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I just thought it was totally vile that to this fashion designer man, it's a "macabre mystery", like we're talking about beautifully gothic (and fictional!) horror novels or something -- but what he's talking about are murdered, buried children -- male and female -- and it's just gross. Corpse fashion is gross regardless of what gender we're talking about.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

xp No, no problem, I like that we get to take turns being outraged. I'm just too tired today to work up to it, so thanks for stopping by.

xxp Amanda, I agree with that too, but on the scale of real evil...it's not compelling, it's not even CONVINCING, and that guy is either an imbecile or just so far away from the real world of life and Doing Stuff that I don't have the energy to build a bridge to him etc etc or take him too seriously. I'm glad you do, though, because someone should.

Laurel, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well shit, I wouldn't even have noticed it if I hadn't spent all day feeling like shit for giving my friend, who just had a baby, a copy of The Little Friend for a, I dunno, birthing gift? It's a book all about a dead child. It was 100% accidental, and it turned out not to be a big deal, but I felt bad about it all day. So maybe I'm just extra sensitive to dead kiddies today.

Overall I don't even notice what people do in the fashion world as I swore off fashion magazines a long time ago because they made me feel bad about myself.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I would not characterize this as outrage. It's more like revulsion.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

What's really good Chinese food in Edgewater, close to me? Not Thai, not Vietnamese, just Chinese. Possibly searing hot Szechuan.

kenan, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I would not characterize this as outrage.
It's more like revulsion.

I'm singing this to myself as a Morrissey song.

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

because you can't make up things more ridiculous than what these wankers already do in order to satirize them

This is why the Sacha Baron Cohen fashion guy (Bruno) is funny, because he just turns the camera on designers/fashionistas and only gives them a little prodding before the most ridiculous shit falls from their mouths.

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/morrisseyREX2_355x450.jpg
I would not characterize this as outrage,
it's more like revulsion,
because you can't make up things more ridiculous
than what these wankers already do in order to satirize them

Overall I don't even notice what people do
I swore off fashion magazines a long time ago,
this fashion designer man, this macabre mystery,
I like that we take turns being outraged
I like that we take turns being outraged

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i think you just became my new favorite person

kenan, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

oh hey cool do you mind if i borrow those lyrics for $TOP_SECRET band, Eazy? we need a morrissey songs

river wolf, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Y but you have to credit all of us.

Laurel, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

It's all yours, but you'll owe these folks a drink.

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i probably do anyway

river wolf, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Panda Panda Chinese Restaurant is the spot, I decided. The recent online reviews say that it used to be a scary place with awful Chinese food, but they got new management and now they are THE BEST delivery place in the area and the spicy garlic pork is not to be missed. And if this is all true, awesome, it's a block away.

kenan, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

ps i'm gonna call the song DEAD BABY FASHIONSHOW

cool?

river wolf, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

not morrissey enough

kenan, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

"This Fashion Designer Man"

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Svengali of the Runway"

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"Booed in Hampstead Heath"

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

okay

Fashion, You're Revolting

river wolf, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"Your Trick Wears Your School Tie"

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Spam title today: "Good Evening Mr. Groove"

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Last Night In Soho"

kenan, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Svengali of the Runway"

"Svengali in Platforms"

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn, I had a feeling there was one already.

Eazy, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"samurai of king's road"?

colette, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

guys do i see bob log or cococoma??

river wolf, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link

the latter

dan m, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Chinese food update: Panda Panda's garlic pork = pretty gotdamn good.

kenan, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

heading over in a bit; you going, dan?

river wolf, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the container store and coffee. And I hate fashion, except for old man fashion, which is great.

I really have an intelligensia addiction.

Jeff, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

hmm, there's two dudes having a semi-loud heart to heart outside our open windows. clearly a new couple, one 'doesn't sleep. can't sleep. but i slept last night. it was so good' and the other is 'so you're worried i'm going to shit on you, but i haven't even cheated on you?' and then some mumbling, and then shitting guy says 'yeah, i *wish* he was gay, he treated me well. but he's not, so i'm not cheatin'.

now they're debating whether they're 'stuck' on each other, and talking about whether or not they've had dreams about each other.

i'm so tempted to just say out loud (not shout), which they'd hear, something like 'you two are so cute, stop bringing the drama and enjoy the first flushes of romance!' but i'm probably too chicken.

colette, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

At first I somehow got the idea that they were old men, but a new couple.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Svengali in Platforms is probably the most embarrassingly bad song I have ever heard.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, you guys, the original song is called "Bengali in Platforms." I was just riffing on "Svengali of the Runway."

jaymc, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh. You're right. Still, I cringe when I hear it.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

You know what would bring those homos together?

This:

http://www.amandaleporeonline.com/photos/05/01.jpg

Cazwell, Boy George, and Amanda Lepore all in one spot together!

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

NSFW, but a good Dave LaChapelle shot of A.L.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Ooops.

http://www.amandaleporeonline.com/photos/02/13.jpg

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:33 (sixteen years ago) link

"good"

river wolf, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:47 (sixteen years ago) link

OK. So I really really love Amanda Lepore, but her whole persona raises a lot of interesting questions for me. Sometimes it seems to me like what she does is the ultimate in male control of a woman's body, since she used to be a man, and she changed into a complete extreme Barbie doll and she exposes her body pretty much anywhere and everywhere. I can't find them right now, but there are pictures of her DJing wearing a dress that fit loosely on top. Her boobs are hanging half of the time, but not in a way that she is actively showing them off, but idly letting them flop in and out of her top. Then there are images like the one above (her naked breasts, with a goose-neck straw taped to her nipple, and going into her mouth)--if that were a picture of a person born as a woman, it would be pretty controversial, but since it's a tranny, it's OK.

I guess what I think about is what it means that this person who was born as a man (at least physically) has sculpted a caricature of a woman's body, which s/he now puts on display for a living, like a puppeteer who gets to control the dummy from the inside.

This is only one line of thought about her, other trannies, and drag queens, but it is the one that I have been mulling over recently.

Etc. Etc.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Not that my adoration (slightly too strong a word) or her is dissipated by these thought. Au contraire--I like that she raises some interesting questions.

What makes her more interesting than typical drag queens or trannies, is that while she is a showperson for sure, she also exudes approachability and a pretty grounded demeanor in interviews, and from what I've read about people who see her around, and from my own really brief encounter with ther.

Anyway, I'd love to hear some thoughts on this.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.amandaleporeonline.com/photos/04/15.jpg

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 05:55 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, one more thing, and then bed!

This is a really interesting (to me anyway...) short autobiography.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link

She's pretty ugly.

Colette, welcome to Lakeview East aka Drama Central. We went to Pie Hole one night and these really skinny gay boys were drama drama drama all night long.

Jeff, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I played tennis from 7 to 10 last and I don't think I am injured at all. Success!

Jeff, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Not that it makes it OK, but I remember there being some famous photo shoot like this way before ANTM got into it (which I learned about via Bitch or Venus Zine or something similar...), so when I saw it on ANTM, my first thoughts were that
a) they were just copying this other photographer and
b) why did they want to bring that level of controversy (which followed the other photos) to such a fairly tame show?

Sadly, Death sells because it is fascinating.

I'm not anti-fashion. I enjoy it like I do many other forms of popular culture, but, like everything else, it can get ridiculous.

KitCat, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Why wouldn't they want to bring controversy to a tame show? Controversy sells too.

Jesse, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I had never seen those ANTM shots before, and I woke up with them in my brane. Really disturbing for about ten different reasons, at least five of them political. That shit just should not be. :(

kenan, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, I've seen Suicide Girls shoots before where it was all "oooh, look, a knife and a bunch of fake blood, I am the sexy undead!" and while it didn't seem wank-worthy, it didn't bother me like those ANTM shots did. I am trying to hash out why.

Later, though, I need a little coffee bump.

kenan, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link


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