― amy, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nicole, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I actually went to Baltimore once, to check out the area the taped the show. I have a picture of myslef standing in front of the station wearing shirt/tie trench coat. I also had a beer at the bar that the cops own in the show-got a cool t-shirt with a chalk outline of a body on the back.
― Tom, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 30 January 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Why did Channel Four fuck with it so much? We never got to see the end.
I think the reason why I love it so much were the details they got so right. There was an episode where a kid gets shot dead in a mall, the parents are called into a room, completely numb from what's just happened. Then someone pops their head round the door and says "Does anyone here own a black buick, reg no. whatever" and the father looks round, distracted from his thoughts and goes "Huh, oh yes that's mine, I'll move it" and goes out to move the car. It was the contrast between the sheer ordinariness of having to shift his car with the trauma of what had just happened to him, and the fact that he just switched into auto-pilot and did it, that made the moment ten times more poignant than it would have been. I'm probably not capturing it very well but the show was full of situations like that - just written and acted with that bit more imagination.
And it's hard to think of a show making better use of a telephone ringtone and a board with marker pens.
Favourite character - Munch because of the way he revels in his unpopularity.
― James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
i find it hard to remember the details about homicide, i just remmeber growing up with it and loving it
ilx regulars will know about my love for oz
― zemko (bob), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zemko (bob), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
One thing I didn't realize when I was watching the show was that the guy who played Meldrick had actually spent a lot of time in Canada, and spent half his time living here. I found that out when I was in the Chapters on Bloor street, walked around a corner into (I think) the photography aisle, and there he was flipping through something. Also found out that he's Molly Johnson's brother. Neat!
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
All the characters on HLOTS (except for those brutal last few seasons, only brutal in comparison to the sheer genius of the first five or six) were SO complete.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 30 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 January 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 31 January 2003 03:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
I know so many damn extras in episodes of HLOTS that it's silly.
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 31 January 2003 10:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― minna (minna), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amy (amy), Friday, 31 January 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 31 January 2003 21:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 31 January 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
The only show i've ever felt emotionally attached to - reading the description upthread about the finales made me sad all over again.
― b zuraw (bryan zuraw), Thursday, 13 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 13 March 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 14 March 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 14 March 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 7 April 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 7 April 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 7 April 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
andy
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 24 April 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 25 April 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 25 April 2003 10:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
btw, i meant the 3rd when i said the 5th. it's saturday.
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9711/12/law.order/
quote...NEW YORK (CNN) -- The last time "Law & Order" joined forces with its NBC partner "Homicide" to solve a case, the shows' detectives were looking for a suicide bomber. The crossover episode proved popular with viewers from both shows, and gave each drama a Nielsens infusion.
So it only makes sense that the two programs' producers would seek out another joint venture. This year, crossover director Ed Sherin says, the teams are trying to solve "the mysterious death of a beautiful model, who happens to be 14 years old." end quote...
that said, this was posted in 1997 so...
and here (http://www.lawandorder-fr.com/guide_episodes/crossovers.php3) it says (in french no less) that this is actually the third:
A ce jour, Law & Order (New York District) compte quatre cross-overs répartis comme suit :
one i didn't know about:6.13 - Charm City 1/2 (Panique dans le métro) dans L&O (NYD).4.12 - For God and Country 2/2 (Pour le bien du pays) dans Homicide.
this was the last one:8.06 - Baby, It's You 1/2 (Mon enfant) dans L&O (NYD).6.05 - Baby It's You 2/2 dans Homicide.
this one on saturday:9.14 - Sideshow 1/2 (Querelles de clochers) dans L&O (NYD).7.15 - Sideshow 2/2 (Dans les hautes sphères) dans Homicide.
isn't google a wonderful thing. 8)
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
Of course they could be showing them the other way round and putting on one of the earlier ones. Either way I'll definitely watch it.
― James Ball (James Ball), Saturday, 26 April 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link
My favourite character arc has to be Kellerman. The handling of Bayliss' character always seemed forced to me, especially towards the end.
― alex in montreal, Monday, 5 January 2004 03:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago) link
― yetimike (McGonigal), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Monday, 5 January 2004 04:16 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:43 (twenty years ago) link
And Meldrick Lewis was the best character.
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
bringing good looking people on to the show was stupid AND dumb.
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 01:49 (twenty years ago) link
Everyone needs The Wire in their life.
I'm just worried that Homicide will be like The Wire, only not quite as good. Only one way to find out, I guess!
― Meg Busset, Saturday, 19 July 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
well, according to the current Tivo listings, on 4th october itv4 here in the UK is showing "La Famiglia" which is episode 1 of series 7 and i think is the first time it's been aired on english tv. (is, as usual, 2:55 in the morning but...)
(last night's was 6.16 The Abduction which is roughly where they stopped the last lot of repeats)
― koogs, Thursday, 25 September 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
In anticipation of this placing on the '90s poll, just thought I'd point out that Amazon at this very moment has an insane sale on the complete series. 60% off, dudes!!!
― Pooping And Crying (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
nice. the wire complete set on sale too
― too shart (am0n), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty much best show ever created.
My husband would agree. We're only through season 1 and started watching s2. But he's hooked. And thinks it's the best show evah.
Me? I really like it. S1 was good, S2 seems even better. I did not like the Gyllenhaal directed ep, I have to admit. Hated it. Not the storyline, just the style of directing was totally off (imo)
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 7 January 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bs-md-simon-cassidy-20120311,0,547379.story
― shur fine (am0n), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
man why did no one ever tell me andre braugher was on kojak
― j., Sunday, 28 April 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/john.mcnaughton.568/posts/874305706035374
RIP jon polito
lots of the obits will be about his coen bros parts but crosetti was his best part
― j., Friday, 2 September 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
in the movie, when everyone finds out about REDACTED, is the sound cut out? my stolen internet copy has silence there except a bit, somewhat out of sync i thought, with kellerman turning up the radio, and then comes back in once pembleton is informed. i thought it could be some extreme technique but maybe it was blotted out for some kind of copyright reason, who knows (the opening song wasn't, though).
― j., Friday, 8 November 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link
huh, i guess it was a copyright thing, happens at the end too
― j., Friday, 8 November 2019 05:19 (four years ago) link
Possibly? I haven't seen it since the original broadcast, but I do remember Beck's "Beautiful Way" appearing prominently over a montage.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
hmm yes must be a copyright evasion thing, i got peter tosh 'pick myself up' in the opening and definitely no beck for the two later montages which were silent.
― j., Friday, 8 November 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link
No idea but I'm glad to see the thread bumped because I love this show so much. "Crosetti" is the best hour of television I have ever seen.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 8 November 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link
I'm rewatching this with my wife, who's seeing it for the first time. We're about 1/4 through season 3 and she hates the first replacement character (Russert). Unfortunately, that's a pattern likely to continue.
The Robin Williams episode co-written by David Simon is even better than I remember. The resolution of the serial killer plotline that opens season 3 unfortunately is ludicrous.
This show is similar to Twin Peaks in that it's a bridge between old network TV tropes and "prestige TV," resulting in a disorientating mix of experimentation with the form and concessions to dopier network-mandated convention.
― Chris L, Friday, 8 November 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link
the episode with Vincent D'Onofrioeoeo in the subway is one of the best hours of network tv in history.
― akm, Friday, 8 November 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Russert is terrible but I like Kellerman just fine. I like his doofy voice and extreme angst.
Yeah, that three-part serial killer thing is ridiculous, but I think the third season is overall my favorite. Just so many incredibly strong episodes.
― Lily Dale, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:49 (four years ago) link
concessions to dopier network-mandated convention
where
― j., Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:57 (four years ago) link
The last episode we watched was the one where Lewis and Bayliss both fell in love with the woman who slept in a coffin. The whole tone was very sitcommy and jarring; reminded me of Twin Peaks season 2.
― Chris L, Saturday, 9 November 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
Thought I would remind everyone that Homicide has a really good Thanksgiving episode, "Hate Crimes." Lewis negs a redheaded lie detector technician into going out with him, Bayliss agonizes about his sexuality, Kellerman agonizes about being Kellerman, Pembleton is a badass as usual, and Munch goes skiing. It's a classic.
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 28 November 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link
i miss watching this live when it first airedfelt like this amazing secret that only cool ppl knew
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 November 2019 06:54 (four years ago) link
we're still cool
― j., Thursday, 28 November 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link
are u tho(jk)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
i… i…
:-(
― j., Thursday, 28 November 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
I just recently realized how good this show is and binge watched almost all of it. I haven't been able to find the final season yet tho *sobs*.
I won't say it's the GOAT, personally I'm still partial to Six Feet Under but The Wire has maybe aged better than 6ft.
― viborg, Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link
I'm definitely going to come back and read the whole thread asap but my hot take is that it's bothersome how the network did their best to kill the show after the 1st season (and continually disappeared great characters for not good reasons).
― viborg, Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
If you haven't seen the final season yet, you probably want to lower your expectations. There's a major drop in quality imo. The series finale is good though.
― Lily Dale, Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
the series finale is quality and the reunion movie is good
mostly i tune out around season 6, though of course season 6 was the one with "subway" so it's not an absolute thing. i find the entire character of kellerman (he lives on a HOUSEBOAT) kind of excruciating, which is also how i feel about the "buying a bar" plotline.
i'm not sure how i feel about the "bayliss is bi" plotline. i think it's a good idea but i don't know that it was handled particularly well. still, i figure they get credit for trying. if the show was made today he'd probably be non-binary as well. the show wouldn't be made today because a show starring mostly "good" murder police wouldn't have room for non-binary characters, just like actual murder police wouldn't have much room for non-binary detectives
that's the challenge about "homicide" for me, at the end of the day i am supposed to empathize with the police, the moral heart of it is an approach to justice that, if it existed in the first place, was gone by the time "the wire" was made
― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 1 December 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
I liked the "Bayliss is bi" plotline because I thought they set it up very well. Every season from Season 2 on had a "Bayliss is weird and conflicted about sex" episode, and then it got clearer and clearer that he was in love with Pembleton, so by the time he actually came out it made a lot of sense.
― Lily Dale, Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
RIP Yaphet Kotto.
― Lily Dale, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link
That cold open where he runs into Munch at the washateria on their day off...
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 05:41 (three years ago) link
rewatching (rip Andre Braugher)havent watched it in years, not since it used to get rerun on Bravo or one of those early rerun cable channelsanyway man i think this show is the ultimate comfy pair of slippers rewatch show for me. it’s all so familliar: the patter, the characters, just so good. that first crosetti lincoln rant and i was home <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2023 05:25 (four months ago) link
started slowly watching this from the beginning and ffs they've got yaphet kotto and ned beatty and andre braugher doing supporting roles and it's so good. 'iguana style'? G
also lol that everyone, including pembleton, refers to bayliss as a kid, when kyle secor is five years older than andre braugher
also ned beatty would never have sent wendy hughes into mortal danger the way j-l picard did
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 06:19 (three months ago) link
fuck, i could just watch yaphet kotto randomly move about the room
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 06:22 (three months ago) link
i love how he delivers his lines, it’s like watching free jazz or something
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 January 2024 06:35 (three months ago) link
also appreciate that it only took 1.5 episodes for me to *hate* that uniformed superior guy who shits on G
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 06:39 (three months ago) link
i don't even know his name, i just know i'm gonna spend like 100 episodes hating him
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 06:43 (three months ago) link
so punchable
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 January 2024 06:44 (three months ago) link
haven’t even mentioned meldrick or munch
i should make a clip of ned beatty, in the premiere, declaiming ‘Detective Munch’ over and over again
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2024 07:13 (three months ago) link