no boys allowed in the room!!!!

i haven't seen enough of them
(i liked Fat Girl too. breillat is so interesting & sometimes really awful, i have the impression she is basically a philosopher and just decided to do film instead of writing essays.)

haven't seen enough of them either. my viewing has really slowed down the past few years and even before then most of what i watched was pre-2000 ˘\(o_º)/˘

no one over there is voting for claire denis? wtf is wrong with you guys (ok i guess in the 00s i've only seen 'trouble everyday' O_O and 'vendredi soir' which was pretty minor)

breillat its like.. if she just wrote essays would seem to me totally within normal boundaries of french theory world, but on film can get really out-there (watched one not long ago just because i like asia argento, even though she sort of stomps through every role the same way whether it is set in the 18th century or not). i kind of admire that she is not afraid to do what she wants, even when it is very very ridiculous. also i know there are all these asian horror takashi miike fanboys out there & i think it would be LOL to get them all to watch some breillat. hey guys, here is some extreme cinema for u! enjoy yourself!

i think fat girl is the only breillat i have seen

Witnesses, The

^ this one sucked btw

loved La Ciénaga (Lucrecia Martel, 2001, Argentina)

ha ok i actually tried. without voting for every one i've seen (some were bad and some i remember nothing about) i only got to 18. sorry, omar.

Hey, I think it's really great that you are recruiting more ILX women to vote in your movie poll. I will vote if I can think of 40 recent movies that I saw in the last ten years, much less liked.

(I don't even know who Claire Denis is, so maybe I am not qualified to vote in this, however.)

gtfo, dudes

i don't want to struggle to think of 40 recent movies i have seen and actually enjoyed and would be willing to rep for. instead i have this picture of a badass himalayan goat

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_b8FcJhoI1to/R8JlcPMimrI/AAAAAAAAAAs/JgCw6eozJqE/s320/asiaMarkhor.jpg

that goat is amazing.

he is called the markhor, and only 2000-4000 of them still exist! here's a fact sheet
http://www.ultimateungulate.com/Artiodactyla/Capra_falconeri.html

what a fucking awesome goat

Breillat's first movie reminds of a John Waters movie without the sense of humor. And Mort Shuman wrote the songs!! And Shirley Stoler's in it!

harbl, you should watch 36 Fillette because in the beginning of the movie, the girl is knitting on circulars and complaining about her project.

omg that goat!!

i should see 36 fillette. i need to get netflix again.

reposted from ILS dresses thread:

women be shoppin sale alert: 70% off sale at modcloth, i got 4 pretty nice dresses for work for $60 total. lots of sizes available.

― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:00 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

thank you! i bought a cute red/white plaid summer dress for $15

i saw that one! i had to control myself and only get stuff i could wear to work. ok that's a lie, i got ONE cute summer dress (the b/w polka dots sheath dress)

it's really hard to control myself when so many cute dresses are $15.

i know, i wanted to go crazy - there were a bunch of dresses AND coats/jackets i would have bought. but having just spent close to $300 on a wedding dress, i wasn't really feeling good about spending more money on clothes :/

fwiw that is a very reasonable amt to spend on a wedding dress! (although i realize that empirically it is a lot of money for one one-day garment)

yeah i guess, but it ~feels~ extravagant! but it's the kind of dress that i can hem and dye and get a ton of wear out of, so i try to remind myself of that every time i start getting that sick feeling.

http://clutchmagonline.com/newsgossipinfo/11-things-your-man-does-not-need-to-know/

11. If You Have Ever Been Charged With Stalking, Keep That On The Low. Real Low.

Men are allowed to swing their penis freely without judgment.

women over 30 are not allowed to sleep without turning into GORILLA FACE
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/beauty/article7116039.ece

The comments to that article are a rare and pleasant exception to the first rule of the internet (which of course is "Never, EVER, read the comments.").

Also I don't know what she means by "gorilla face" but if she's writing to a certain subset of anti-aging, product-obsessed Women of Means, maybe putting a little of that subcutaneous fat back in place would help support those cheeks, Toots. You were always going to have to choose either your face or your ass, you knew that going in.

i got the impression she was talking about the face-smoosh that happens when you sleep really hard with your face against the pillow. it's ok if you sleep hard when you're young, bouncy, and resilient, but don't do it over 30!

and do not swing your penis freely

Well you're supposed to use silk pillowcases, obv. They slide against skin and don't pull it as much, this is esp important for front- or side-sleepers. Those fibers aren't as elastic as they used to be, your days of looking fresh are numbered, BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID and etc.

i did look pretty grizzled this morning

So did I but I was up til 3am. O_o

i was only up til 1
but i got up at 6!

Not that this thread is about shopping but LL Bean has an awesome patent-leather skinny belt in bright colors for $25 and I am in awe at a lot of their women's stuff right now actually. Striking the right note of WASPY geometric mid-century crispness for this summer, imo.

That sounds good.

Before I read on I thought 'gorilla face' was waking up and discovering an inch-long hair growing out of some random part of the face that was not in evidence the night before, but no. Worked at the PC incarnation of the Body Shop and there's nothing non-feminist about moisturizer AFAIAC. I only started getting the mush-face thing recently, but HINT it's much worse if you like coffee and cigarettes but do not like water as much as either. Otherwise it has not been too bad (good cheekbones help). The aging-skin thing I hate most is that it shows signs of sun faster - and I'm a lifetime cultivator of pallor. Slight problem: I break out when SPF is involved.

If I could, I'd go to a steam room every day.

Kenneth Wheatley wrote:
Bloody nonsence. Whats more I nearly read all of it!!
Kenneth Wheatley

Good old Kenneth Wheatley.

i love him!

who gives a shit

so... how important is it these days for a girl to know how to cook well? Or even just, you know, not burn everything.

Does anyone else feel pressured to "be into" traditional girl stuff like cooking and sewing and crafts, shopping, and doing hair and make up? I'm pretty girly but I just have never got the hang of this stuff and feel that I'm paying a price for it the older I get.

i constantly feel like i have to know how to dress appropriate to the occasion (e.g. what to wear to the theatre or to a fancy dinner), how to put on makeup, how to walk in heels, how to wear jewellery without fidgeting, etc. I'm not very girly and that stuff just takes so much hard work, but I feel like I'll be judged very harshly for getting it wrong so I can't just opt out the way I can opt out of girly social stuff like shopping. On the other hand I don't feel pressured into cooking/sewing, maybe purely because i'm minimally competent at them already.

well, cooking is important because it's useful to know how to feed/nourish yourself. has little to do with what other people think imo.

get out of here

Well, you can opt out of things that you just don't do. Lots of people don't go the opera. Or cocktail parties. Or, I dunno, encase sparkly things in plastic and call them jewelry and sell them on etsy.

http://www.whatthefuckshouldimakefordinner.com/veg.php <-----pretty cool website I prob should have found earlier.

I am perfectly capable of feeding myself. It is feeding others that is the problem. I'm cool with lightly sauteed vegetables with very little seasoning and some rice or a salad or something. I'm also partial to the sandwich. BUT when I make something for OTHER people {sometimes [usually] (a) dude(s)} there's this expectation that maybe I am putting on myself to CREATE something MAGNIFICENT and then it ends up burning and I pout because I'm not being a good home maker or whatever. I never aspired to be a home maker which is why I never put effort into learning home make-y things (because they were always boring to me), but now I think that guys maybe want me to know my way around a kitchen and are going to be disappointed when they find out that I'm not as good as I should be, being a girl and all.

Also a lot of my girlfriends aren't into opera or cocktail parties but they are really into, like, making their own pads and shoes and sitting around knitting or baking kale (ew). These are things I think are cool and have tried many times but can never really get into myself. A lot of times by opting out of these things I am opting out of entire friendships, and that sucks.

the solution to the first thing is boys who can cook.

not sure i can help you
this doesn't sound like a genuine problem to me -- sounds like you are feeling imaginary pressure

yes. you are right. horse shoe also has a good point.

i do not feel pressured to know anything but i feel bad about some stuff i don't know how to do that is not girl stuff so maybe you should consider it that way, learn how to be better at cooking only if you want to not because some dude is gonna be unimpressed

I feel this pressure too, peacocks. I have lived off ready meals and stuff straight out of a can forever and now I realise I can't cook at all. Have found a boy who can cook but still feel guilty when he says he is tired of cooking every night (but when I do cook I fuck up the timings and he looks vaguely disapproving at the tasteless mush I serve up, or when I say "oh hey let's eat this thing I like and have cooked before!" it is something he doesn't like anyway)

womanhood is all about the imaginary pressures, right? then some of them turn out not to be so imaginary no matter how many well-meaning people tell us we should just get up and deal

WomanhoodAdulthood is all about imaginary pressures.

So the "feminine thing" is to be good at in-the-house stuff and leave out-of-house & repairing stuff to the guys, but now most of of us live in apts without yards or whatever and probably don't have cars that need fixing and/or no one does their own plumbing anyway so we don't have traditional division of labor any longer. Conclusion: the home and quality-of-life stuff ends up being mostly what needs to get done.

It's sort of uncool to totally opt out of a chore, that's like if your boyfriend said "I'm never doing the laundry because I don't like it and I will ensure that I do a bad job, so you should just do it now before it becomes a problem." Maybe you're cool with that, and whoever doesn't feel like doing laundry when it's their turn will take it out and pay $12 to have it dropped off out of their own spending budget. Or whoever dislikes cooking/can't cook can put aside money to order in at least one night a week if the partner cooks the other 5 nights (plus one night for sandwiches because I love sandwiches).

Or just offer to take over something else that you dislike doing less. It depends on what matters to you both!

My bf thinks dinner has to be a hot meal of some kind, and I could care less if I eat sandwiches (SANDWICHES!) or leftovers or a salad or cheese & crackers or whatever. So on nights when I'm tired or lazy, if he wants a hot dinner, he'll just have to cook it. (Frequently these are the nights he buys a roasted chicken at the grocery store's deli counter.)