Lets talk of BBQ...grilling and what not.

So far my grilling experience is limited to corn, brats, burgers, and fish, all of which I love deeply.

Later tonight = I rub into them a mixture of herbs and spices

tomorrow = I drink beer and watch football while cooking them in my bbq/smoker for 8 hours all the while mopping them with a sauce of herbs, spices, chilli and vinegar.

sunday = roll around the house on my meaty belly

Halloumi is squeaky rubbery Greek cheese. It kebabs well.

It ended up being very good, but it's possible that was the effect of the drugs.

Kielbasa is great on the grill. I like it CHARRED AS FUCK, especially when using wood chips.

Also, polenta formed into thick patties is very very good when grilled. Serve hot with mozzerella, basil, & marinara.

I won't be clicking on that thread at work ta Pink

3 tablespoons red wine vinegar
2 teaspoons minced fresh rosemary leaves
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
1 medium eggplant (1 pound)
2 medium tomatoes (3/4 pound)
1/4 pound feta cheese, crumbled

Prepare the grill so that the temperature on 1 side is hot and the other is just medium-low (you should be able to hold your hand 5 inches about the grill for about 5 seconds).
Whisk together the vinegar, rosemary, and salt and pepper, to taste. Slowly whisk in the olive oil.

Peel the eggplant and cut crosswise into 1/3-inch slices (12 slices total). Cut the tomatoes crosswise into 1/3-inch slices (8 slices total). Place the vegetables on a tray and brush generously with the dressing.

On the grill's hot side, grill the eggplant until just cooked through, 2 to 3 minutes per side, brushing with more of the dressing. Grill the tomato slices for 1 minute per side. (The vegetables should retain their shape.) Transfer the vegetables to a tray as they finish grilling.

Arrange 4 stacks of vegetables on the cooler side of the grill: start with the eggplant, add a slice of tomato, then add some crumbled cheese. Repeat. Cover the grill and cook the stacks or 3 to 5 more minutes or until the feta melts.

*properly = drinking about 5 beers as you cook

1. Bananas.
2. Peel and split banana in half.
3. Chocolate sprinkles (nutella works too) in between banana halves to make a banana sandwich.
4. Wrap in foil.
5. Grill.

Best ever.

WTF.

...last night: Tuna steak. Marinated in soy equal parts soy sauce and orange juice, crushed black pepper, oregano, parsley. Grilled for about 2 minutes a side. FUCKING DELICIOUS.

No! You have no idea what you're missing...

can anyone recommend me a good propane BBQ?

i have a deck now and i intend to make the most of it.

in fact... i am really excited!!!

anyway, not looking to spend a lot of ca$$$h.

As we're talking about budget models without all the bullshit bells and whistles, I'm not convinced it makes much difference.

so they're all pretty much ok within a certain range?

which comes with the best hamburgers?

More money just buys more real estate and stuff like side burners for simmering pots and fancy starters that actually work and junk like that. Hot, fast and cheap will grill a burger, brat, dog, steak, kebab, whatever just fine.

ya.

i want more real estate though so i can indirect-heat more stuff.

dont need side burners or nothin tho

Almost everything has a shelf. Something with two burners so you can turn one off. Any two-burner with a shelf will do you just fine. Decent grills are so cheap these days, you almost can't go wrong. After you pick a propane grill, if you have 4 square feet to put it get a charcoal grill for practically zero dollars.

Also, think about one of those vegetable baskets like here. Those things are baller.

Anybody that tells you that you'll ever need more than this is the kind of liar that says you need a tent to go camping. Seriously, the next step up is a pig cooker.

Just get a Weber kettle, it's not propane but your food will taste better. Use a chimney for getting the coals going; it's almost as easy as flicking the switch on a propane dealie.

ian is VERY otm.

ya i feel that but honestly i work from home a lot and i want to be able to just go out back and grill up a sausage for lunch w/no fuss.

mmm sausage

i have a great butcher and i have the feeling i'm about to get real close with him

ian is so OTM I would like to reinforce that. However finding a supplier of good quality charcoal is key. (The farm I am doing some volunteer work at this weekend produces some very good oak and ash charcoal).

mail me some

i went to buy one but we realized there was no way it would fit in the car and the hos wanted $60 for delivery and fuck that :(

station wagon try next week

I've always been partial the the regular old Webber kettle grill + chimney starter, but someone gave us their extra cheap gas grill last year. I think it might be nice to have one for "real" grilling and BBQ as well as the fast and easy last minute grilled stuff.

I've always been partial the the regular old Webber kettle grill

no doubt! i'm going to pick up a new one tomorrow. the one i have now is on its last legs,i've had it for years.

Supply list: carne asada's busted ass old weber, a bag of kingsford and *maybe* a coffee can with the bottom cut out if you're having a really hard time getting it lit. Good to go.

i am already planning something called a brunch-b-q. i WILL figure out how to grill eggs.

frittata dog.

mmm fritatta dogs.

I GOT ONE.

SO HAPPY.

picked up coils of sausages at my butcher today. told him i'd be back saturday. he said "it's always nice to come visit your butcher!" then he made me an espresso.

"2.5 minutes on each side!" he said. they were amazing.

WONDERFUL DAY.

So, dayo, you wanna buy a grill? Whaddaya wanna do on it? What's yer budget?

I've done ribs on a charcoal grill recently - my heat was too high but they were great anyway. On one side the charcoal, on the other a pan of water. Dry rub only. The vents on the bottom are wide open and the vent on the top is open according to the heat (barely open, as I learned).

Tomorrow is a pork shoulder, going to do it like the ribs but lower heat.

Also, for ribs on the grill I prefer the St Louis style (or Hotel cut) more so than the baby back.

You all are making me hungry. I'm going to have to figure out something to grill for tomorrow.

local corn season is upon us so i tried a cooks illustrated method for grilled corn that i think i like--husk the corn down to the last layer that covers the kernels, snip off the silks, and grill for ~10 minutes while turning frequently. let cool, finish husking, and butter/salt to taste. i am not a huge corn on the cob guy but it seemed to work well. i had a few wood chunks in the fire so the corn got a little smoke which is nice.

Don't really like grilled corn that much in the end. My father was a fresh corn person, a horticulturalist who grew it in our garden in separate varieties to reap the results in multiple waves. He would pick the corn and drop it into our pot boiling on the stove for a few minutes. My mother served it up with butter.

I tried roasting St Louis style ribs in the oven at a low temperature for a few hours, then basting them with barbecue sauce and broiling them. They were fantastic

cad that sounds good. I usually only do corn on the cob 1-2 times per summer, but when it's good, it's good.

good

CAD I peel the husk down to the last level and rub the uncooked corn w butter n olive oil then re cover w husk and grill

corn is the only vegetable i boil apart from potatoes and it's incredible how good it tastes

i love the classic mexican grilled corn too though, with, what is it, mayonnaise and cheese or something?? it can't be 'authentic' i guess but i have vivid memories of being just out of college and eating vast plates of them at veracruz in williamsburg

pretty authentic, tho the OG version uses crema instead of mayo

it's called elote, and there's a restaurant called Elote near me that serves it as a dip:

https://www.azfamily.com/shows/your_life_arizona/recipes/elote-recipe-from-elote-cafe/article_c4156eda-9c46-11e9-9403-1fd2ac5458be.html

Obv not healthy but pretty tasty. Fresh, farm-stand corn is key.

I make a "Japanese" variation with kewpie mayo and shichimi togarashi that I think I got from Momofuku.

If i make any sort of salad or elote or the corn isn't totally optimal I grill it - I just peel the whole thing and cook it til it chars a with no oil or salt. Grilled corn scraped off the cob with halved, seeded cherry tomatoes and chopped basil (and acid / oil / salt) is something I make a lot in August farmers market season.

When I just want peak season midwestern corn on the cob it gets boiled.

We grilled corn last night--probably overcooked a little, the kernels got kinda shrunken--this is where boiling is good because the kernels are so plump and juicy--but the char and smokiness on it was nice in its own way.

Feeling you, jg, on the corn & tom & herb salad. Plus feta maybe?

Corn is tough to get just right on the grill, the best ones I've done are when I pull the husks back, pull out as much silk as possible and bend the husks back into place - really helps the kernels keep from getting overdone.

I like grilled corn with peaches, tomato, feta or goat cheese, basil or mint.

I would eat all of these corn variations

What would you say the typical cooking time (i.e. how long it's hot for) is for a standard charcoal barbecue? I get half an hour max of high direct heat, seems a bit on the short side.

Yeah that seems right. I feel like it's a golden rule of grilling that you always need about double the fuel you think you do. I have a bbq made out of bricks that's big enough to take wood and I feel like I need about a tree's worth just to make enough coals for a meal.

I've been considering getting one of those little 'chimneys' that you pack with charcoal and light to speed up the process. So you could do 2 or 3 batches and only have to wait maybe 20 minutes inbetween each one.

I just got one, it's great, charcoal ready in 15 mins tops, though the coals at the bottom are ready quite a bit before the ones at the top which maybe shortens the overall cooking time. It's a bit bigger than I expected and I had to hastily find somewhere safe to put this large red hot metal tube after it was done.

On low heat I can cook ribs for 2-2.5 hours with one batch of charcoal.

I guess it also depends on what kind/brand of charcoal you use.

yeah it’s really better for low heat i guess isn’t it.

Has anyone tried using a meat thermometer to measure the grill temp? Sounds like it's possible

Yes, this is the one I have:

https://buythermopro.com/product/thermopro-tp-20-digital-wireless-meat-thermometer/

You hang the smaller unit on the side of the grill and run the metal wired probes into the grill/meat.

If your kitchen is close by, you can even have the larger unit there so you can keep an eye on the temp when you are prepping other things.

It's used mostly with true bbq, where you want a looooong low, even cooking temp.

mr veg has one, they work really well!

that looks nice. not sure i grill enough at low temps to justify buying it though. I saw someone suggest sticking a meat thermometer though a potato so you get a surface temp. might just go with the old hand method

How do you set things up for long low heat then?

My grill has two sets of vents. The one on the bottom is open 100% The one on the lid is open about 25%. The charcoal is piled against one side and the opposite side is where the food goes for indirect cooking.

I assume you then add more coals as needed over time?

Yep

How do you set things up for long low heat then?

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For several hours of cooking at 250 degrees, use the snake method:

https://perthbbqschool.com/2020/02/19/how-to-the-snake-method/

that is extremely cool but tbh somewhat daunting, what are "heat beads"?

I think that’s just the aussie brand name for briquettes.

oh ok I thought it was something extra you had to add, thanks

Thanks for that, looks like it's designed for briquettes so might have to wait till I've got rid of this giant sack of huge bits of 'restaurant' lump charcoal that the local garden shop guy recommended to my wife. I have to smash them into smaller pieces with a hammer. I googled and found the 'minion method' which looks a bit more rough and ready and might work with that. Fwiw I have no aspirations to become an expert bbqer, just competent - we're 95% veggie for one thing!

Lump charcoal burns faster and hotter, so it’s better for quick direct grilling where you want some char.