rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

he's saying the guy makes some bangers that a non-NPR rap fan would enjoy divorced of the context of the rest of his career, deej, calm down

1. deej is otm about my def of "marketing problem." i guess i really mean its just one of those things that will sell records but will never be popular among "cool people" even though its really good (see also: Robert Randolph, most African music that isn't Konono No. 1)

2. yeah dude, i'm aware that the actual difference between Strange Famous battle geeks, ughh.com Nas stans and GorillaVsBear-reading cokey new-jacks is narcissism of small differences, but if you can't see these shades of gray, i don't know how you've lasted so long on ILX

k'naan is okay and he's particularly strong live

is gucci out of jail yet

btw when is a good rapper going to freestyle over "on to the next one"

jay did alright himself tbh, only tolerable performance by him on that album

wtf are these gorillavsbear references I've been seeing lately? i thought that was a chillgaze fansite?

it's whiney's token stand-in for crack-rap bandwagon indie fans

btw when is a good rapper going to freestyle over "on to the next one"

bun b did

actually, he's not good anymore

;_;

k'naan is okay and he's particularly strong live

Truth bomb. Honestly, I quite like his two albums - which should both be corny and awful and worthy based on what they are but are not purely on the strength of his skill/personality/ear. But he wins you over with his live sets - fiercely charismatic, fucks with arrangements and songs all the time, great chemistry with his band (who are pretty tight themselves)...just a consummate SHOWMAN. It's easier if I don't think of him as a rapper per se - rap is one of the things in his tool kit but it's not the only one or necessarily the most important. Sort of like latter-day Mos Def (at least live).

To clarify, not like latter-day Mos in terms of sound, just in terms of how he functions as a performer/recording artist.

he's saying the guy makes some bangers that a non-NPR rap fan would enjoy divorced of the context of the rest of his career, deej, calm down

― some dude, Friday, January 15, 2010 11:30 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im just asking for less 'internerd' anthropology & more actual enthusiasm for stuff he likes, i dont think thats really such a big deal. although based on the songs online this stuff is just too unrepentantly cheesy
& whiney's scarequotes around "cool" are making me think of the lecoq quote:

Not much of a drinker, but if I get my work done early, I've sometimes pop two NyQuil capsules and then jelly-belly my way around the office, giving people hugs and whistling "Patience" by G'n'R. There's this one guy I detest, though, and once I found his chair empty so I just gurgled up a nice one and spat on it. Immediately afterwards I got paranoid and rubbed it into the upholstery and walk- sprinted away. As I wiped my finger on my sock I bitterly realized that the whole process probably resulted in me getting more spit on my clothes than on his. Hmmm. I don't want to physically assault him; trying to chip away at him psychologically wont work - he's one of those people so removed from any social loop that nothing offends him (Example: Me: "You're wearing neon yellow suspenders and a sweater your gramma knitted you and your fly is undone you dumb bastard." Him: "Well I'm SOOOOORRY...I guess I don't conform to your standards of "COOOL" and "FASHION", hmph!").
I think I'm just gonna steal his fucking stapler.

-- Ramosi (olafsonski...), February 1st, 2002.

It's easier if I don't think of him as a rapper per se - rap is one of the things in his tool kit but it's not the only one or necessarily the most important. Sort of like latter-day Mos Def (at least live).

― Alex in Montreal, Friday, January 15, 2010 2:38 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah this is part of what is so eye-roll-y about it to me. of COURSE this guy -- a non-rapping rapper from another country -- would be one of the first rappers on austin city limits

they should get buck 65 tbh

since you brought him up i will rep the "bike for three!" record

sorry guys

ooh, i hate the Bike For Three record. But I loved Situation

i pretty much hate everything else he has done. but i love the production on that BFT record and the belgian chick is taut.

i'll stan for Talkin Honky Blues forever

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122319397

weird list, esp since i know noz is no Drake fan. including a drake mixtape but not a kanye one is kinda crazy! those early kanye mixtapes were awesome.

id pick that tupac 'rap phenomenon' mix before any juelz mixtapes too

the drake thing seems like some weird concession-- i skipped the intro but maybe he was trying to "objectively" rank tapes in terms of general impact on rap and/or the artists career?-- cuz noz has spent a good amount of time on twitter/blog trashing drake

had no idea that that t.i. tape even existed

its actually a couple of tapes -- i found out about them from ethan's old blog back when he was still posting but then they were almost impossible to find. the 2nd one from '03 is amazing

impossible to find ... outside of atlanta i mean, obv

eh as much as i loved those kanye mixtapes they weren't a media-anointed SEMINAL MIXTAPE MOMENT like So Far Gone or a lot of the other stuff on the list, and obviously he was being kind of withering and obligatory with SFG's inclusion anyway

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im surprised to hear u say that tbh. weren't those mixtapes responsible for a whole bunch of "well its good but not as good as..." type commentary when his lp dropped?

kinda, but i mean, Get Well Soon, I'm Good etc. were largely stuff that he produced for major label releases and songs that were on either the official College Dropout or the early leaked version. they helped his buzz as an artist, but it all felt like part of a bigger buzz about his singles, his productions, his overall image, etc.

compare that to the canonical 50 and Wayne mixtapes that have zero material in common w/ the blockbuster albums that followed and Kanye's mixtapes feel a lot less essential or list-worthy in and of themselves, y'know?

& the only reason Drake is a star is bcuz he was on a Canadian TV show, had the same management as Lil Wayne before Drake was "signed," & had a hit R&B single.

I mean how important was that tape really
does anyone here even enjoy it

not that what yr saying doesnt make sense but it still seems more worthwhile than so far gone

a list bookended w/ 50 Cent Is The Future and So Far Gone is pretty obviously making a point about the kingmaking potential of mixtapes, and I can totally see why Noz included the latter for the sake of narrative regardless of his or your or my opinion. as a statement on what mixtapes can and have done at the end of the decade, it dovetails nicely.

heavy chevyz is amazing

dave which of the four should i download

i like "turn it up", reminds me of mf grimm's 'do it for the kids'

the 2nd one, from '03, is amazing

― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Friday, January 15, 2010 8:04 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

word

i think a lot of folks around here looking for an 'in' to this bay stuff would probably enjoy Husalah; he's got a genuinely eccentric personality & his 'hustlin since the 80s' is one of the best & most consistent LPs from this entire scene
http://a418.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00920/71/43/920993417_l.jpg
dudes looking like a san andreas character here

"mamaco" & "flyest gear" are both great tracks that are immediately appealing too. hes actually got kind of a manic ghostface delivery although hes def got a gullier lyrical style compared to ghost these days

his rapping on 'im a wild child' is pretty crazy too & definitely captures his off-the-wall style

or here's 'husalah shine' which has this great smooth cali vibe to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43hY4WQuZF4

so someone commented on an oj da juiceman post that i wrote on jan 8, 2009

damani
January 15, 2010 at 9:01 pm

wat up my nigga oj da juice man

0j da jewman

lol yah i was lollin when i approved that

reminds me of jamie foxx clowning terrance howards.

"whats happenin witchu iron mane, mane"

*howard

dudes looking like a san andreas character here

looks like the black guile from street fighter

always loved that beanie tape on noz's list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xffmoG8vjvI

haha i heard that on the radio the other day and cracked up

yo goona make sure you vote in the ilx poll so we can get some rap on the list

lol..."goons"

i think goons have enough influence on ilx that there will be good goon-approved rap on the list