I think they're a whole corner of that ideology graph thingy, actuellement.
― Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that well-known ideology graph thing (http://www.politicalcompass.org/index) is pretty clearly a libertarian indoctrination tool. There's a whole body of literature surrounding the concept of authoritarianism, and as far as I know to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism.
― Dan I., Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
don't confuse Political Compass for the World's Smallest Political Quiz. The former makes conservatives foam at the mouth because it (generally) pegs them as authoritarians, and libertarians foam because its emphasis on value questions highlights their proximity to conservatives.
― sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
(but the idea of a 2-axis or 3-axis ideology guide is generally pretty stupid as a rule)
― sad man in him room (milo z), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
ah, okay, thanks!
― Dan I., Friday, 24 October 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link
to align libertarianism as its polar opposite strongly misrepresents authoritarianism
Who did this? we're talking about LIBERAL authoritarians. the Daleys, Humphrey, all the Dem senators not named Feingold, etc.
You just KNOW those two Obama Youth robots quoted on HuffPost are going to cluck their tongues at anyone who protests President Bam governing (and bombing) from the "center." "He has to do this to get re-elected!"
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
you are truly a seer
― joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
despite yr condescension i think most of us are pretty aware around these parts that obama will not be ushering in a totally post-partisan age. yes, people will be there to cheerlead whatever he does. i dont see why u think thats news to anyone.
― joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
uh, we are IN a postpartisan age, that's the problem.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf are you talking about never mind
― joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
morbs/feingold 08
― BIG HOOS was a communisteen orgadriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
but morbs like 48.5% of this country maintains a polar opposite view than you (and the other 48.5% or so) on practically every single issue there is. how do you propose anything ever getting done? short of the blue coastal states seceding from Jesusland?
p.s. i think it's a little early to take Barry to task for countries he hasn't bombed yet.
― flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
he's way smarter, more likable, and likely more decent than we've had in decades. give him a shot.
― flyover statesman (will), Friday, 24 October 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^ otm
Wanting the moon is understandable, but is no reason to turn down the offer of a few genuine moon rocks.
― Aimless, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I am giving him a shot. But I think liberal reforms have been deemed impractical by the entire ruling class since at least 1980. Time will tell if the New Depression shifts the spectrum.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=populism_without_pitchforks
He's apparently a "communitarian populist!" Thanks, intellectually lazy "progressive" JACKASS. Perhaps you would consider investing in a DICTIONARY before you become a WRITER.
"Communitarian Populism!!" You know, how Hitler rolled!! Jesus Christ. Obama's greatest flaw really is having supporters like these.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
and yes I already feel guilty for linking that piece and possibly causing other people to try and read it
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 October 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
no its cool i saw the populism without pitchforks in the url before i clicked
― some sort of sweetpea New Deal (Lamp), Sunday, 26 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Him being the antichrist could be a problem, apparently.
http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/images/Picture%205-166.jpg
(lol)
― StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Topeka KS 66604
― imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL at one medieval thought accusing something incredibly dense like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminianism of being satanistic.
― StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Amen.
― ℵℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜ℘! (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
amen xp!
― 8 HOOS Dog (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll amen if the screed writer can learn to spell 'worshipped'. HAHA.
― Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link
the most impressively irritating thing in the world is the font used by Phelps' propaganda posters
― restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i like obama a lot but some of his supporters' eagerness to justify daleyism as "just politics" or "just what you gotta do to get elected" is seriously disturbing.
― J.D., Monday, 27 October 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I like that the Westboro thing is headed as a news release. Front page of the next day's New York Times: "BARACK OBAMA IS ANTICHRIST."
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 27 October 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
J.D. what "daleyism" are you referring to?
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 27 October 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link
mixing up Fred Sanford & George Jefferson
― ban or astroban? (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
too much of a fuckin badass
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
overweeningly handsome
overly unflappable
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
embarrassingly thoughtful
skinny legs
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
ballhog
― my other son is a zamboni (gbx), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
insufficiently cruel
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
digustingly considerate
disappointingly pragmatic
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
wait, wtf @ "communitarian" being a bad word? That's a totally common category in contemporary political philosophy, used for those who see communities of individuals rather than isolated individuals as politically central. Or did I miss some kind of joke, with the Hitler references and all?
― Euler, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
yep, no one deifying him on ILX.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
it's called glee, morbius
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
pure, unadulterated sheer fucking glee
morbs tomorrow i will toast to your unrivaled principle and then get drunk
on wednesday i will be hung over
on thursday and thereafter it will be l-r: obama, BIG HOOShttp://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/14-cat-meets-eagle.JPG
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link
poor kitty gonna get raped
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link
for "The Wire" multitudes:
Obama as Tommy Carcetti
Obama’s victory is consequently a watershed in American politics, and it should be enthusiastically celebrated for that reason alone....The grim reality, however, is that Obama (like Carcetti) will spend his first term campaigning for his second term, a campaign he actually began in his acceptance speech in Chicago on election night... If he wins a second term, he’ll spend it shoring up the prospects of both the Democrats in Congress and his aspiring Democratic successor to the throne--again, by cultivating the “center.”
Obama will undoubtedly be better than Bush was and better than McCain would have been, and the differences matter. But a realistic assessment of the scope of those differences is imperative. Without it, people who really care about changing this country’s direction will end up counting on one man, Obama, instead of on themselves to bring about the change we need. Those people will inevitably be disappointed.
...All told, the outlook for a new day in America is poor. The bottom line is this: When you think Barack Obama, think Tommy Carcetti. He probably has a good heart, but he is confronting a vast array of institutional forces aimed at preventing him or anyone else in power from doing the right thing. To have any chance of getting the results we want out of his administration, we cannot just sit back and expect him to work his magic. We must organize, agitate, and pursue independent initiatives (like ballot measures) to get what we want (like single-payer healthcare) at the state level. And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage go to waste.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
what are barack obama's flaws? [Started by and what in April 2008, last updated Thursday, November 6, 2008 11:40 AM by Dr Morbius on I Love Everything] 17 new answers
― gabbneb, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage our shitty blogs go to waste.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Greenwald's on it already on his shitty left wing blog.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh great, the WBC is going to picket Obama's grandmother's funeral. (don't wanna link to their site though)
― StanM, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Alfred, do you think Obama should work on repealing DOMA before or after he gets to work on the economy, energy independence, and, say, getting the troops home from Iraq? I say this with the belief that DOMA is bullshit.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link