Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

Quinto got Spock all wrong imo. I was sort of into the movie until real Spock showed up, then I realized how lame all these characters were compared to the classic ones, and just spent the rest of the movie being sad that the originals were too old to do any more movies. I'm not even close to being a Trekkie either.

but it was a decent movie. wouldn't buy it, though.

Always, always read this as Young Kirk in Spock

Good film tho! Captures the more freewheeling attitude of the series, and the best parts of the first two or three movies.

yeah Spock in the movie was too bitchy, I know it was young Spock reconciling his human and vulcan sides, learning to keep emotions in check, but it was still weird.

the Delta Vega thing seemed like a huge plot hole to me: Nero & co leave Spock on the planet and tell him they're going to destroy Vulcan, so why does Spock just hang around in the cave when he knows exactly where the outpost is and how to get off the planet? Wouldn't his first instinct to be to get to the outpost and warn the people of Vulcan? I have yet to hear an explanation that completely explains what was going on there.

― musically, Friday, January 22, 2010 1:59 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did they actually tell him they were going to destroy vulcan? i don't remember that. also, maybe he was just staying out of the way as to not influence the past?

I'm pretty sure that's exactly why they put him there and they told him he would have to watch his planet suffer. And it seems inconsistent that he's watch his home planet implode while he helps Kirk and Scotty get back on the Enterprise, since Vulcan was always around in the first "reality".

I'm pretty sure that's exactly why they put him there and they told him he would have to watch his planet suffer. And it seems inconsistent that he's watch his home planet implode while he helps Kirk and Scotty get back on the Enterprise, since Vulcan was always around in the first "reality".

― musically, Friday, January 22, 2010 8:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm sure that's WHY they put him there, i'm just not sure they told him that. maybe once he sees something irrevocably different has happened, he's like fuck it?

but it was a decent movie. wouldn't buy it, though.

I would recommend the blu-ray for anyone who has the setup and likes the movie...It looks incredible and has tons of features. There's a little doc on Nimoy playing Spock for presumably the last time that turns out to be fairly moving. The man himself is in tears as he completes his final scene.

young spock was pretty hot though. ws.

i was confused that they had him watching his mother die when in the earlier movies she is there after he is brought back to life on genesis, etc.

not a star trek dude really, but finally saw this and it was AWESOME.

Totally with this. It's not really a proper Star Trek movie even, it just riffs on the mythology. But's it's my favourite of the lot.

bc of effects?
bc srsly i got misty at the end of wrath of khan and st iv and v are almost like awesome buddy movies. way more enjoyable imo.

No, just because you don't have to have anything but the most fleeting knowledge of its parent shows and movies to fully enjoy it.

fwiw i barely know anything about the parent show and enjoy the old movies all the same.

YOU GUYS LIKE SPOCK?

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69_mV57-_0";>This will move you in ways your grampa never touched you before when he was dying</a>

oh come on. here's the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69_mV57-_0

i was confused that they had him watching his mother die when in the earlier movies she is there after he is brought back to life on genesis, etc.

― tehresa, Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:43 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's because the whole movie is set in an alternate timeline!

here's the quote from Spock in the film:

"Nero spared my life for one reason: so that i would know his pain. he beamed me here so i could observe his vengeance."

I figure that means that Nero told him, but let's say he didn't; that still doesn't explain why Spock would stay on the planet when he knows where the outpost is.

awww
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ok thanks i couldn't remember exact details of the movie!

Basically the Romulans changed everything by going through the black hole and killing off Kirk's dad, so now everything is slightly different.

I figure that means that Nero told him, but let's say he didn't; that still doesn't explain why Spock would stay on the planet when he knows where the outpost is.

― musically, Friday, January 22, 2010 10:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe he was secretly afraid of simon pegg's little sidekick guy but didn't want to say it

It's not really a proper Star Trek movie even, it just riffs on the mythology. But's it's my favourite of the lot.

― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Friday, January 22, 2010 10:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is otm, even if my opinion is completely different. reboots like this are basically just really expensive fan fiction.

i dunno, i dont know anything abt the original series really and it was still really entertaining

that's kinda my point....it's not of a piece with the rest of the series, it's just another 'pretty people in peril' JJ Abrams sci-fi soap opera with ST characters and a bunch of fan service references plugged in.

ok

this is otm, even if my opinion is completely different. reboots like this are basically just really expensive fan fiction.

― some dude, Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:49 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i kind of agree with this - i think u could make an argument that this moment in pop culture is kind of like an era of fanfic, especially the whole 'prestigious directors doing comic books' thingamabob

The Prestigious JJ Abrams

perhaps The Prestigious Rob Zombie is next

i wasnt talking about jj abrams

sam raimi

i was thinking of nolan in particular... or bryan singer... dudes with indie film world cred

ang lee!

I can buy nolan and singer being comic nerds but was ang lee any kind of fan of the hulk?

"No, just because you don't have to have anything but the most fleeting knowledge of its parent shows and movies to fully enjoy it."

Cranking Beastie Boys in the kid kirk sequence wasn't enjoyable until I found out upthread that it might be a reference to an obscure tape of Shatner throwing a hissy fit over pronouncing "sabotage" for the animated series.

fwiw i recall reading Abrams wasn't a big fan of Star Trek.

Yeah, it was really the other screenwriters who knew all the lore and such. And c'mon the SABBATAGE thing is not something Abrams would bother with, that's internet hooey.

Wasn't sure where else to post this but Mr Veg got the Giacchino score and it is fantastic to listen to. Highly recommend.

this did pretty well didn't it?

where's the sequel?

there's a script, they're shooting next year and it's coming out in 2012

hope they get a decent villain this time

All tribbles, all the time. I'll accept nothing less.

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word is that it's gonna be tribbles and the klingons teaming up

haaaaa

lol

Well clearly the demand is there for tribble villains. listening Abrams?

you realize we're now going to get a Clovertribble, right

But don't tribbles hate Klingons? That's how Kirk ID's the Klingon spy.

xp I'm comfortable with that.

what if there are evil tribbles that feed on anger huh what about that

also, this is the new alternate timeline! maybe the klingons and tribbles have come to an understanding

The stage is already set - Scotty had a tribble on his desk in this movie:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/scotty%20tribble%20star%20trek/frakkingoff/scotty_tribble.png

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn274/frakkingoff/scotty_tribble.png