Pearl Jam - C or D?

That tour was dispiriting. When S-K came onstage, the shall we say loutish elements of PJ's audience started to snicker. "Who are these dikes?" a dude a few feet away from me said. And S-K lost some of their dynamism and tension in an open-air setting. But, yeah, great idea for a tour.

From the first time I heard S-K (One Beat), I thought that they were at least coming from the same place as Pearl Jam.

i hear a lot of vedder in corin's vocals. they've chosen some of my favourite bands to tour with them in the past, thinking My Morning Jacket and Dismemberment Plan and Monkeywrench in particular (Tim Kerr plays Wembley Arena!)

They are 20 years old today. I feel really old now.

I dunno. That seems about right to me. Some albums that I loved in 1991 still feel like they came out yesterday, but Ten feels ANCIENT.

I don't think they are 20 years old today.

During my sophomore year, they played on my university campus (midweek, on the steps of the gym for free) and they were going by Mookie Blaylock at the time, but that was 19 years ago.

Remember: 20 years ago, Andrew Wood died and the Mother Love Bone debut was released, I know Stone and Jeff are careerist but that seems pretty "fast".

*off to wiki*

Okay I'm wrong:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080109033804/http://www.pearljam.com/timeline/

Opened this thread because two weeks ago I saw Corin Tucker in Seattle and Eddie Vedder came out and sang for the encore. My wife is a massive S-K fan and was 15 when Ten came out and kind of lost her shit in a giddy teenage girl way.

I really wish I had yelled for them to play Hunger Strike.

Ten, Vs., Vitalogy, Riot Act = c
Yield = mostly c, with some d
No Code = somewhere in the middle of c and d
the album after Riot Act = somewhere in the middle of d and c
Binaural = d

backspacer = haven'th eard

I actually pulled out the hits comp the other day (since my daughter had been listening to the Lullaby Pearl Jam disc that showed up), and I think most of the stuff holds up pretty well. At the least, big bands from the past 20 years whose catalog can support a double-disc best-of (with lots of stuff left off, too) are pretty rare. I'll even rep for "Ten," esp. the remixed version that came out and took away some of the gloppier dated production flourishes.

PJ and Radiohead are two acts that sort of owe a lot to R.E.M. by osmosis, even if the connection is rarely direct. PJ in particular, though, really tempers its more objectionable aspects (like the incessant Jimi worship) by leaning in R.E.M.'s direction.

So I went to see Eddie Vedder's solo show here in Chicago last night. I originally had no intention of going because, really, two hours of Eddie + ukelele didn't exactly sound promising, but I was gifted a free ticket. Turns out that the whole marketing of this tour as a support for Ukelele Songs is a bit misleading, he only played the first six or so songs on his ukelele before switching over to various guitars (and a mandolin!) for the rest of the show (barring a set closing "Dream A Little Dream". Anyway, it ended up a fantastic show. Great versions of lots of Pearl Jam hits and rarities, plus tons of covers (John Doe's "4th of July", "Crazy Mary", "Let My Love Open the Door" and a great version of Springsteen's "Open All Night" among others). My favorite was this slowed down version of "Lukin" with a mini-string session.

Eddie's a really great entertainer, which I had kinda forgotten. Told lots of funny stories between songs and threw everything into it. Even the duet with Glen Hansard (who played a great opening set, I never really understood the love for him before now) on "Falling Slowly" was really good.

his new solo dvd is fun.

Also, it was super cute to see him pull up all the little kids in the crowd up onto stage for "Hard Sun".

I've had "I Am Mine" in my iPod for a few days; good tune.

yeah i'm not super into the solo albums but i feel like Eddie would be a fun solo show. he did that weird version of "Lukin" when PJ played Austin City Limits and i loved the hell out of it.

Its a really great version! I still haven't seen that ACL set.

I don't think Eddie Vedder has ever penned a lyric that speaks to me more than "open the fridge, now I know life's worth." Truly the voice of my generation.

al- you went to ACL? or you just found the show streaming online someplace?

i saw their set on the Austin City Limits tv series on PBS

ohhh right

Anyone watched the documentary yet? Opens here this weekend.

The only showing here in Chicago sold out, so I'll be waiting til the DVD comes out in October.

yeah i'm sure i'll watch it on DVD at some point, possibly as part of the PEARL JAM BOUGHT A ZOO Cameron Crowe party pack. but i'm listening to the soundtrack right now! the live stuff so far is cool but i'm more curious about the demos on disc 2.

"Got Some" is about a "drug dealer," but added what the drug the dealer is selling is actually a great rock song."

"Got Some" is about a "drug dealer," but added what the drug the dealer is selling is actually a great rock song."

haha where is that from? eddie said that to me almost verbatim in an interview a couple of summers ago

wikipedia

I went on NY radio today and debated Jeanne Fury about the merits of Pearl Jam vs. Nirvana. Vernon Reid called in to say we should have been talking about Soundgarden instead.

whoa!

I know, right? It was awesome. (And I kinda secretly agreed with him.)

lol cool

Hahah nice.

ha, awesome!!

I saw the doc tonight. Soooo much great early footage. Lots of laughs, a few sad bits, great overview of the last 20 years. Felt like a very well thought out loveletter, to the band, and to the fans as well. Feel like it's what Crowe should have been doing all along.

zmog, pearl jam fanboys, i have a bit of trivia for you...

There is the little tiny speck of a town that I visit often, maybe 20-30 times a year, about 35 miles north of San Francisco....

There is a little tiny store/bar/restaurant that serves as basically the only business in about a 10 mile radius.

I was in there the other day and had a much longer conversation than usual with the man who is often working there.

He is a musician, he was singing some perverted boogie woogie piano song and we started talking about music.

For some reason he brought up that in the early 90s, Pearl Jam stayed at a ranch nearby while record... and that Eddie Vedder wrote the song "Elderly Woman..." about the former owner of the store/bar/restaurant who has since passed.

Here's the website of the all-in-one convenience store/post office/bar/restaurant:
http://www.ranchonicasio.com/history.htm

Recording

For its second album, Pearl Jam felt the pressures of trying to match the success of its debut album, Ten. In a 2002 interview, guitarist Mike McCready said, "The band was blown up pretty big and everything was pretty crazy."[1] Vs. was the first Pearl Jam album to have production duties handled by producer Brendan O'Brien. It was also the band's first album with drummer Dave Abbruzzese, who had joined the band in August 1991 and toured for the album Ten. Rehearsals for Vs. began in February 1993 at Potatohead Studio in Seattle, Washington. The band then moved to The Site in Nicasio, California in March 1993 to begin recording. Abbruzzese called the tranquil recording site "paradise" while lead vocalist Eddie Vedder said, "I fucking hate it here...I've had a hard time...How do you make a rock record here?"[2]

Anyways, I have zero desire to listen to PJ at all but this song I don't mind.

Isn't "The Site" the same place that Fleetwood Mac recorded "Rumours"?

The second half of Backspacer isn't working for me today.

unperson:

listening to the podcast you did, vernon reid part is great...good discussion

but i think you're very, very wrong about nirvana's "legacy" being only shit like the vines and silverchair

i think you find nirvana at the root of a lot of people -- lots of people i know at least -- who make all kinds of music from electronic to punk to metal or whatever...it really was a galvanizing force for ppl who were -- as you say -- the right age...and i think people might have started out in little kids grunge bands but i know for me i would not be playing music today (in a hip hop band) if not for nirvana

Isn't "The Site" the same place that Fleetwood Mac recorded "Rumours"?

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:07 AM (3 hours ago)

Nope, that was The Record Plant in Sausalito. Close though!

m@tt otm

Yeah, I realize a whole part of unperson's "thing" is being deliberately contrarian and turning against easy, popular opinion, but he is just 100% wrong on that regard.

well, any hugely popular band is gonna have positive/negative impacts. nirvana's impact at this point is kinda like the doors.

i'm kind of over judging bands based on their "impact." they impacted nothing more than record labels search for copy-cat bands.