Do we have a PAZZ AND JOB 2009 thread yet?

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For the record, Miles Marshall Lewis' original ballot had three entries, all of them Thriller, but I caught it.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

MML's Sly and the Family Stone 33 1/3 is a fun read.

forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Hi Maura!

forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Hoison/jaymc, you probably have a point. But it doesn't really explain the overlap between the album and singles top tens. It would be less pathetic if there were different indie bands on each list -- which is what's always tended to happen in the past, historically, in this poll, with indie rock and every other kind of music.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

(waving)

maura, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

My "centrality" was .008 (#679 of 692).

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

MML's Sly and the Family Stone 33 1/3 is a fun read.

― forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:51 PM Bookmark

^^ love that dude

good article, xhuxk

i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It's almost reassuring that this is the worst consensus of my lifetime.

reassuring to me that it's my least-centric ballot ever. i only had two things in the top 100 (jay reatard #79, nellie mckay #94). and my #1 vote for nels cline secured him a 200th-place finish, yay.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

seems to me the boring consensus problem is the result of most balloteers just not having heard enough albums. it'd be interesting to see sum comparative stats on the distribution of mentions across the list. seems the number of albums released and those actually listened to by critics are going in opposite directions.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

It's almost reassuring that this is the worst consensus of my lifetime.

reassuring to me that it's my least-centric ballot ever.

My albums (final position): Koze (245), Art Brut (75), Quik & Kurupt (62), Tanya Morgan (185), Hyperdub 5 (143), Fiery Furnaces (99), A-Trak (one vote), BMSR (132), Bloody Mary (one vote), Syran Mbenza (818).

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

(I do wish they'd collate the ties a little more clearly, but BELIEVE ME I KNOW what a pain in the ass that is.)

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Albums — Votes For How to Be a Lady, Volume 1
Marcello Carlin
Tom Ewing
Steve Kiviat
Frank Kogan
Alex Macpherson
David Moore
Jordan Sargent
Julianne Escobedo Shepherd
Al Shipley

sup ilx

guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link

the results are absolutely atrocious but tbh i'm pretty excited to read the essays. more than a few could be interesting

guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The Dreamer essay doesn't really get to his appeal at all. If I wasn't already a fan, I wouldn't find it convincing.

i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

really liked xhuxk's essay, but this singles list is seriously abysmal.

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

soderberg voting for bp3 is depressing too

guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

and wavves, wow, wtf from one of my fav critics

guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

This might be a dumb question, but how much of Pazz and Jop does the Village Voice include in the print version? Do they print all of the ballots they received, just the names of those who contributed to the poll, neither, something else entirely?

rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

They have a print edition? (Haven't been to NYC in a couple years.)

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link

usually they print the results, comments, essays and a list of the voters (not their ballots -- that's an online-only feature).

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Cool. Would someone mind grabbing a copy and sending one to me in the mail? If it's no trouble, of course. It's kind of silly, but it's a real kick to have my name printed in the Village Voice.

rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

THE FACT I WAS THE ONLY ONE TO VOTE FOR "GUTTER MUSIC" (Starkey featuring Durrty Goodz) IS SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THE ENTIRE WORLD.

rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Do they not automatically send you a copy of the print edition anymore? I guess they probably don't in this economy.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link

idk how "empire state of mind" became the year's critically coalesced huge pop single & not "blame it"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone who thinks the former is better is obv retarded but i'd guess it has something to do w/ the stars, jay & alicia are way safer rockcrit picks

guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it's almost as if people were looking for another signature song about fuckin' new york

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't for a second understand why non-NYers can begin to give a shit about that song.

i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link

dude, that song is a fucking tourist trap. my mind is blown that any New Yorker thinks of it as anything but corny garbage

forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Voting "Empire State Of Mind" is like getting your picture sketched in Times Square

forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, as I said elsewhere, it's a chart-topping pop song featuring two well-regarded personalities that became a minor cultural phenomenon and that most everybody seems to like, or at least not mind too much.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney otm

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

smh @ this http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2009/1519966

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

a vote for 'empire state of mind' is a vote for a-rod. THINK ABOUT THAT.

maura, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

looks like schnipper slept on music in 2009

forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Do they not automatically send you a copy of the print edition anymore? I guess they probably don't in this economy.

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:40 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think u can just request it tho

not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

smh @ this http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2009/1519966

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

coincidentally his videotaped interview with project pat is one of my least favorite things of the year

not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm sure there's plenty of writers w/ better taste who'd like to actually vote in this thing, thanks for playing matthew schippner & that goof who voted for thriller or whatever

xp lol maura

guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Shit, I might've voted for "Empire State of Mind," if I'd voted this year. Jay-Z is kind of terrible on it (he sounds out of breath most of the time), but that hook is pretty damn unstoppable. Plus, I've got a soft spot for hip-hop that samples old soul songs, and there's not enough of it on the radio these days.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ethan p posted 'for fucks sake' im assuming re: the election results -- i thought about making a joke abt it being pazz & jop related but just settled on kent brockman's 'democracy simply doesn't work' which could also apply here

not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

(on facebook)

not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link

hey i found some more of schnipper's ballots

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/lizardpeopleb.jpg

forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

11 of the top 13 LPs and five of the top six singles are shared between this and the Pitchfork list. fwiw.

scottpl, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

dude, that song is a fucking tourist trap. my mind is blown that any New Yorker thinks of it as anything but corny garbage

Voting "Empire State Of Mind" is like getting your picture sketched in Times Square

― forksclovetoFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:46 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ok, I can buy this. My disinterest (beyond being annoyed at mediocrity from an artist I've liked a lot in the past) probably boils down to the fact that I've never been to or particularly cared about going to New York.

i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2009/686073

Hahahahahahahahhahaahha.

rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link

amazing

kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I noticed DJ/Rupture voting for himself, too.

i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ten favorite albums? What's an album?

Steve Ciabattoni
Brooklyn, NY

in which year was this comment cryogenically frozen

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I still maintain that people wouldn't care about OB4CL2 any more than The Lex Diamond Story if it weren't for the title.

i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't wait for Purple Haze 2 to be the only rap album in the top 10 of Pazz and Jop 2018

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, Rodney, I certainly agree that the Dre beats are BRICKS. They're terrible. I've actually had people try and defend them to me.

rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link


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