― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
on the downside, i'll be missing the Dizzee Rascal concert as the family is located in Detroit.
― lemin (lemin), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Last year I was informed that seder involved ONE plate with all of the stuff on it, whereas all my life I had pictured individual seder plates for each person. Perhaps that was just in my informant's family? SKOOL ME IN SEDER!
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I would like to go to a seder. I've always felt I was born into the wrong religion (ultra-WASPY episcopalian) and that my true self is a Jew. Kind of like some people are born biologically male but know deep down they are actually a chick.
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I miss all the dead relatives. Not many live ones left too.
xposts
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
So I asked my friendly neighborhood Jew and SHE DID NOT KNOW WHERE MATZAH MEAL CAME FROM! I mean, does it come from a matzah plant? What the hell??????
xpost oooooooh, I LOVE me some brisket!
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Matzah is awful. I refuse to eat it. Unless it's fried matzah, because fried matzah is awesome.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I like to eat matzah (is that what you call the cracker stuff or do you call that something like "matzah cracker?") with butter and a little salt.
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
This is actully the second thread today in which I've seen reference to "pulses." Is this a UK thing, 'cause I have no idea what that is, either!
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link
How does one fuck up charoset? It's the easiest thing to make, that's why we used to assign it to my grandfather.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.paleotimes.org/images/matzo.jpg
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
How exactly is this horseradish used in the Passover sense (creamy horseradish spread on matah=idea I must pursue)?
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Let us now recall the GEFILTE wars from the Rosh Hashanah thread.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
why the fuck would you try to make it out of matzo meal??!??! that would be about as dense as a neutron star.
the only passover kugel is POTATO kugel which is made basically the same way as regular potato kugel, of which im making about 10 lbs of come saturday.
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
10 potatoes, peeled if you wish, grated or food processed, then drained of moisture with a strainer1-2 onions, (or to taste) grated/food processed 3-4 eggs, probably the more eggs, the richer it is1/2 cup matzo meal(/flour if not pascal)1/4 cup oila good amount of saltblack pepper to taste
mix all this together in a giant bowl, put it in a greased pan so that the stuff is about 2 inches high, bake at 350ºF for 1.5-2 hours till nice golden brown on top. I hate when cooked potatoes have any hardness left to them, so I'm going for closer to 2 hours.
pretty easy except for the mass grating of potatoes.
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
i forget what gin is made from. Sake should be ok if your sephardic.
mmm...sake...
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 2 May 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 2 May 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― reno sweeney (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
These are somewhat rhetorical questions, since Hurting's Rule #1 applies.
I had gefilte fish with my lunch four times this week. How can anyone not like the stuff?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― reno sweeney (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
my aunt called tonight asking where everyone was as she had prepared her usual enough food for two dozen people meals
my mother: 'um, passover starts TOMORROW night"aunt: ' oh"
she called her daughter-in-law and is told the same thing
so now who knows what's going on
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Rather than bread, I think I'll end Passover with an assload of beer. That worked out really well last year.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 16 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Isn't this pretty inconsequential in light of crab being non-kosher?
― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― WhiskeyBanjoFishbutt (Jeff), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link
What food is not kosher for Passover and why?
Answer
The Torah instructs a Jew not to eat (or even possess) chometz all seven days of Passover (Exodus 13:3). "Chometz" is defined as any of the five grains (wheat, spelt, barley, oats, and rye) that came into contact with water for more than 18 minutes. This is a serious Torah prohibition, and for that reason we take extra protective measures on Passover to prevent any mistakes.
Which brings us to another category of food called "kitniyot" (sometimes referred to generically as "legumes"). This includes rice, corn, soy beans, string beans, peas, lentils, peanuts, mustard, sesame seeds and poppy seeds. Even though kitniyot cannot technically become chometz, Ashkenazi Jews do not eat them on Passover. Why?
The Smak (Rabbi Moshe of Kouchi, 13th century, France) explains that products of kitniyot appear like chometz products. For example, it can be hard to distinguish between rice flour (kitniyot) and wheat flour (chometz). Therefore, to prevent confusion, all kitniyot was prohibited.
The Beit Yosef (Rabbi Yosef Karo, 16th century, Israel) notes that grains may become mixed together with kitniyot, and one may inadvertently come to eat actual chometz.
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In Jewish law, there is one important distinction between chometz and kitniyot. During Passover, it is forbidden to even have chometz in one's possession (hence the custom of "selling chometz"). Whereas it is permitted to own kitniyot during Passover and even to use it - not for eating - but for things like baby powder which contains cornstarch. Similarly, someone who is sick is allowed to take medicine containing kitniyot.
Interestingly, the Sefardi Jewish community does not have a prohibition against kitniyot. This creates the strange situation, for example, where a Sefardi family could be eating rice on Passover - whereas their Ashkenazi neighbors will not!
What about derivatives of kitniyot - e.g. corn oil, peanut oil, etc? This is a difference of opinion. Many will use kitniyot- based oils on Passover, while others are strict and only use olive or walnut oil.
Finally, there is one product called "quinoa" (pronounced "ken- wah" or "kin-o-ah") that is permitted on Passover even for Ashkenazim. Although it resembles a grain, it is technically a grass, and was never included in the prohibition against kitniyot. It is prepared like rice and has a very high protein content. (It's excellent in "chollent" stew!) You should be able to find it at most health food stores. Of course, it needs to be from a closed container that is new for Pesach.
Some other things - like chestnuts and alfalfa sprouts were not included in the original prohibition of Kitniot.
To learn more, see Maimonides - Laws of Chometz and Matzah 5:1; Code of Jewish Law - OC 453; Igros Moshe OC 3:63.
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't realize that. But if you're eating unkosher food that prepared kosher for passover aren't you still doing wrong?
― WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 17 April 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, I followed the rules of Passover (no shrimp during Passover, or any other time of the year for that matter) but I wasn't consistent with my usual habits (I like shrimp). If the shrimp had been breaded, it would have been a different story. OTOH, I don't buy kosher meat so you could argue that the chicken I ate tonight is just as unkosher as the shrimp I passed up over the weekend.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 17 April 2006 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link
most jews in america don't keep kosher. but passover is a religious holiday and a lot of jewish people want to do something ceremonial to keep those ties to their roots. so they do the "kosher for passover" thing and fast on yom kippur and go on with their lives. i don't think it's particularly hypocritical. it's about having a couple of days out of the year where you recognize those old-world traditions.
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 17 April 2006 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.judaism.com/gif-bk/80389a.gif
― gabbneb, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link
it really is worth it to get the genuine huggable matzah ball. the knock-off ones give you a rash
― burt_stanton, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I always eat way too many macaroons. Favorite are Manichevitz chocolate chip.
I love the Hillel sandwich why because it tastes intersting.
I try to do the unleavened kosher for Passover but usually some Gentile will trick me into eating cake on the last day, arguing with me over when the holiday ends.
what's passover like round your way?
Sometimes (including this year) I visit my parents. We invite the widow over, eat lamb and boiled egg and parsley and matzo ball soup. Then we play bridge, while the dog jumps on the table and eats a golf-ball shaped hole in the honey cake.
I like the idea of the stupid son.
― felicity, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link
it only occurred to me now that the reason the GHMB looked just a bit small for hugging (lol, matzoh ball is hueg) was because it might not be meant for adults. i have to see my sister's plague kit.
i was holding onto the possibility that my mom had invented 'hillel sandwich', but i'm glad it's found elsewhere as well.
my parents are abandoning me for grandma, tho i may join them if i can and the crowd isn't too large already. i might end up leading a seder - lol?
― gabbneb, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link
oh yeah, the hillel sandwich is in the hagaddah isn't it
happy pesach!
― gabbneb, Sunday, 20 April 2008 03:34 (sixteen years ago) link
wtf with bay area "matzah shortage"?! By Saturday night, every single grocery store in town was completely out of matzah and matzo meal.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 21 April 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Matzah blows. Sorry.
-- Hurting (Hurting), Friday, April 22, 2005 11:29 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION.
We didn't do Passover this year, as my Grandparents, who usually host, are on the other side of the country. Usually it's the seder with the reading and the singing and the wine and the plagues and the haroset and the bitter herbs and the matzoh ball soup and family arguments.
― ian, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Plagues are A++++ would visit them on Egypt again.
― felicity, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 06:24 (sixteen years ago) link