Marina & The Diamonds!

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Florence seemed to come out of the gate with all her shit together, which is fine. It's good shit. But I love watching Marina evolve.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 January 2010 02:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm really hooked on "I am not a Robot" right now.

― _Rudipherous_, Friday, January 22, 2010 8:44 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

^^ This.

t(o_o)t (ENBB), Sunday, 24 January 2010 15:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

But I kind of wish I hadn't just watched that video.

t(o_o)t (ENBB), Sunday, 24 January 2010 15:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

still love this:

m the g, Sunday, 24 January 2010 16:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm obsessed with the mess that's Marina (well not really obsessed):

I actually think this song is the weakest, or at least the most problematic, of the bunch, but in another way it's kind of hard to resist.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think my biggest problem with "Hollywood" is the whole "Oh my god" segment, which isn't funny enough to justify her over-the-top mimicking. It seems too much like a Valley girl imitating another Valley girl or something. Does she imagine more distance from herself than the target of her mockery, or is one finger also intentionally pointing back at herself? I don't really know.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 01:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

That could become an issue in general: she is not necessarily so distance from what it is that she is distancing herself from. Of course, that can also potentially lead to interesting tensions. To quote one of her own myspace comments again: "Can you be within popular culture without becoming it?" Answer: no, or at least generally no. Is that what she wants to do?

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Her site just got professionally revamped, and they seem to have swept away almost all of her more curious/candid blog posts. Shame on you, 679/Atlantic records.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink


_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 28 January 2010 00:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm having a hard time maintaining any concern about whether "Hollywood" makes any sense because on repeated listens I'm actually more and more bowled over by the overall sound. (I bet it would sound better if I didn't understand English though. Not that she doesn't come up with some good lines and stuff.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 30 January 2010 08:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'd be really surprised if she doesn't blow up pretty big in the U.S. (but then again I may not understand the pop world enough to be so sure).

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 30 January 2010 08:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hollywood has some cringe-worthy lyrics, but I've been able to overlook them because I, too, am into the overall sound.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 30 January 2010 08:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

She's too weird for US chart pop (even charts where Grizzly Bear and Vampire Weekend have #1 albums). Her fame will be fueled by BBC dj's and blogs.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 30 January 2010 08:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Obsessions" is still a little lower for me than most of the other songs I've heard (which is just a few) but my favorite part of that is the nonsense syllables in the middle.

Incidentally, it would potentially be great for me if she did end up digging into her Greek heritage and stealing some ideas from Greek music, because there's a lot of accessible greatness in that music. Also, I'd be curious to know more about distinctively Welsh music (which seems to have a lower profile than Irish or Scottish music, for instance).

Of course, she could be just fine without delving into those things--I'm just thinking they could add interest for me in the future.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 30 January 2010 08:53 (seven years ago) Permalink


_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 30 January 2010 11:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've been hearing a lot about her over the last year but somehow managed to not actually hear any of her songs. After going through this thread and watching her video's I'm really impressed. Marina seems like she's doing a similar kind of thing to Florence & The Machine but with much better songs and a much better voice.

Her vocals on Hollywood remind me so much of Lene Lovich which is no bad thing.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 30 January 2010 15:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

The rework/rearrangement she did with Gonzales make me like "Hollywood" quite a bit more than before:

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 31 January 2010 11:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Here's an album sampler video too (that I made from the iTunes clips). If you're on the fence about looking forward to the album, this will push you one way or the other. If you don't want to ruin your first impressions, do not click the play arrow:

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 31 January 2010 12:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't have enough discipline to want to be surprised.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hmmm. Hard to tell what I'm going to think of these other songs based on the snippets. "Numb" sounds promising. "Shampain": most 80s sounding track of hers yet? "Girls" is a bit ironic for me since I sent a link to some Marina to a female friend who made some nasty comment about Marina being a girl and not liking girls. (She generally doesn't like female vocalists, and in fairness to all parties, listens to even less pop than I do. I mean, I didn't really expect her to like Marina at all, so it was somewhat pointless on my part.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Shampain has been my favorite song of hers for a long, long time. Numb sounds so wonderfully fleshed out now compared to its demo form, though. It could become a favorite.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 February 2010 03:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wasn't sure if I was going to get this album but it's currently listed at 4.99 on Amazon so I couldn't resist. Free postage too.

I think Hollywood is my least favorite of the singles she's put out so far, it does have me wanting to play my Lene Lovich albums though.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:57 (seven years ago) Permalink


Assuming you mean GBP? The lowest I can find it on import to the US is 13.99 USD (which is really good for an import, btw).

She's on Jonathan Ross this week, but I'll have to wait another week until it airs on BBC America.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, Lene Lovitch.

She was on GMTV this morning, Marina I mean.

One of those "I'll mention America in my lyrics, and slightly suggest it's not all wonderful but not as much as would put off the USA from me"

Mark G, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

She wrote a blog a long time ago (which Atlantic/679 handlers have conveniently wiped from existence) about she really is obsessed with America, everything good and bad about it. Not in a political sense or anything, but in the consumer and pop culture aspects. Especially the things that are glorified in movies like cheerleaders and muscle cars.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah sorry, should have made that clear it's on I'm not sure if it's a mistake that's a ridiculous price but I got my order in straight away.

The single is apparently just outside the top 10 at the moment so hopefully Jonathan Ross will push her into the top 10.

I saw the performance on GMTV this morning, she was pretty good despite the awkward interview before.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

The lowest I can find it on import to the US is 13.99 USD (which is really good for an import, btw).

Crap, I just pre-ordered it for several dollars more than that. Where did you see that price? (I don't generally pre-order things either, but I just pre-ordered the new Tokyo Jihen, so I am on a roll. Any CDs I'm going to get this month, I'm going to have to wait for I guess. Unless I want to spend money I don't want to spend, but nope, I don't.)

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

I read something where she said her father listened to nothing but classical Greek music (and choral church music--or maybe that was her mother), so I'm curious now what she means by that. Does she really mean classical music, or does she mean classic Greek singers like Kazantzidis and Marinella?

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

CDWOW is where I buy most of my UK imports... reliably cheap.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 February 2010 14:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's a really good album: I'd managed to be aware of all the press without ever hearing a note of music, and I wish I'd paid attention as the singles came out. They are the standouts, as someone hearing the songs for the first time all together, but the rest isn't just filler. Like Mark G, my first thought was Lene Lovich, mannered in the same way, but Marina manages to make it coquettish rather than harpyish, and she uses the mannerisms to serve the songs.

ithappens, Monday, 8 February 2010 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

I still haven't heard the whole album, but I like Alex Petridis's review (!):

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 February 2010 01:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Although it looks like maybe the whole thing is now streaming on her myspace? Anyway, I'm once again listening through what's there to stream, which is a lot more than what was up before.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 February 2010 01:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

don't think there is a bad song on here

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 19 February 2010 01:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I do find that my ambivalence still tends to just get rolled right over by the quality of the songs.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

(Mostly talking about the music, and not the lyrics, though they lyrics are by no means all bad or lacking. Some interesting stuff there as well.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

music is great, but her persona, presence, and of course voice, is what does it for me

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 19 February 2010 02:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

That Petridis review is terrible. He's getting to the stage where his wacky comedic routine completely crowds out any sense he may or may not be talking:

You could argue that this kind of thing represents a reaction to the post-Mariah-Carey-heavily-melismatic-Waaah!-Bodyform! style that X Factor voters seem to believe represents the apogee of distaff vocal achievement. The more cynically minded might suggest that, at root, it's actually no different: a load of irritating ­vocal tics designed to convey a depth of ­emotion that, if it ­actually existed in the ­performance in the first place, wouldn't need a load of irritating vocal tics to convey it. Certainly, you could argue that it's equally predictable. Just as you know that sooner or later the female singer who tends to the heavily-melismatic-Waaaah!-Bodyform! style will sing a song about reachin' for her dreams, so within ­seconds of The ­Family ­Jewels' opening, you're gripped by the absolute ­certainty that, at some point, this album will feature a Brecht and Weill-influenced oompah-oompah song in which the I'm-a-bit-nutty staccato is deployed as if it's about to be declared ­illegal

This is not the work of a man I consider qualified to talk about irritating tics.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 19 February 2010 10:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, well I'm not going to expend any energy defending him, for sure, and I read it quickly, but I thought he got at some of what I am ambivalent about in Marina & the Diamonds.

I should add that some of the time I really like what she does with her vocal theatrics. Once I get the CD I may sit down and figure out when I like them and whether it matters and whether it remains consistent. The bit of friction and ambivalence may actually work to make her retain my long term interest. I don't know.

(This sounds like a surprisingly conservative aesthetic coming from him, but then again he does sometimes surprise me with such comments: a load of irritating ­vocal tics designed to convey a depth of ­emotion that, if it ­actually existed in the ­performance in the first place, wouldn't need a load of irritating vocal tics to convey it. Not necessarily saying I strongly disagree, I just am surprised he would make a comment along those lines. I'm sure I talk that way sometimes, but speaking of emotional depth as somehow "existing in the performance" is leaving oneself open to some pretty tough questions about the place of artifice and the importance (or not) of what a performer is experiencing emotionally during a performance.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 20 February 2010 11:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Petridish is a cock, a.p.u.

He's like the Rodney Dangerfield of comedians (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 February 2010 11:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry I mentioned his name on this thread, since it becomes too much of a red flag.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 20 February 2010 12:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

I feel really loyal to the kind of 'bbc pop' axis this belongs to - this and Mika and Little Boots and maybe La Roux feel very unashamed of what they are, smart quirky pop from people of my age of my age and musical background (Alisha's Attic/ Indie Teenhood/ Raving and Xenomania) - it's flattering to me to imagine someone fifteen, hearing those songs and thinking that path wise and full of mystery.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 20 February 2010 13:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm sort of kicking myself now for downloading and listening to the leaked album. It would've been so much more fun to snag this out of the mailbox, hop in the car, and tear down the road listening to "Shampain" at full blast.

That said, I love this record.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 February 2010 20:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

went to see her live last night. the diamonds were a little polished and perfunctory, I felt. sometimes they felt like a seasoned pub ska band...not a vibe I've got from any of the recorded stuff. was kind of anticipating/hoping for a little extra oomph and dirt in the live setting.

but marina herself was fantastic - really strong, confident performer, and her voice is utterly magnificent. and she came on dressed as a sheep. victory!

m the g, Saturday, 20 February 2010 20:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Since she's pretty much it and there is no identifiable band to speak of, it doesn't surprise me that her live backing band might be an issue.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 21 February 2010 00:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Suprisingly good album - I haven't heard the EPs before, just thought the here's the new Florence Welch, but Marina is much better. Her voice in 'Are You Satisfied?' is totally Ari Up.

zeus, Monday, 22 February 2010 10:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, ari up and finish (!!!!!!)

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 22 February 2010 10:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Timing. I'm thinking timing is one of her big strengths musically (and I mean timing in the music, not timing of career moves or whatever). Maybe I mean pacing, but I think I mean timing in a broader sense. I think it's one of the ways she extricates herself from the problematic corners she sometimes backs herself into. But I just woke up.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Inspired specifically by the sudden switch in "Hollywood" when she sings: "Your mind is just like mine. . ."

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's an interesting way to put into words what I like about her too. xp

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

I love this song so much.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 14:41 (two years ago) Permalink

it sounds like something off Electra Heart

kinder, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Nah, if anything it sounds like it would fit on The Family Jewels, but it's also kind of a new (okay, maybe not new, but more refined) look on her. Hope there's more of this on Froot.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:48 (two years ago) Permalink

i think because it has a similar line to one in 'power and control'

kinder, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:13 (two years ago) Permalink

i think this might be the best song she's ever made

bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:51 (two years ago) Permalink

boring video tho

bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:54 (two years ago) Permalink

I'll always be a sucker for billowy clothes blowing in desert wind.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:59 (two years ago) Permalink

These lines kill me dead

And I've tried to say
Babe, I'm gonna ruin you if you let me stay
You still mean everything to me

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 05:38 (two years ago) Permalink

The song seems to be doing really well on US iTunes which is kind of weird

bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 05:40 (two years ago) Permalink

I wonder where it's getting coverage. Not on any of the sites I read. And I can't imagine it's on radio playlists.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 05:44 (two years ago) Permalink

I wondered if it was on a Superbowl ad or something. She's got a large tumblr fanbase but I'd no idea it was this large.

bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 05:51 (two years ago) Permalink

she's a big hit on our local bowling alley music channels

nxd, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 09:23 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Album apparently leaked a few days ago. I've been asleep at the wheel!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 February 2015 06:23 (two years ago) Permalink

I didn't really have much interest in a new Marina album at the beginning of the year but after hearing I'm a Ruin I had to give it a go. The album is surprisingly great. It seems a little front loaded but I'm hoping the second half grows on me in time.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Apart from a few clumsy lyrics in "Can't Pin Me Down," I think it might be her strongest lp from beginning to end.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Easily my favourite so far. I didn't rate the second album at all.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:11 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm not feeling these new ones much yet. They mostly sound the same to me.

kinder, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:53 (two years ago) Permalink

oh this gets really good in the second half

Thendara Satisfaction (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 09:57 (two years ago) Permalink

or maybe I was mostly thinking of the songs 'Gold' and 'Better Than That'

Thendara Satisfaction (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:15 (two years ago) Permalink

She's written the melody in 'Forget' at least twice before though (it feels)

Thendara Satisfaction (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:16 (two years ago) Permalink

the album is kinda boring to me but i still love "i'm a ruin"

bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:49 (two years ago) Permalink

Wonder if it's her formula that Track 9 on every album is more or less the best & darkest track, Track 2 the monster pop single and Track 12 the big sad late-album epic

Thendara Satisfaction (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:52 (two years ago) Permalink

awesomely consistent album imo
out of the tracks i hadn't heard already, really enjoying 'gold' and 'blue'
'froot' into 'i'm a ruin' is just such a strong run

nxd, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 11:03 (two years ago) Permalink

A lot of people have pointed out the Teen Idle/Forget link:

I guess I'm disappointed with this album overall. I was one of the excited nerds who pre-ordered for my froot of the month (I will commend her on this strategy, if she'd just put up a stream I probably wouldn't have bought the thing) and after getting my hopes raised real, real, high with "Happy" and "Froot" what finally arrived was an AOR break-up record with characteristically drab videos, not mad Nintendo futurepop and gospel vibe ballads. It's probably her most consistent album but I don't see myself returning to it like I do her debut and some tracks of Electra Heart.

Also, how do people like "Gold". Did you guys also like "Florida Kilos" or what

Leonard Pine, Thursday, 19 March 2015 06:00 (two years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

late to the show, but really digging this. the front-end is super strong.

froot - i know i'm probably not the first to say, but getting mad kate bush vibes on this
i'm a ruin - i'll be damned if that isn't one of the best choruses / toplines i've heard all year, and it doesn't even need lyrics. just the yeayyeahs uh-huh. so good
blue - catchy as heck. hot damn when the chorus comes in that 2nd time. so delicious with the 'GIMMEs'

mingalaba, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:50 (two years ago) Permalink

actually got kate bush vibes from i'm a ruin! but yeh i agree, this album is super good

nxd, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm still playing this a lot. Brilliant album.

Blue and I'm a Ruin should have both been huge hits by now.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 27 July 2015 20:33 (two years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

very late to the show.

really like the drums on this album - esp on Forget but also on other tracks.

Sharkie, Saturday, 28 May 2016 16:16 (one year ago) Permalink


Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 28 May 2016 16:23 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

new song just released with clean bandit, way to conflict an imago.

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 23 June 2017 21:19 (four months ago) Permalink

she's dead to me

imago, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:57 (four months ago) Permalink

This isn't terrible.

Also, Róisín Murphy did a lot of dayplayer work like this before coming back with some super strong work of her own, so we'll see.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:32 (four months ago) Permalink

she's dating one of clean bandit iirc

monotony, Friday, 23 June 2017 22:40 (four months ago) Permalink

and yeah I think this song is kinda old also? Like wasn't it being performed live ~2 years ago?

monotony, Friday, 23 June 2017 22:41 (four months ago) Permalink

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