My Mom has a Wife! Congratulate me!

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mazel tov!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

Congrats to you & yours!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

Huzzah & Kudos

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

Hurray!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

hurry!

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

Happy happy joy joy, indeed. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

Maria, you don't need to know how men act anyway. ;)

Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

It's true cuz she married a man who doesn't know how to act like one anyway.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

I think the thing that will end up being hard for us to explain to baby Rufus when he is older is how between my mom, maria's mom and her newly betrothed bride, and maria's step-mom, and maria's father's current wife that he ended up with 5 grandmothers. That kid has some sweet Christmas mornings in his future.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

Oh wait, so Maria's yer wife? Rah! Next Rufus should post. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

This whole thing with all these different parts of the country taking on the law right now really feels like HISTORY to me. You know? But the good kind of history for once.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

Scott should write a children's book called "Rufus has 5 Grandmas"

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

here's rufus's post:


xxz tui8ti8tu8ttttn mbnd5 c c6rw9tret bgiuguhtjte

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

I'm very confused.

Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

He hasn't learned to type yet. He was trying to say "tickle tickle goo goo gah gah turkey gobble gobble dada dada mama mama lesbian marriage is a historic and important choice goo goo"

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

is rufus your kid?

Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

Boy. Congrats to Maria's family and all, but shit. Scott has how many mother-in-laws? Ernie K. Doe is spinning...

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

haha, that is awesome! I really feel happy and excited about all this, it's truly a wonder and a good time to be alive, despite all the haters.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

Scott is my hubby. Rufus is my son. My mom is my mom. My mom's wife is my step-mom. My dad's ex-wife is my step-mom. My dad's current wife is my step-mom. Scott's mom is my mother-in-law and Rufus's grandma....

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

This past month has almost redeemed the last three years of American crappiness. Huzzah for Maria's family and also huzzah for K-Doe references.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

I just hope they don't allow same-sex divorce.

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

Just joshing about the divorce thing.

I must say that although I already considered my mom and gf married, I didn't realise how choked up and happy I would feel to have them actually get hitched. To have my mom's partner on the phone and tell her "welcome to the family!" No constitutional amendment can take that feeling away from me.

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link

Aw, that just made me tear up - congratulations to your family!

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

This is moving. Congratulations.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

What lovely news. Congratulations!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

Hot diggety Maria!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

Lovely stuff, and btw fuck you George Bush (and Buchanan etc etc).

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

Congratulations!!

as far as Bush, he can go eat a dick (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that!)

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

Congrats! I have two friends who had a commitment ceremony last year in P-Town and are hoping to legally tie the knot as well. Being Assachusetts and all, I hope it works out for my friends.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

Whoever comes out with the first "Queer Eye's Guide to Wedding Etiquette" or "Dykes Do's and Don'ts to Weddings" book will make a mint. Should you sit your gay friends all at tables together, or intersperse them among the tables with your straight family?

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link

It would include a chapter on how to creatively incorporate pets into the ceremony. Doggy ringbearers?

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

That's wonderful! Congratulations to them. That reminds me, I need to mosey over and see if there's still a line today! (Not that I'm getting married, just that I was out of town last week and have missed most of the excitement...)

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

It would have a chapter on how to tactfully word invitations/announcements to people you never came out to.

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago) link

there are already gay-wedding planning agencies in Canada hoping that George Bush gets his constitutional amendment through so that Canada can rake in that awesome Gay Marriage Tourism Cash!

So, like, I'm torn. Not really, I genuinely hope that gay marriages stay legal in the USA, but I hope that doesn't stop all gay tourists from spending their AMERICAN DOLLARS in my country.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

Everyone knows that Canadians throw the best gay weddings. No worries.

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, you don't gotta wait in line for five hours no way no how. Getting back across the border, however...

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

What does Gay Marriage Tourism Cash look like, anyway? I bet its more well-designed than our boring straight green.

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

insert Queen on currency joke here

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

Is that a loon?

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

uh...I think so. What do I look like, an ornithologist?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

Maria Has Two Mommies

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

Great news, congratulations.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, it's a loon, and yes, Huck looks like an ornithologist.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't have a one-dollar coin to compare it against.
Yeah, I guess I do look like a bird-nerd.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

Awesome, Maria.

I keep checking, but so far the foundations of society have not crumbled here in Denver, and I'm still straight and married. Will advise.

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

Fantastic!
America leading the UK on something positive for once.

mei (mei), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

My mom sent this link to me - includes all the info you need to get married in Oregon

http://www.basicrights.org/

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

Congratulations Maria to you and your family.

Also now I have "Mother-In-Law" stuck in my head and that's a good thing.

Also fuck that piece of dirt Bush.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

I think fucking Bush would be abhorrent and sinful.

Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

They'll always be married in my book. My book is definitive.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim Nashif, head of the Oregon Family Council and the Defense of Marriage Coalition, said a civil unions law would be “pretty hard to swallow” in view of voters’ approval of a gay marriage ban, Nashif said.

Tell me I am not the only one left quizzical by this fool's choice of language?

Oh, and yeah, Happy Anniversary to the happy couple.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

aw snap, i just did a thread on this

kingfish, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

There's actually an incredibly large number of gay marriage threads; I was surprised when I searched for this old thread.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Happy Anniversary to your moms!!! So sweet. :)

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay the anniversary! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Oregon's Supreme Courts Rules Gay Marriages Null and Void
By SARAH KERSHAW

Published: April 14, 2005

Oregon's highest court ruled today that 3,000 same-sex marriages held a year ago in one county were null and void, saying that the county had overstepped its authority and that the marriage licenses it had issued were unconstitutional under Oregon law.

The Oregon Supreme Court opinion drew heavily on a vote by Oregonians last November approving a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman. But the justices also ruled that even before the ballot measure was voted in, Oregon law had rendered the marriages - performed last March in Multnomah County, which includes Portland - illegal.

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"County officials were entitled to have their doubts about the constitutionality of limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples," Justice W. Michael Gillette wrote in the ruling. "But, marriage and the laws governing it are matters of statewide, not local, concern."

The court ruling also said, "Today, marriage in Oregon - an institution once limited to opposite-sex couples only by statute - now is so limited by the State Constitution as well."

The court did not address the question of whether gay couples, in legal civil unions, are entitled to the same rights and benefits as heterosexual couples, a question that is emerging as a new focus of both social conservatives and gay rights groups. Vermont is the only state that legally sanctions civil unions, but both Oregon and Connecticut are debating legislative measures that would make that option open to gay couples.

"Those marriages performed last year are not valid and that, of course, is extremely disappointing," said Rebekah Kassell, a spokeswoman for Basic Rights Oregon, one of the plaintiffs in the case. "But we are going to continue to advocate for civil unions and we are confident that the courts will end the exclusion of same-sex couples from these protections for their relationships and their families."

In Oregon, where Gov. Theodore R. Kulongoski introduced a bill this week to require civil unions under the State Constitution, state lawyers argued before the Supreme Court that while Multnomah County's decision to issue the marriage licenses was unconstitutional, gay Oregonians should be afforded the same benefits as married couples.

"The state's position from the outset was that the fundamental issue was whether or not same-sex couples were entitled to the rights and privileges of marriage, not just the institution of marriage itself," said Kevin Neely, a spokesman for State Attorney General Hardy Myers.

Oregon is one of 18 states with constitutional amendments defining marriage as between a man and a woman, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Legal cases tackling the question of whether gays can marry are winding their way through various state and county courts in at least six other states, according to the Human Rights Campaign, a national advocacy group. They include New York, Washington and California, where gay marriages were performed en masse in San Francisco shortly before the Oregon marriage licenses were granted.

Massachusetts is the only state where gay marriage is legal, under a decision last year by that state's highest court.

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Maybe I'll encourage them to renew their vows here in Massachusetts.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The Oregonian has a picture of a heterosexual couple looking lovingly into each other eyes and celebrating the fact that the gay marriages were annulled: I am appalled at the Oregonian.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Dear Editors,

The photo of the Scheuermanns, a heterosexual married
couple, smugly basking in the glow of the annulment of over
3,000 marriages (on the front page of Friday's paper) was
appalling.

Should racial segregation ever be reinstated in Oregon, I
look forward to seeing similarly smug photos of smiling
Klansmen on your front page, and dispassionate, even-handed
articles on how the state has reaffirmed their most deeply
held beliefs.

--

But no, I don't think I'll send it, as it's a bit hysterical and pointless.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Do send it Chris. It's short and nasty, just like they like'em.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 15 April 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha, jesus what a stupid pic

http://rschrade.brinkster.net/stuffs/squares.jpg

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 15 April 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

You found the pic! Wow!

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think my anger at this article is a redirection of my anger at the decision.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I esp. love that she's balancing a bowl on her head and he has some flowers on his.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

well, they have a pdf of their cover pages up on their website, so I just grabbed a screenshot of it and hosted it. It is just too fuckin hilarious and creepy not to keep a record of it.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/exclude/111355892161340.xml

That's the article about them, for those playing along at home. I love how they don't have the courage of their convictions enough to put a sign up during the campaign (lest their neighbors be offended) but now that it's all nice and legal they're willing to be ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE DAILY NEWSPAPER to rub it in their neighbors' faces.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

chris, you should definatley send that mail!

jed_ (jed), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

it's that damn liberal media at work again!

kingfish, Friday, 15 April 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I want to end the letter "GET ONE SPINE, KTHXBYE!"

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I sent the dumb letter.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Good on you, Chris.

God. I hope that, several years down the line, the anti-gay marriage laws will be considered unconstitutional and will be repealed. Because it's not right. It's just not right. It's not even right MORALLY. How can someone, anyone, deny someone else equal protection and courtesy under the laws we're governed just because of the way they're born? It's as ludicrous and wrong to me as would be a law that restricted marriage to people with blue eyes or something.

The Spirit of Sam Endicott (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 16 April 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not even "because of the way they're born" -- we're Americans, we should be free to choose to get hitched to whoever we want, whether because we're born that way or we stubbornly decided at some point to do it. I mean, closeted gay people should be able to marry women even though they weren't "born that way", right? And radical feminists should be able to marry women even if they secretly prefer men, surely? Even if you can "help it", there's no reason why we shouldn't be free to marry whoever we want.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 16 April 2005 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

(That, and the law should be genderless. Which I often posit as my quest to make abortions legal for men, har har, but it's true.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 16 April 2005 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

somebody once wrote(i think it might have either Tep or Slacktivist) about how "one man, one woman" is an odd concept when hermaphrodites are a physical reality, and a few infants go thru a minor gender assignment surgery(i can't think of the proper term for it) at birth.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Saturday, 16 April 2005 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

that might have been me! I have a big hangup about society's hangup about ONLY TWO GENDERS.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 16 April 2005 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Amen!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:54 (nineteen years ago) link

See, this is the kind of letter the O prefers to print:

All human, not always humane

I have long intended to commend you for your even-handed coverage of Multnomah County's gay marriage controversy. The Oregonian has never failed to put a human face to the issue.

Friday's articles, highlighting the contrast between the happiness of Melanie and Wilf Scheuermann and the despair of Rivka and Lauren Gevurtz [about the Oregon Supreme Court's decision to nullify the marriages of same-sex couples performed in Multnomah County in 2004], were an encapsulation of the disparate perspectives that engender the debate.

And for me, the accompanying photos were a graphic illustration of the most disturbing aspect of this issue -- that one group can take such pleasure in a decision that causes others pain. Just another reminder that, although we are all human, we are not always humane.

D.M. SUYDAM Southeast Portland

Which is a pleasant and subtle slap against the Scheuermanns, but approves of (or even, kisses up to) the O being wishy-washy in the face of bigotry.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents
Sep 23 7:05 AM US/Eastern

ONTARIO, Calif.

A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter.

Shay Clark was expelled from Ontario Christian School on Thursday.

"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.

Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition.

Stob could not be reached for comment by the newspaper. Shay and her parents said they won't fight the ruling.

School administrators learned of the parents' relationship this week after Shay was reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game, Tina Clark said.
Clark and her partner have been together 22 years and have two other daughters, ages 9 and 19.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 26 September 2005 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder what she was saying to the crowd during the game.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 26 September 2005 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Strange that they'd sent her to a Christian school.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Sometimes, Christian schools are the "best" schools in the area, religion or no.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

(not just Christian obviously, other private schools too)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course everyone knows that it's impossible for gay Christians to exist.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

puff of logic etc.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.ocschools.org/

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

There was a thread for this a few days ago which I am too rushed to hunt down right now.

"immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship,"

Or, say, casting judgment.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Gives a whole new meaning to getting stoned in school.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Beth, you crack me up!

Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link


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