like at the time there was a lot of handwringing abt how ppl in the west wearing keffiyehs had gone from "political empathy with palestine" to "you can get them in neon pink now"
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link
ethno tourism maybe.
i dont really have a dog in this fight anyway, i am just interested in the way all the midwestern/southern/irish/british/australian ppl on this thread are reading WASP into the band. my take is that if you replace "rich" or "WASPy" or "privileged" with "precious" or "precocious" itd be a little more... accurate.
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link
benneton/"sell your paintings at the united nations"/louis vuitton/"hyannisport is a ghetto"/"you spilt keffir on your keffiyeh"
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, January 18, 2010 8:33 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
those are all from the last album!
and if were being pedantic only benneton and hyannisport are WASP signifiers. and only those two + louis vuitton are privilege signifiers.
― max, Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:36 AM (1 minute ago)
jeez i am sorry not every second word is bryn mawr or DAR
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link
ha well! if were going to talk about my people lets at least get the signifiers right
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
also i havent really gotten to the point on the new album where i know lyrics
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
In the context of the song, balaclava = ski vacation, horchata = beach vacation, right? so both arguably "preppy" or whatever.
― fucking in the streets, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
do they wear Topsiders without socks?
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link
every person in new york fyi
― supra-max (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the most VW-like DMB album?
i have no idea, you'd have to ask a dave matthews fan. but just randomly picking one of his most recent singles ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew8hmVIGKcM
...
i mean, they don't sound exactly alike or anything, but this whole world-groove-lite thing that vw do, dmb and a lot of other bonnaroovian groove types have been doing for years. (and yes those bands all listened to talking heads and graceland too.) it's possible that what's being exposed is not lex's ignorance of indie, but indie fans' ignorance of world-groove hippie shit. maybe we're on the cusp of a great realignment...
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
was that dmb or vpw
― supra-max (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Vampire Weekend Will Debut At One In The USA
by Paul Cashmere - January 17 2010
The new Vampire Weekend album `Contra` will be the number one album in America by the end of the week.
Hits Daily Double is reporting that the ‘Contra’ album is on its way to registering upwards of 120,000 sales over the week, based on first day sales.
This means Ke$ha’s number one with ‘Animal’ will be short-lived after debuting this week and knocking Susan Boyle from the top of the chart.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link
thread filled with lots of discussion about class signifiers = music lacks serious jams IMO
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, January 18, 2010 5:08 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest
lol i had this thought while out this afternoon--is it a valid criticism of vw that we seem to be having the exact same dumb conversation about the second album that we did about the first one (and the we here is not ilx but music crit at large imo)? i'm inclined not to blame the band just because people do indeed like getting trolled.
otherwise jordan s. pretty much on fire in here.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but lex isn't trolling!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link
First album got a ton of airplay on Modern Rock radio.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure why "we talk about race/class issues = the band is musically weak" would have any more purchase here than it would with respect to M.I.A.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
those bands all listened to talking heads and graceland too.)
Peter Gabriel too.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe we're on the cusp of a great realignment...
i mean, hello, animal collective fans are half former phish fans. and a beardo disco bro is just slight more self-aware and record-obsessed jam band fan.
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the animal collective hippie-groove crossover was obvious a long time before it happened. will not be at all surprised for v.w. to follow suit.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
THE NEXT GRATEFUL DEAD
― supra-max (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
my take is that this is the hegelian synthesis of the two biggest groups of rock fans of the last ten years.
all these little brothers whose older sibs were listening to either indie rock or jam bands are growing up and refusing 2 choose
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
which is fine! but people getting all "it's so indie" about vampire weekend are just leaving out the part of the equation that embarrasses them (or should).
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link
dmb still sucks tho
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, January 18, 2010 8:59 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
no--jordan is otm that vw is!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link
bennetton fwiw
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link
they do, and in at least some of the same ways (or ways related to the ways) that vampire weekend does. imho.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't really understand that!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Just wanna mention, I love listening to this band and this album. Makes me so happy when I listen to it.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:08 AM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark
?i think its just confusing bc indie seems like a blanket term for so much music that really isn't indie now. also i think jam bands never really left the US bc like i said, dave matthews band only exists as a futurama punchline 2me
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link
but based on this thread im fully open to the idea of thinking they are awesome
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll tell you this: you fucking people are turning this thread into something as unwieldy as the DMB one.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
dmb kinda sounds like sade
― supra-max (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP burt_stanton
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
ants marching is a pretty good song tbrr
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
lol @ me complaining abt micro-analysis of vampire weekend -> this
― Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
this sounds pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ_Nf7yGxbc
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i take back what i said about dmb, theyre pretty great if yr into technically sound musicianship, overlong songs and flawless production
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah 'the space between' is pretty great too
i feel like i am entering 'sub-max' territory here
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
what about rusted root?
that's definitely a band that i remember the name of, take it from me.
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd fondle DM over Ezra Koenig certainly.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i kinda suspect the dave matthews bnd aesthetic would resonate w/ me atm
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
vampire weekend are no yeah yeah yeahs or xx or santogold tho.
Thank fuck.
How come everybody on this thread seems 2B wrtg in abbrevs & all wid rapspeak and shit? Would it be an undesirable signifier of class privilege to use an apostrophe?
― Did you say you were going to mangle the light? (staggerlee), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
no joke 'send me on my way' is an all-timer for me
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
jesus soto
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
using punctuation makes it seem like u care--and then u are up for mockery
i mox u on VW thred.
― Did you say you were going to mangle the light? (staggerlee), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Trolling remark otm. the band even formed as a sort of parody/investigation of the "preppy" aesthetic iirc.
We might as well throw in Steely Dan as another reference point for VW.
xpost yeah, this is the new DMB thread.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i can say this with some confidence--vampire weekend has not yet written a song that soundtracks a road trip as well as "send me on my way."
― max, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta finda apostrophe brb
― supra-max (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i would like this band more if they had a umlaut over the "a" and spelled it like "vampyre"
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link