Agree completely, on a track-by-track basis. But... I think there was a good track on Heartbeat City, yet I'll still take The Cars...
Exile is so overrated, I've always considered Whipsmart to be the real classic in her catalog.
Contrarian. DeRogatorous. Please expand to 2500 words and submit for "Kill Your Second-Tier Idols."
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― cdwill, Friday, 20 May 2005 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link
I also think Sandanista! is the Clash's best album, but I don't expect many people to agree with me on that one.
― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 20 May 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link
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― brittle-lemon, Friday, 20 May 2005 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link
You know, [i]Beauty Stab[/i] and [i]How to Be a Zillionaire[/i] are really, really good, and to this day I play them way more than I do [i]Lexicon of Love[/i]. But that's me, I guess. And even [i]Alphabet City[/i] has one of their most sublime songs ever, "Rage and then regret."
― brittle-lemon, Friday, 20 May 2005 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Btw. I am kind of surprised there is no mention of Massive Attack yet. The only thing that prevents me from listing them is that I like "Protection" better than "Blue Lines", but I think most don't.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Garbage's best album is their second.
hmm, it certainly has a lot of their finest moments but there's also a lot more filler on Version 2.0 compared with Garbage.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link
and
Stone Roses > Second Coming > Ian Brown solo > John Squire solo
Possibly King Crimson, though i havent heard everythin, In the Court remains my favourite.
― dmun drive-in (dmun), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Definitely not, I love The Vibrators dearly but the quality of their albums has been up and down all over the place over the years - and even if they'd released an album of Knox humming tunelessly over the sound of Eddie farting in the bath, it would have been hard-pushed not to be an improvment over 1996's execrable and frankly embarassing "unpunked".
"ian dury and the blockheads?"
True up until the release of Mr. Lovepants in 1998, but definitely not thereafter.
"Pere Ubu?"
I can see an argument for this up until they split up in '82; but since they reformed in '88 their albums have been up and down like a whore's drawers in quality terms.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 20 May 2005 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Steadily downhill for the first ten years but 1981's Discipline has to be the second best - if not the best album they've done, and over the last 10 years, even allowing for the difficulty in deciphering which releases are "official" and which aren't, and sometimes even which are "live" and which aren't, the quality control's been up and down like the teeth of a rusty saw.
[New expressions to describe a regularly repeated up-and-then-down-and-then-up-again motion urgently required. See-saws need not apply]
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 20 May 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Actually, "First Edition" being the blip that Metal Box was better than. OK, allowing for that one...
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Cheap Trick (1977) > In Color > Heaven Tonight > Dream Police > All Shook Up > Next Position Please > Standing On The Edge > The Doctor > Lap Of Luxury > Busted > Woke Up With A Monster
Alas, it is impossible to argue that Cheap Trick (1997) continued the decline, so the chain has to stop. I suspect that the assumptions that most people would dispute are a) that Cheap Trick (1977) is their studio peak (an opinion that I've always had), b) that The Doctor is better than Lap Of Luxury (I'm almost completely unfamiliar with the material on The Doctor, but I think that you would have to dock LOL the max for the invasion of the outside songwriters to support this opinion...), and c) that Busted is better than Woke Up With A Monster (probably unsupportable, although my only exposure to WUWAM was when one of the videos showed up on Beavis & Butthead...).
― John Fredland (jfredland), Friday, 20 May 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link
-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 19th, 2005.
While they never matched their first album, I don't think it'd be fair to call their output from then on a "steady decline." I thought Truth and Soul, Reality of my Surroundings, and Give a Monkey a Brain all had some good moments on them.
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 20 May 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link
And the Sex Pistols.Probably Suicide, too.
― Dr Benway (dr benway), Friday, 20 May 2005 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link
You've not heard their last one the, presumably? Not their best by any means, but defiitely their best since Trade Test Transmissions imho.
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― Not Thaat Chuck, Friday, 20 May 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Uh, Animal Rights?? I mean Play and 18 aren't the best, but yeesh.
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 20 May 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
No way on both of these. (Prodigy's best is their third, and Siegbran and I will never agree on Celtic Frost, as many threads here have demonstrated.)
I was thinking of Cheap Trick myself, but their third blows away their too-much-powerpop-without-enough-power second. The Cars might work, though. And ditto Pere Ubu, starting with the *Datapanik* EP, even. --- and yes, including their later stuff, which I've never understood the appeal of.
I'm an American, so I don't know those early Buzzcocks albums. *Singles Going Steady* will always be their debut to me (well, after *Spiral Scratch* I guess), and that kinda throws everything out of whack. (And also, I will defer to anybody who has actually kept up with the Vibrators. What do I know?)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I kinda wish somebody would disagree with me about Devo or the B-52s (who I'm way less sure belong here than, um, the Clash.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link
(with exception for the entertaining singles...)
BEST SHARK JUMPER maybe.
BWAHAHAHA :'D
Gotta love some of those american 'e-lectro-nicka' fans.
― bwahahaha, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link
actually, *They Said It Couldn't Be Done* (c. 1985). "Girls Love the Way He Spins" was the first track, though.
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
accept my apologies already.
"The Masterplan" is a b-sides collection & therefore excempt btw.
Oasis own this thread and only politeness in regard of the thread starter is holding back the obvious conclusion imo.
― bwahahaha, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Not very, but it does have more decent songs than anyone was really expecting by then, like 'Excess'.
Oasis's starting point was pretty low already, though. There's a point at which distinguishing between various shades of shit becomes ridiculous.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
xp
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
*Explodes!*
OK.
How about The Undertones?
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link