Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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nah, i'm sure it was. just saying, at some point people gotta move on from cavernous synthy german dub house.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

at some point

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

well, the last tussle i heard was about four years ago, so maybe it's time to revisit. it was okay then, but i was really into grime and devendra banhart then, so i wasn't paying much attention. *urgh*

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the last time i heard tussle was at a tiny houseparty in the basement and they were doing ESG with drum circle interludes. but this kid i know that used to work at amoeba told me recently he's been playing drums for them and they've gotten a bit more experimental, a bit more This Heat-ish. i'm definitely intrigued. i also might ask him to give me drum lessons.

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link

house party was like 4 yrs ago

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Soundstream remix = my #1 track of 2006. My favorite group remixed by my second favorite group! I wish I knew how to write becaus I feel like there is so much going on in that track that I can't really express. I'm dumb I guess

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite Seasons nee Earthtones record: http://www.discogs.com/release/1277

I bought so much west-coast house in 1998 and 1999

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

wh3rd to 2004.

This is my favorite cr 12":
http://www.discogs.com/release/25934

Apparently the guy only made one record. A real shame, as his record is one of the best things that came out of a relatively mediocre label.

If you condense Fluxion's Vibrant Forms I&II into a single cd you get some of the best dubby minimalism of the 90's.

http://www.discogs.com/release/650
http://www.discogs.com/release/706

I went into a trance state while driving through a snow storm with a cdr comp of these two albums. It was 11am on a Saturday and I was completely sober. It was a 45 minute drive, but I felt like I was in the car for about 3 hours. When I parked my car at home it was like I came to; I wasn't quite sure how I got there. It was one of the strangest experiences of my life. Vahid will probably make fun of me endlessly, but I have to give Fluxion props. You don't come across records like that every day.

This was a great label for this kind of music, especially DC10-14:
http://www.discogs.com/label/Deepchord

But the funny thing is that this guy went on to do these records for Octal and they are the best thing he ever did. I got these as promos back in the day and packed them away back in Michigan. I brought them back to Texas this summer, fucking amazing records:

http://www.discogs.com/release/45234
http://www.discogs.com/release/126958

This Man-Like man needs to go to bed. Good night fellas.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

one more thing...

It is more on the ambient tip, but it is absolutely breathtaking:
http://www.discogs.com/release/584472

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

doing a very basic dub recording of their own rhythm is exactly what we would have expected them to do

... in 1997. They've learned a few new tricks since then and I didn't feel the need to hear Maurizio M remake #4839B

(I am aware that the Vainqueur remix, which I love, is also stuck in 1997 so feel free to rebut my shaky logic along these lines)

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

no need ;)

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

disco n, thxxxxxxx!!

i is listening to Scion.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

the Bipolar Defect 2LP is like water slowly flowing down a valley on a frozen steppe.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

forgot to bid on a whole bunch of OOP CR 12"s last week which subsequently went for 1.50 euros each. fuck.

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

also has no-one repped for this yet? total classic

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still pissed off at Basic Channel Dude for the shitty show he put on in New York four years ago with um, not Tikiman but somebody else. first he did a "DJ set" which turned out to be bog-standard roots reggae for two straight hours. even after they started doing live stuff they never got up to house tempo that i recall. why did he think people were there????

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

lol "house tempo". it was probably rhythm & sound

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yes exactly. i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm. OK maybe that's more techno tempo. everything they played was like half that. which is fine i guess, but not why i like them.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't understand the tussle/basic channel connection here

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i think vahid's message is "omg noobs"

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

All the Melvins records I have are fast, but I saw them live and it was slow. WOT GIVES.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely it was billed as a 45" session?

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

don't worry, I fixed it in ProTools

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the rhythm and sound records i have are reggae tempo and sound like reggae and have reggae singers occasionally. also i think the two guys like roots reggae

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah obv a little.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm.

i think that you and i are listening to different r & s records.

also, vahid is pretty much always 'omg noobs.' which is at times refreshing and at times pure arrogance. (and in this case, after an investigation, Tussle are none too good. in fact, i'd venture to say Tussle kinda sucks.)

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

-- vahid (vfoz...) (webmail), March 26th, 2006 3:27 AM. (vahid)

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like that Scion record. otherwise, he's sort of right on.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The Scion mix CD is a better introduction to BC than the BC comp. It's become one of my all-time fave mixes.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i would agree there.

it's funny that vahid doesn't mention any maurizio, tho i guess that isn't strictly 'bc', just bc-associated.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Trak II underrated there

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

DUB is number one

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

huh, that's funny, i thought all rhythm and sound records were fast, i.e. chain reaction i.e. basic channel, etc. oh well!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

some of the remixes are. the originals are very much dubby reggae.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it was seriously zzzzzzzzzzzzz. for like $20, too.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i am less interested in which ones people think i underrated (i get the sense many people would give all nine records 10/10 scores) and more interested in which ones you think i overrated.

the tussle+dj spun/BC connection is that there are more interesting things going on w/ dub vs electronic music these days than basic channel. i just wanted to get that out there, but if i were to start a thread on west coast house = I GET NO HITS, so i troll these threads.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want me to justify my list i will post capsule reviews later

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

give us a rundown of the BPMs too, dog

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

justify my love

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll second Tussle as quite nice, if not very Basic Channel-y, dub.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

the underground techno label that that separates the men from the boys

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― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess i didn't find the Tussle stuff very dubby at all? maybe i'm listening to the wrong stuff.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Go here and download "Elephant." Kinda drum-circle dub or something but it qualifies for me. I love this particular track.

http://sixeyes.blogspot.com/2006/11/sixeyes-friday-mix-whats-hot-at-hype.html

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like a capsule review vahid! i might even attempt my own.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to read a lenghty critical appraisal of the basic channel series. are there any?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ps vahid write a book

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

pps-but can you tone the 'omg noobs' type commentary down a bit, especially where it isn't needed?

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

though i would like capsule reviews too.

i think you overrated phylyps trak, but i need to listen to it a few more times before i get into specifics as to why.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is pretty awesome. thx for the tip.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is ~~pretty~~FUCKING awesome. thx for the tip.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

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