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had a not-so-quick look through the source to see what it was going and it ended up as the usual window.open call with a hard-coded (rather than computed) window size (exactly the right size for the embedded shockwave widget) and a url too long and with too many arguments to fathom (time in seconds, requesting url, language, match number etc).

koogy wonderland (koogs), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...
So I updated to 2.0.0.3 and I can't get a drop menu to come up anymore. I've disabled my extensions, I've gone into safe mode, and I've reinstalled Firefox twice. Got a guess?

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Delete the firefox, it is called Mozilla I think folder in Documents and Settings, and then reinstall. Back up all your bookmarks before you do this and then maybe try a fresh install.

svend, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The last paragraph of this will tell you how to do it.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Uninstalling_Firefox

svend, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Uninstalled and reinstalled. No drop menus. I don't want to go back to Explorer, but at least I can save a freakin' link there if I wanna.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i had this problem on my mom's computer (using the OpenBook extension/add-on) but uninstalling/reinstalling seems to have fixed it.

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

uninstalling/reinstalling firefox, that is

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally figured it out (thanks to the Mozilla "Knowledge Zone" actually.) All I needed to do was go to about:config and click on the ui.click_hold_context_menus feature. Apparently, the default Firefox function for Macs is Control + Click to activate the drop down.

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...

I am pretty much at my wit's end here -- sometime between when I went home on vacation last Wednesday night and when I came back on Monday, apparently Firefox decided that working on my machine was too much for it beyond ten minutes at a stretch. I'm running 2.0.0.6 on Mac OSX 10.4.10 -- without fail, sometimes almost promptly, it starts choking up and taking forever to load pages, switch between tabs, even respond when clicked on. I've seen the spinning ball far too often and have had to force quit god knows how many times. Regular quitting and machine restarts and more have had no effect, and again, absolutely nothing like this was giving me a problem before vacation and it's been nothing but grief since. A cursory examination of the bug report list mentions a couple of problems that might be mine but I just don't know. Anyone?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Safari.

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Considering I switched from Safari a long time back, I'd ask for other suggestions.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, I just can't understand the love for FireFox. Safari is just so stable and loads a lot quicker than FF for me. Why did you switch anyway?

Have you tried to just reinstall it?

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Or empty the cache?

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned is that not sounding like a connection issue, rather than a browser problem? i guess you've already looked into that eh.

it sounds very similar to a problem i get sometimes, again with firefox, but further checking shows that IE5 produces slow internet pages. It sorts itself out after a day and i usually just put it down to crappy broadband service.

i'm away for the next 5 days and you can bet your bottom dollar that my computer will fail to work on my return, it usually does.

Ste, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yeh this is happening to a lot of people, i've read that there are problems with displaying flash & memory leakage. some people have had success disabling the antiphishing. have you tried Camino?

zappi, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

you know when you try and download something big on firefox.. it seems to freeze the whole thing (and any other firefox window), while the download is in progress (and not tell you what progress it's making) until it's over.. is there a way to fix that??

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Safari is just so stable and loads a lot quicker than FF for me. Why did you switch anyway?

Because I was experiencing the reverse. Cache-clearing so far has had no effect but I'll try it again -- as it is I need to head out to work so I won't have a chance to futz with it further until tonight.

Stet, good point about the connection issue but that doesn't seem to be it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

this is on windows xp

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean, this is on windows xp xpost

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I had this on my Apple as well.

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

i've got exactly the same OS X/FF combo as you, ned, and i have to say it does grind to a halt every few days or so ... nothing quite as frequent as you're having, though. how many extensions have you got running? have you tried chucking them all?

i really don't like safari at all, i have to say. it seems oddly unresponsive and slow.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

can keith not write us a web browser?

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

actually: checking mine just there, it seems greasemonkey, foxytunes and a couple of others were in some odd limbo-like state (presumably since the 2.0.0.6 update) ... the icons in the add-ons menu were greyed out. hmm. i've uninstalled them because TBH i never use the things.

go on, check you've not got some rogue FF extension fucking shit up.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm glad (okay not really glad, but you get my point) to see others having the same issues with Firefox. Within the last two weeks my Firefox has recently started grinding to a near complete halt whenever I'm downloading a file (exact same problem as ken c).

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i have that downloading problem all the time, i just thought it was shite programming

Ste, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

hmm: i don't notice everything else grinding to a halt while i'm downloading, but it does do so *before* i download (for up to 20 seconds). like ste, i just thought it was sloppiness.

still prefer it to safari, though. sorry.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I've had problems with FF using up tons of CPU/RAM for no apparent reason lately (on XP), might well be extensions doing it, should try uninstalling and see if it helps.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

> you know when you try and download something big on firefox.. it seems to freeze the whole thing (and any other firefox window), while the download is in progress (and not tell you what progress it's making) until it's over.. is there a way to fix that??

is this mostly pdfs? if it is then PDF file association (within firefox) from 'use this plugin' to 'use this application'. now they'll download in background then start acrobat rather than freezing friefox for the duration.

might work with other file types as well.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Since Monday, Firefox crashes every time I try to reply to an email from my gmail account. Why?? I went on vacation for a week and since I got back it's fuxored. IT IS A MYSTERY DOT GEE EYE EFF.

Laurel, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't imagine it's any of my extensions, I would have noticed that before my vacation break as well and haven't added any since. Still, I might experiment.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

laurel: have had something similar with bad swf files embedded in a page, mostly ads. use adblock to block them. (you might need to view source in a different browser in order to find them)

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

it's with any kinds of files koogs, and i wasn't even trying to launch them, just to save to disk. the program will just freeze for the duration of the download and then eventually comes back with a little popup on the bottom right corner and say "All files download is complete", and bring up the downloads window.

it's like somebody forgot to run the download process in a background thread.

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

or maybe it's the way firefox wants to tell me "You decided to download a 15MB file. Good Job. Moron."

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i do that all the time (firefox, winxp...) and it's fine.

it's not me, it's you.

modem problems? virus checker? disk space?

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

there must be SOMETHING, but i dunno what.

disk space maybe but there's definitely more than 15MB.

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

laurel: http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Problem-solving/browse_thread/thread/01835027fc45a73e/e8eece8a4a569b8b?lnk=raot

someone with same problem since last monday. clearing cache, deleting cookie fixed it.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Andy, you are a star. Thank you.

Laurel, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned: maybe try safe mode (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Mac_OS_X) and if that fixes things then start turning extensions on and off one at a time. Failing that, create a new OS X test user account and see if they have the same problem.

caek, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

How dare you be sensible. I wanted to do something like reach into the computer and strangle the program.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

You know what always breaks Firefox for me? The, um, All Music Guide.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Failing that, create a new OS X test user account and see if they have the same problem.

Before you resort to this, it might be worth quitting Firefox, moving ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox to, e.g. the Desktop, thus forcing Firefox to create a new profile the next time you launch it. If this fixes the problems then you're sorted. [If you want to restore your bookmarks, quit FF, find bookmarks.html in the old Firefox folder which is now on your Desktop and copy it to the same place in the new ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox folder, and restart.]

caek, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I was having system-wide slowness issues, Firefox downloads, Photoshop, you name it -- I finally just moved up getting my new system by eight months.

Ned, run Activity Monitor and see if there are any unidentified processes that are eating up CPU. Do you use a CPU monitor widget?

caek's advice is good.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Everyone, you have to remember to *think* in RUSSIAN.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahahaha

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

How often did I see that film on HBO in the early eighties? Oh, quite a few times...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

2.0.0.6 for OS X is hopeless. fucking thing just hung on me trying to open a new tab ... wouldn't mind so much if i hadn't also been 95% through a 100+MB download. "restore session" doesn't restore the download ... i mean, come on, i used to have stuff on fucking OS9 that could resume a broken download. how come shitfox can't manage?

i'm going to hold out for the next update and see if it gets any better. if not, i'll go back to safari, which is also shit, but not *quite* as crash-happy.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I've just gone back to Safari and spent an hour or two researching and installing things that make it work in a way that means I won't miss Opera (Safari Stand for customisable keyword-led searching from the URL bar -- fuck using a fiddly drop-down menu. xGestures for letting me use mouse gestures to go back and forth between pages).

The one thing that really made me switch from Opera was the inability to submit from Scrabulous's messaging box. Funny the things browser choices hinge on.

I'm sure more people would use Opera if its default appearance weren't so fugly.

Alba, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i've become pretty addicted to inquisitor for quick searches - http://www.inquisitorx.com/safari

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Inquistor is *great*, but Leopard Safari kills it apparently. Grr.

stet, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

You want Leopard to be crap?

Alba, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

it was some certificate thing that expired or didn't get signed anymore imo

StanM, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

weird that it affected the add-ons when i thought that stuff only affected things like SSL

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

The add-ons themselves are signed - so if we had an ILXor add-on, it would be signed to show it came from us and not some rando. It was a key certificate in the chain used to check those signatures that expired.

stet, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

note to self: next time firefox wants to update itself, don't let it.

updated and now ilx and firefpx are missing something and everything looks like the 1980s

koogs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

adblock is screwing the pooch. disable it and things are back to normal. linux.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

disable adblock and install ublock origin

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

i already have both 8)

adblock apparently has an update, but i can't work out how to install it, so disabled for now.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

did firefox on android recently get updated with a bunch of jank? i just want to visit websites thank you

wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 29 August 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

yeah, the laatest version for Android is awful -- they discontinued support for almost all extensions and jettisoned a bunch of basic decades-old features like the tab bar, download manager, back button, and about:config. hopefully they'll accede to the demands of the screeching Firefox fanboys and restore some of that functionality with the next update. in the meantime I've switched to Kiwi, which is pretty decent alternative

panburger partner (unregistered), Monday, 31 August 2020 08:13 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm normally quite patient with application updates but fucking hell they really ballsed this up. I've mostly adapted to using the new UI but it's still hanging quite regularly.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:19 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

fuck this garbage browser

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 5 October 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link

starting to think the same

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

i'm guessing this has to do with android users? i'm having zero issues on any of my machines.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

How so? I was hating it recently, lots of crashes, but now I'm having Chrome issues and I think it's just a weird RAM thing or some other app causing issues.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link

Still a ton of stupid annoying stuff in the Android version. Seems like they rewrote lots of the interface and barely tested it. Just typing into this box on ILX and it starts crunching.

Kieran Arse (Noel Emits), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

My issues are with the windows version, albeit on an old (5 years!!!) and somewhat flaky pc:

1) the 'firefox is already running' dialog, needed by no other application in history (though chrome is a famous memory hog, maybe it just ignores orphaned processes)
2) this one is weird - slack and gmail and no other sites take an eternity to load, often it will just give up, the loading spinner will stop though the tab is still blank. multiple refreshes needed to get them to load.
3) i can't read messages in slack threads - it opens the sidebar, doesn't load any messages
4) slack brought it down completely yesterday

seems to be some bad firefox/slack confluence going on, i know the idiots at slack focus on chrome (you can't do video calls in firefox).

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

Slack posted an advisory yesterday, they were having trouble...

koogs, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link

i installed the slack app to my desktop but still run slack in Firefox and that seems to have fixed a lot of those issues

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link

will give that a go, ta.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link

Slack (and gmail, though only about 1/3rd as much as slack ime) is a notorious memory hog. How many workspaces are you using on slack?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

only one!

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

Slack and facebook are the biggest memory hogs. Just closing a tab w/ slack or fb in Firefox instantly drops my overall memory usage w/ 15%, according to my memory cleaner app

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

Desktop Firefox is going thru a shonky phase at the moment imo

The Android version is currently dogshit, as others have indicated

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

in Mozilla's slight defense, the Android version now has a back button and a download manager, but the other issues haven't been resolved (including the lack of a tab bar) and the whole thing still feels like a beta. apparently the latest version of Nightly supports add-ons, but I haven't tried it yet and I'm still using Kiwi for the time being even though it's no longer being updated

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

something i complained about here (back button being disabled when clicking on image urls) is explained here:

https://support.mozilla.org/gl/questions/1254496

instagram and facebook now open in a container in firefox and that ditches all the history / referer details when making the new container. makes sense but i wonder whether i can force it to use a new tab for those links so i still have everything in the original tab.

koogs, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

firefox has been at the crayons again, changing stuff, making it look dumber.

top bar with the tabs in it now looks a lot taller but the favicons and tab names are the same size so you lose vertical space for no real gain.

koogs, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link

yeah that spacing ffs. I had to create a lot more bookmark folders because eff having to scroll to see my bookmark lists

Diggin Holes (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link

it's annoying

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link

had to change that this morning. wordy fix below

about:config <-- in address bar. "accept risk and continue"
browser.compactmode.show <--- set to true. exit about:config. maybe restart firefox.

find 'customize' under 'more tools' in the drop down menu that is an icon that looks like 3 small horizontal lines

set density to compact.

protip-- if you use menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, drag the bookmark toolbar items onto the menu bar from the customize screen

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link

oops! one more important step-- turn off the bookmarks toolbar if you move the bookmark toolbar items up to the menu bar or never use it.

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

hmm, didn't seem to change anything. Although my Density setting was "Compact (not supported)".

Diggin Holes (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

try turning off your bookmarks toolbar

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

ah but it's the bookmarks toolbar i want the compact to affect. Is that not possible to change then?

Diggin Holes (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

i can't confirm it myself because i'm running ESR but apparently setting browser.proton.enabled to false in about:config unfucks things a bit

enjoy it until mozilla inevitably removes it next version

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

There is also browser.uidensity that should be set to 1 (if it isn't already)

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

xp, chih, tried it and things got even more compact :)

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

I think Ste meant the Bookmarks dropdown menu from the menubar was no longer compact. I decided to test disabling all Proton entries in about:config and discovered the one that fixes the issue by resetting to how it was before.

set to false:
browser.proton.contextmenus.enabled

and while were at it we might as well set the entry chihuahuau mentioned to false as well:
browser.proton.enabled

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

i dunno if this is new but i'm forever closing tabs i don't want to close.

the visible tab is highlighted in a lighter colour than usual, the tab the mouse is over is highlighted using a darker colour than usual. it's easy to glance up, see a highlighted tab and hit middle button to close it without registering it was the wrong kind of highlight.

koogs, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 08:30 (two years ago) link


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