btw when is a good rapper going to freestyle over "on to the next one"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 January 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
jay did alright himself tbh, only tolerable performance by him on that album
wtf are these gorillavsbear references I've been seeing lately? i thought that was a chillgaze fansite?
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Friday, 15 January 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
it's whiney's token stand-in for crack-rap bandwagon indie fans
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 January 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
bun b did
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Friday, 15 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
actually, he's not good anymore
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Friday, 15 January 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
;_;
― an american hippie in israel (Jordan), Friday, 15 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
k'naan is okay and he's particularly strong live
Truth bomb. Honestly, I quite like his two albums - which should both be corny and awful and worthy based on what they are but are not purely on the strength of his skill/personality/ear. But he wins you over with his live sets - fiercely charismatic, fucks with arrangements and songs all the time, great chemistry with his band (who are pretty tight themselves)...just a consummate SHOWMAN. It's easier if I don't think of him as a rapper per se - rap is one of the things in his tool kit but it's not the only one or necessarily the most important. Sort of like latter-day Mos Def (at least live).
― Alex in Montreal, Friday, 15 January 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
To clarify, not like latter-day Mos in terms of sound, just in terms of how he functions as a performer/recording artist.
he's saying the guy makes some bangers that a non-NPR rap fan would enjoy divorced of the context of the rest of his career, deej, calm down
― some dude, Friday, January 15, 2010 11:30 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
im just asking for less 'internerd' anthropology & more actual enthusiasm for stuff he likes, i dont think thats really such a big deal. although based on the songs online this stuff is just too unrepentantly cheesy& whiney's scarequotes around "cool" are making me think of the lecoq quote:
Not much of a drinker, but if I get my work done early, I've sometimes pop two NyQuil capsules and then jelly-belly my way around the office, giving people hugs and whistling "Patience" by G'n'R. There's this one guy I detest, though, and once I found his chair empty so I just gurgled up a nice one and spat on it. Immediately afterwards I got paranoid and rubbed it into the upholstery and walk- sprinted away. As I wiped my finger on my sock I bitterly realized that the whole process probably resulted in me getting more spit on my clothes than on his. Hmmm. I don't want to physically assault him; trying to chip away at him psychologically wont work - he's one of those people so removed from any social loop that nothing offends him (Example: Me: "You're wearing neon yellow suspenders and a sweater your gramma knitted you and your fly is undone you dumb bastard." Him: "Well I'm SOOOOORRY...I guess I don't conform to your standards of "COOOL" and "FASHION", hmph!").I think I'm just gonna steal his fucking stapler.-- Ramosi (olafsonski...), February 1st, 2002.
-- Ramosi (olafsonski...), February 1st, 2002.
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Friday, 15 January 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
It's easier if I don't think of him as a rapper per se - rap is one of the things in his tool kit but it's not the only one or necessarily the most important. Sort of like latter-day Mos Def (at least live).
― Alex in Montreal, Friday, January 15, 2010 2:38 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah this is part of what is so eye-roll-y about it to me. of COURSE this guy -- a non-rapping rapper from another country -- would be one of the first rappers on austin city limits
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Friday, 15 January 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
they should get buck 65 tbh
― laverne and shipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 January 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
since you brought him up i will rep the "bike for three!" record
sorry guys
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 15 January 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ooh, i hate the Bike For Three record. But I loved Situation
― laverne and shipley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i pretty much hate everything else he has done. but i love the production on that BFT record and the belgian chick is taut.
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 15 January 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i'll stan for Talkin Honky Blues forever
― lol lobos (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 January 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122319397
weird list, esp since i know noz is no Drake fan. including a drake mixtape but not a kanye one is kinda crazy! those early kanye mixtapes were awesome.
id pick that tupac 'rap phenomenon' mix before any juelz mixtapes too
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the drake thing seems like some weird concession-- i skipped the intro but maybe he was trying to "objectively" rank tapes in terms of general impact on rap and/or the artists career?-- cuz noz has spent a good amount of time on twitter/blog trashing drake
had no idea that that t.i. tape even existed
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
its actually a couple of tapes -- i found out about them from ethan's old blog back when he was still posting but then they were almost impossible to find. the 2nd one from '03 is amazing
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link
impossible to find ... outside of atlanta i mean, obv
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
eh as much as i loved those kanye mixtapes they weren't a media-anointed SEMINAL MIXTAPE MOMENT like So Far Gone or a lot of the other stuff on the list, and obviously he was being kind of withering and obligatory with SFG's inclusion anyway
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― some dude, Saturday, 16 January 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
im surprised to hear u say that tbh. weren't those mixtapes responsible for a whole bunch of "well its good but not as good as..." type commentary when his lp dropped?
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda, but i mean, Get Well Soon, I'm Good etc. were largely stuff that he produced for major label releases and songs that were on either the official College Dropout or the early leaked version. they helped his buzz as an artist, but it all felt like part of a bigger buzz about his singles, his productions, his overall image, etc.
― avaSHART hahahahaha guys check it out i said shart (some dude), Saturday, 16 January 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
compare that to the canonical 50 and Wayne mixtapes that have zero material in common w/ the blockbuster albums that followed and Kanye's mixtapes feel a lot less essential or list-worthy in and of themselves, y'know?
― avaSHART hahahahaha guys check it out i said shart (some dude), Saturday, 16 January 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link
& the only reason Drake is a star is bcuz he was on a Canadian TV show, had the same management as Lil Wayne before Drake was "signed," & had a hit R&B single.
I mean how important was that tape reallydoes anyone here even enjoy it
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
not that what yr saying doesnt make sense but it still seems more worthwhile than so far gone
a list bookended w/ 50 Cent Is The Future and So Far Gone is pretty obviously making a point about the kingmaking potential of mixtapes, and I can totally see why Noz included the latter for the sake of narrative regardless of his or your or my opinion. as a statement on what mixtapes can and have done at the end of the decade, it dovetails nicely.
― avaSHART hahahahaha guys check it out i said shart (some dude), Saturday, 16 January 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
heavy chevyz is amazing
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
dave which of the four should i download
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i like "turn it up", reminds me of mf grimm's 'do it for the kids'
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
the 2nd one, from '03, is amazing
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Friday, January 15, 2010 8:04 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
word
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i think a lot of folks around here looking for an 'in' to this bay stuff would probably enjoy Husalah; he's got a genuinely eccentric personality & his 'hustlin since the 80s' is one of the best & most consistent LPs from this entire scenehttp://a418.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00920/71/43/920993417_l.jpgdudes looking like a san andreas character here
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
"mamaco" & "flyest gear" are both great tracks that are immediately appealing too. hes actually got kind of a manic ghostface delivery although hes def got a gullier lyrical style compared to ghost these days
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:50 (fourteen years ago) link
his rapping on 'im a wild child' is pretty crazy too & definitely captures his off-the-wall style
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:52 (fourteen years ago) link
or here's 'husalah shine' which has this great smooth cali vibe to ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43hY4WQuZF4
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link
so someone commented on an oj da juiceman post that i wrote on jan 8, 2009
damaniJanuary 15, 2010 at 9:01 pm
wat up my nigga oj da juice man
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link
0j da jewman
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link
lol yah i was lollin when i approved that
reminds me of jamie foxx clowning terrance howards.
"whats happenin witchu iron mane, mane"
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link
*howard
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link
dudes looking like a san andreas character here
looks like the black guile from street fighter
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Saturday, 16 January 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
always loved that beanie tape on noz's list
― david cam'ron (tpp), Saturday, 16 January 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xffmoG8vjvI
― david cam'ron (tpp), Monday, 18 January 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i heard that on the radio the other day and cracked up
― HOTT LUNCH II HARDEEZ (some dude), Monday, 18 January 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
yo goona make sure you vote in the ilx poll so we can get some rap on the list
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link
lol..."goons"
i think goons have enough influence on ilx that there will be good goon-approved rap on the list
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
after the results of my major label rap '09 thread i feel confident that the big ilx poll won't shit the bed rapwise with Blueprint 3 doing well or whatever
― HOTT LUNCH II HARDEEZ (some dude), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
bp3 is not on the ballot ^_^
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:10 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I take it you didn't even look at the 80s list then.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link
man i mean i know "sales are dead" is old news but still sometimes i see these weekly stories and it's just fucking...unreal...the game is so dead.
Rank Artist Album This Week Est. Total16 Eminem Relapse 24,000 1,760,00022 Jay-Z Blueprint III 19,000 1,533,00037 Gucci Mane The State Vs. Radric Davis 12,000 203,00057 50 Cent Before I Self Destruct 8,800 358,000177 Wale Attention: Deficit 2,600 66,000
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link