Bottomless Bellybutton by Dash Shaw

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Yeah...I liked BBB a lot, but I never thought that the same guy who wrote that would be producing these awesome sci-fi stories.

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Monday, 18 January 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

agreed!

Nhex, Monday, 18 January 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

the unclothed man in the 35th century AD is a pretty awesome sci fi story too... also, tom kaczynski is awesome in his own right - i've only read his mome stories, but they're all fantastic.

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link

'Any comic short that gets you to look up "Dyson sphere" on wikipedia deserves accolades imo.'

It might be homage to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1__ZyAOQuc

When Riker goes, "A Dyson sphere?", Picard goes, "I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it" then I swear he mutters "YOU IGNORANT AMERICAN" under his breath.

re: bottomless bellybutton, I read somewhere the guy just walked up to gary groth with no references and dropped a 40 pound manuscript on him and the next day groth called him up and said, "Hey you, I must publish this." How many times has this approach ever worked in comics?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

is that true? he wasn't exactly a no-name before BBB came out, although he was a much smaller name.

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Friday, 22 January 2010 03:58 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

tbh I had never read Bodyworld because I always figured I'd wait until the print edition came out, but my willpower broke down last night and I started reading it. This made me lol for some reason:

http://i50.tinypic.com/htd5w5.jpg

I don't want to skip to the end and ruin it, but can someone tell me if the full story is online, or does it cut off early?

(According to his bloggins he's also at work on a new comic called Torture Hospital.)

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Friday, 12 February 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

It's all online, but from what I understand the print version has extra, new or revised material, so you might just want to get that one if you can wait.

Nhex, Friday, 12 February 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i49.tinypic.com/24xna0y.jpg
Last thing I'll mention this before actually reading all of it, promise. :)

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Friday, 19 February 2010 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

man i really want that book!

forksclovetofu, Friday, 19 February 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

http://dashshaw.blogspot.com/2010/03/making-abyss-mocca-show.html

Kinda tempted to head out for his appearance, though I'm always too lazy to show up for these things... haven't been to a Mocca thing in years.

Nhex, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

planning on seeing him sign bodyworld april 13 at the strand; any other ny'ers wanna go with me?

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 18 March 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

ditto for me in SF/berkeley!

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Thursday, 18 March 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

well, on april 26th - 28th, not on the 13th (obv)

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Thursday, 18 March 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Oh hell yes – Body World came in the mail today. The title page says it's "Intended for the 'ideal reader'" and to read it "naked in bed."

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 15 April 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ha ha, i got that today too <3. acne novelty library.
have not gone further than the first few pages, while i finish up something else; kinda curious to see if unfolding the map is as integral as intended. it is a weird shiny object.

Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link

having read it on the internet i would say no, but maybe try and read it with the map in mind just to please ol' dash.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

also i must buy this!

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

bought my signed copy yesterday it's kind of scaring me a bit in its monotlithicness

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

also got it in the mail 2 days ago.

dan selzer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

mine should come in on monday... he's doing a few signings in the bay area, so i'll be sure to bring it. if anyone else is dying for a signed copy, let me know!

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Friday, 16 April 2010 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

Lots more about The Ruined Cast, including a 4-minute teaser. It looks AWESOME. holy shit.

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Expected to be released 4Q 2011, let the countdown begin!

btw this thread should maybe be renamed "Dash Shaw's Bottomless Bellybutton", or something that incorporates his name to make it easier to search for ilx0rs of the future

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, what did everyone think of Bodyworld? I really loved the first 3/4 of it or so, but tbh I thought it started tailing off a bit at the end. Still one of my fav things he's done so far, though.

btw, did anyone else pick up the The Unclothed Man in the 35th Century compilation? There's a story in there about people of the future living in some self-contained spaceship with many floors in a system designed to prevent inbreeding that's probably my very favorite thing of his that I've seen.

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Satellite CMYK was the name of the short I was referencing with the people living in the isolated floors, btw

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, (sorry I'm on Dash Shaw overload today) there's a decent interview here.

I especially like this, which is basically an awesome unwritten epilogue to Bodyworld:

That said, if there was a telepathy-inducing drug, I think it should be experimented with, in a controlled environment, and I would definitely want to try it. But it's dangerous because if it becomes too widespread, it would lead to a hive mind, which is what happens in "BodyWorld." However, eventually, after the hive mind has become the norm, then people would find ways to "shield" their bodymind from the other members of the hive and things would return to almost exactly the way things are now, pre-telepathy. But that would all happen many years after the "BodyWorld" story ends.

And also this little bit about how his animation work is affecting his comics:

oing animation increases your sensitivity to your body, because you have to think about how you walk and move. You have to do a million little drawings for the most mundane things. You could do a comic like that, but it'd take a lot of pages and very little would happen, which is I guess what "Bottomless" is like. Now that I'm doing animation more, my comics are getting leaner, tighter, and more detailed. If you do a hundred drawings of someone sitting down for an animation, you want to work on one detailed comic page next, to keep yourself balanced.

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought bodyworld was fun and well structured but showed his need to mature as a writer... he got away with some silly scripting in bellybutton but it felt a bit strained and precious at times in bodyworld
that said: i'm so excited this guy is on the scene. hope he doesn't become a filmmaker

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

name-checking P. Chung twice - nice! wouldn't have guessed that as influence

Nhex, Sunday, 30 May 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, did anyone else pick up the The Unclothed Man in the 35th Century compilation?

I bought UNCLOTHED MAN this week, just thinking it was a collection of miscellaneous Shaw shawts. Imagine my annoyance when, removed from plastic shrinkwrap, the inside flap helpfully explains that it's 20% storyboards for a cartoon I can't watch, and 80% stuff I already have. Fuuuuck off, helpful bookshop.

― Oh boy, Midgard! That's where I'm a Viking! (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:12 (4 weeks ago)

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Sunday, 30 May 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

You can watch the ifc stuff free online, although none of them look nearly as cool as the trailer to his new film imo

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Sunday, 30 May 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I watched all of Unclothed Man online and thought it was amazing.

dan selzer, Sunday, 30 May 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

IFC even started geoblocking their podcasts a few years ago!

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Sunday, 30 May 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

sic, you can't watch these?

http://www.ifc.com/unclothed-man-in-the-35th-century-ad/

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

unclothed man also collects his blind date short story, which is one of my favorite things of his. when i went to see him talk in berkeley, he talked about how there was going to be a whole book of these, based on pages from a blind date tribute website that he had bookmarked, but when the website went down and he couldn't get in touch with the page administrator, he gave up and moved on to other projects.

he's working on a new book in addition to the animation stuff, so i don't think the printed page is in danger of losing him just yet.

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Monday, 31 May 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

sic, you can't watch these?

hmm, I tried, but after two minutes of buffering-and-playing, the ad before either Schrodinger's Shaw or a message saying that this content is unavailable in my area had made it from 31 seconds remaining to 21 seconds remaining.

BTW I should have said that Satellite CMYK was indeed great, in Mome. There was a high-school-set one that struck me the most from his contributions, though. I suppose I might as well actually turn the pages of the hardcover and read it again.

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

he got away with some silly scripting in bellybutton but it felt a bit strained and precious at times in bodyworld

disagree! found bodyworld a real leap forward in art and script! opinions!

No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

got my copy of bodyworld yesterday and re-read it last night in bed (but not naked). The vertical format - which i found interesting and novel to start with, then somewhat suspicious and cumbersome, and finally it just felt natural - is cool, and the book just looks great.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Monday, 14 June 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked the way that the fluoro orange ink on the left-hand side, where the spine would normally be, made satisfying snapping noises as I opened each fresh double-page.

one month passes...

i keep moving house and whenever i come across this thing tucked away in a pile of books i'm sure that it's the nicest shiny-brown object i own

as a banana slug farmer, I still agree with you

two months pass...

I finished editing the layouts for the new book I’m working on. I started working on this comic last year, simultaneously with the animation, but after going to the Sundance Screenwriters Lab (for The Ruined Cast) I decided to scratch what I’d done on the comic and script it all out- like a comic script, all words, and then from that I did the layouts in sketchbooks.

This is the first long book I’ve completely laid out and scripted beforehand. Usually I’d start with an outline or piece together and rearrange separate scenes, but I’ve tried a lot of different ways, and I’ve written scripts for shorter comics before.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2whgvna.jpg

PUMPED

Z S, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"Ruined Cast" is one of those things where it's like they scanned my brain to figure out just what I'd like most to exist in the world w/out consciously realizing it. I am stoked. And also excited for whatever comic comes out of that epic stack of scripts!

<3 Dash Shaw

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"Ruined Cast" is one of those things where it's like they scanned my brain to figure out just what I'd like most to exist in the world w/out consciously realizing it.

Definitely. Frank Santoro contributes, too! It's going to be awesome, there's no way around it

Z S, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

frank santoro is awesome. i've emailed him back and forth about buying books and art from him, and there's this really noticeable and funny trend in his tone going from REALLY EXCITED THAT I'M INTERESTED IN HIS ART to just. barely. tolerating. me. he's still awesome, though.

rag photographique (ytth), Thursday, 14 October 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Dash Shaw photographed for L'Uomo Vogue

Mary Lynn Ice Cube (sic), Sunday, 17 October 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

he gets a groomer now?

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 October 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

bit of a dash shaw reference/influence in the new Chris Ware book, Lint, I think. Just a bit?

dan selzer, Saturday, 6 November 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Dash posted some character model sheets from the Ruined Cast (still really excited for this btw!) this morning. Character model sheets are pretty much my favorite thing to look at in the world, I think.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2nb7qkk.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/103x160.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/oktxqw.jpg

need to impressive a girl? (Z S), Monday, 6 December 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Jose's full, puffy lips. They look satisfying to draw.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link


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