reds for years and years. I'm unlikely to have 4 hours to spare to watch it in one go, would it ruin it if I tried to watch it episodically?

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link

if you must, I would go with halves; there's an intermission. It's only 3:20.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link

That sounds do-able, thanks Morbs.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets (stevie), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Rules is not bad! All three principals are pretty good, in fact. Steve Coogan has one very funny scene in a cockpit while HH sings a Jolson medley.

Steve Mnuchin was a producer and has a wordless cameo (alongside a small gem of an Oliver Platt performance).

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 05:36 (seven years ago) link

Beatty literally closes the curtain on his career in his last scene, works as a masked autobiography in many ways.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

80 today!

the Karl story:

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/02/warren-beatty-pauline-kael-love-and-money

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

didn't know the lead actress in RDA was Paperlate's daughter

good take here:

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2016/1123/Rules-Don-t-Apply-Warren-Beatty-s-directorial-return-is-disarmingly-light

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

rewatched Dick Tracy; love Pacino, Headly, the production design/effects and most of the jokes.

don't like La Ciccone and the loudness/replication of Burton's Batman in the last half hour (down to Elfman scoring it).

this is the best Sondheim song in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUZgORmrSY

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link

Yeah thats about how i feel about it too

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link

Madonna has one good line reading where she sez about the Kid "What a cute little boy," like she wants to smother him.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link

She is a terrible actress

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link

well she's not even a compelling presence in this

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

This works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJN5DO4Lvx0

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/beatty-rules-dont-apply-test-audience-ethnic-1202935368/

“I’m not looking for acclaim for the movie,” wrote Beatty, who is 81. “The movie will be recognized for what it is. It’s that I want money to come back to our investors to cover the P&A shortfall, in order to compensate them for the mistake of our finally gambling on a higher awareness for a movie starring two unknown young people and an old guy who hasn’t been on the theatrical screen for 15 years.”

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 September 2018 05:57 (five years ago) link

That article is great, I loved Rules Don't Apply

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 07:50 (five years ago) link

“One possibility discussed was that the public was just not interested in the film, its stars, or its subject matter.”

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 14 September 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

My conclusions about Reds since my second viewing in 2006 remain unchanged: a confused movie made by a guy attracted to capital-I-ideas filtered through Old Hollywood notions of chivalry and moviemaking. When Jack Reed is burning dinner or bumping his head against chandeliers, I want to bury the DVD in the backyard. While the film captures Reed's magnetism (from what I've read about him), it misses his energy and commitment. To a degree I admire that Beatty, a product of the mummified remains of the studio system, conceived of Reed as a passive force, to the point of being topped by Lousie whenever they fuck often in the second half (their sex drives increase as the Revolution triumphs, yet anothe of the film's howlers).

Also, the film has no clue what to do about Louise Bryant. Is she untalented, hence her anger? Is he a frustrated talent? Is he Annie Hall, yelling "fuck" and throwing things and gibbering la-dee-da to herself?"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link

*is she

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:11 (five years ago) link

Just now had a vague memory of something about the way the talking heads were presented in Zelig being a critique of the way this was done in Reds.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 02:43 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Proud to say I still have my Rules Don’t Apply cocktail glasses, commemorating a movie I enjoy https://t.co/XKqX2P3kcd pic.twitter.com/SDZiLZork1

— Splat! Prigge (@mattprigge) October 25, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

It’s a good movie

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 October 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

https://screencrush.com/warren-beatty-dick-tracy-special-2023/

In Dick Tracy Special: Tracy Zooms In, TCM host Ben Mankiewicz invites film critic Leonard Maltin over to his office as he prepares for a Zoom call with the famous comic strip and movie cop, Dick Tracy. Tracy (Beatty) calls Mankiewicz and Maltin on Zoom — Beatty is seated in a black void while wearing Tracy’s trademark yellow hat and overcoat — first to compliment Mankiewicz on an interview he did with Beatty for TCM some time earlier. Then “Dick Tracy” explains his issues with the movie Beatty made about him in 1990, while he watches clips from the film. A good five minutes of this 30 minute show were literally just Warren Beatty dressed as Dick Tracy watching the Dick Tracy movie while muttering things like “Yes! Yes, that’s good!” and “No! No! That’s terrible!”

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2023’s Tracy Zooms In special builds to Maltin adding the “real” Warren Beatty to the Zoom call, and — as Mankiewicz and Maltin look on in disbelief — the two Beattys get into a rambling debate about the Dick Tracy movie and moviemaking in general.

it's fucking great and is making me wanna rewatch Dick Tracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwYcwB_deG8

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2023 07:58 (one year ago) link

if i were warren beatty, i would get two dozen of these outfits made and not wear anything but
he should also go back to dating madonna

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2023 07:59 (one year ago) link

excellent, thx. this was the first movie i saw in a theater in america and still one of my favorite movies of all time.

The field divisions are fastened with felicitations. (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 12 February 2023 08:41 (one year ago) link

Everytime Madonna comes onscreen=Tracy: "No no no..."

30 seconds no more Dick

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 February 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link


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