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presumably one can also restore from TM to the working superduper as well.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Also if your superduper drive fits your computer, hey presto you can swap.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/top.jpg

cozen, Monday, 18 January 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

should I sell my 17" MBP and get a 27" iMac? Turns out the 17" is too much of a pain to carry anywhere so it's just getting desktop duty.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah Ed that is actually my plan - to restore to the superduper partition - but I've never ascertained if it's a thing that ppl actually do - but why not? it's a full working bootable system

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Before TM, I used Carbon copy cloner with much the same strategy and it saved my bacon. Just dropped the backup disk into the machine and away you go.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 January 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Judging by that 'latest creation' graphic, it'll be an updated version of this.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 January 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

lot of people seem do be doing the superduper/cloner + time machine combo.

It's just easier to restore. I have my system drive + applications cloaning w/ superduper to a second drive every night. Then i have my 2 data drives being backed up w/ Time Machine. I did have a problem with my start up drive so I just booted from the dupe, wiped the start-up drive clean, and restored it from the dupe and it's like nothing ever happened.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

new bootcamp today! I was already running w7 but hopefully this'll make things better

cogito, ergo some dude (dyao), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Tracer - I've booted from a SuperDuper! backup and then immediately used SuperDuper! to create a working copy of itself back on the original drive. Works fine. But...can't you just boot from your install CD and immediately create the same thing you're talking about by using the "transfer my data from Time Machine" option?

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

the install CD doesn't have all my apps and email, which i could conceivably need before i could get to a store, buy a new HD, and restore

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, I was just thinking of getting your system back in order, which would only work if the drive itself was fine...not running from the install disk of course.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

deleted my HD and reinstalled OS X earlier this week; didn't even back up beforehand

all music/media/docs etc were on an external disc, only thing I lost were prefs and some programs w/e

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

computer is like new now tho; so zippy

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

thinkin abt doin this

just sayin, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

do that at least once a/year - so worth it

supra-max (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Really? I know this is common in Windows-world but I've never heard of anyone doing it regularly with a Mac.

Error: No Error (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

mine was a dog (2yo macbook and couldn't watch a youtube w/out stuttering) before I did because I bought into the 'doesn't need doing on OS X' myth but so glad I did it, as I say comp is like new

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

is this easy to do while preserving yr home folder or whatever?

mage pit laceration (gbx), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i suspect the increased zippiness is because a new system doesn't include any of the startup items, prefpanes, menubar widgets etc. once you put all those back it will be the same.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

no intention in putting any of those back in

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i dl and fuck w/so much software - most of which i never end up using consistently - so its just a mater of preserving the prefs etc of the stuff i do use and reinstalling

supra-max (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

the sluggishness is mostly due to bumf you put in your ~/Library folder rather than stuff elsewhere on the disc. it's not the clean reinstall that is giving you speed back, it's the new home directory.

i don't bother with reinstalling as a rule, but I do occasionally do some housekeeping in ~/Library. i do a clean install when i upgrade, but still running 10.5 here, and will be until i finish my phd.

caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

~/Library/Fonts has been a major offender for me in the past

caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

what should i be cleaing out of my library?

max, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^

mage pit laceration (gbx), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, i want to know too, not that max should be cleaned out of anyone's library

mage pit laceration (gbx), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

this home folder dates back to 10.1. hadn't thought about that before, woah.

stet, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i would like to know about the Library as well

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

w7 running much faster than snow leopard on my Mbp. would like to know too

cogito, ergo some dude (dyao), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

fonts you don't use in ~/Library/Fonts (or /Library/Fonts, but not /System) is the main thing ime (although this can be done with a font manager if you are a nerd)

if you have the energy, you could create a new ~/Library and move stuff back in, which is much quicker than a clean install and, unless you did something weird to the rest of your disk, will likely fix 90% of the problem.

tbh though, i really don't bother with this. e.g. preference files for apps you no longer use make no difference. shit can get out of hand, but it's always for a reason, unlike windows.

caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i use AppTrap (like a free AppZapper): i assume it gets most stuff lying around, but i guess maybe there's application support stuff in my library? would that slow things down?

mage pit laceration (gbx), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

in principle stuff like that, unused preferences, etc. should make no difference.

caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

caches can get huge and fucked up; you can dump most of them. Your next boot will be slow as hell, but it'll be faster after.

stet, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

unless you actually use the corresponding application, all anything in ~/Library/Preferences and ~/Library/Application Support/ should be doing is taking up disk space

caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

o were supposed to listen to u mr 10.5 pffft

supra-max (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

rebuilding itunes was O_O

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I have never done a complete reinstall except for the time I had a hard drive failure and even then, i think I copied my previous home directory over. I've even copied my home directory (~/Library intact) from laptop to laptop.

BTW, installing all your apps to ~/Applications unless they're ones that use an installer or need to be installed system-wide makes app management easy

mh, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"o were supposed to listen to u mr 10.5 pffft"

mr 10.5 is smart! snow leopard broke so much of my stuff it felt like bush administration. ZING

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i am "mr. i wrote shitty code that depends on 10.5 and i need it to finish my phd", butthead!

caek, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

u know what version i run, 10.6, because i am awesome

supra-max (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Dammit where's this tablet already

stet, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

This guy who tangentially works on some apple stuff let slip a while back of some new apple stuff coming down soon, then got all secretive, then I said, oh, dude, you're probably talking about the tablet -- that's no secret at all! -- and he seemed like he never heard of the tablet. later, I asked him, "that cool apple stuff you were working on, it's the tablet right?" and he goes, 'yeaaaaah, tablet. that must be it.' then he changed the subject.

If it turns out that it really is just the tablet, I'm gonna be all, dude what the hell?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"Tangentially" works on apple stuff? I doubt he'd know anything that was really under wraps, because the project teams aren't just under NDA, they're all Apple employees and typically kept secluded from other employees when they're working on a project like that. Either he's a good bullshit artist, he's working on something different, or he's just blowing smoke up your ass.

mh, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

*Talking about this tablet thing, in a radio interview in France, this guy from Orange (CEO iirc) was asked if the new Apple project was a tablet, and he replied yes and that Orange was in deals with them about it. He obviously backtracked like hell later on.

Jibe, Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

He works at a company subcontracted by apple and is probably working on some exotic component that he might not even be able to identify as being part of anything (or recognize as being part of a tablet or not), but for example, if it was some new kind of waffle-shaped heating element, then it's not a bad guess that apple might be coming out some crazy magic waffle maker.

I really hope it's a waffle maker.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

A waffle maker would go well with my usb blender.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/10/brando-usb-blender.jpg

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

so...

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Monday, 25 January 2010 11:50 (fourteen years ago) link

tell us all you know, cz.

jed_, Monday, 25 January 2010 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2010/db100125.gif

James Mitchell, Monday, 25 January 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link


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