Classic Or Dud: Laurie Anderson's "O Superman"

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Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Giant-size classic, of course. I don't hear it as wannabe-quirky at all - it's far, far too SAD for that. Aching. The "hold me, Mom" part especially. The whole album is pretty good too, with "From the Air," "Let X=X" and whatever it is that the latter segues into being downright excellent.

Anyone ever taken on the entire United States Live box? I own it but have never been quite willing to set aside the, what, four hours it calls for...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 November 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably top 10 songs of 1981.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 21 November 2005 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
The breathy backing track would be very useful in holotropic breathwork.

This is a heartbreaking commentary on sadness -pity some peopl
e miss this.

Brian Naughton, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hhm0NHhCBg

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 28 August 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Peanut Butter Wolf open a DJ set with this once!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 28 August 2006 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link

sweet classic beautiful melancholy

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Monday, 28 August 2006 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i wonder if derrick may listens to laurie anderson

the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Monday, 28 August 2006 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i like "born, never asked" a lot more than "o superman"

the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Monday, 28 August 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"Example #22" has always been my favorite song on that album, for some reason.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 28 August 2006 08:23 (seventeen years ago) link

When it came out, i bought it, just another 45 that had had a good write-up.
Now i think of it as a great little package, an objet d'art, the 45 that blitzed the medium.

I wrote elsewhere here about how i thought the "b-side" was so cool, with no indication of speed on the label, so "walk the dog" was too fast at 45 and too slow at 33. Such a playful song.

as though the a-side is the "serious art", respectful of minimalist tastes and suitably poised, a bit like a requiem or hymn, at home in the concert hall

and the other side, "walk the dog", is the playful, rock'n'roll, extended mix of that unique sound, musings on culture, what's accepted as "music" these days, etc. etc..

So that little 45 provided multiple contexts, a mini anderson show across two sided, a work-out for the new musical ideas...

So i have to take "o'Superman" as a modern double a-side, an art event on 45 that includes _both_ songs as balanced parts, ..

ie "Walk the Dog" should always be considered included in discussions of "O Superman", Laurie Anderson's extraordinary first single.

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 28 August 2006 09:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this song. Caught it on TV at random and hurried to find it online after. I'm not such a huge fan of Big Science but this track is just really haunting and powerful. Classic!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 28 August 2006 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link

"Born, Never Asked" is beter than "O Superman", but "O Superman" is still classic

I remember in fourth grade, for P.E. class, we had to make up some sort of dance and perform it in front of the class (no, I don't understand it either -- maybe they were just trying to see if they could somehow make P.E. even more embarrassing?) and I did mine to "Born, Never Asked". I think that officially makes me the dorkiest fourth-grader ever.

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Monday, 28 August 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

True.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 28 August 2006 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. Just incredibly moving. Album is about 3/4 very good too. I saw her NASA show a couple years ago & I thought it was fantastic.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 28 August 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, that NASA show was really good. I have seen her once a decade since the 80's (i.e. 3 times).

I also like what George said upthread about how the song needs to be looked at in the context of "double a-side" single.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic, especially for the descending bass synths during the 'in your petrochemical arms' section, although From The Air is even better. Born Never Asked was better served by the good folk of Spiritualized.

Zeno Piston's Cruel Cartoon (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

best 9/11 premonition song ever.

Public Radio (public_radio), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

ah-ah, The The's Armageddon Days (are here again) is just about the most OTM premonition of the entire conflict ever written...and it was written in (correct me if I'm wrong) 1988.

Zeno Piston's Cruel Cartoon (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I see reading ability escapes you (ie, 9/11 vs. 'entire conflict').

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

'entire conflict' incorporates 9/11, that being the first action of the aforementioned contretemps.

Zeno Piston's Cruel Cartoon (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I see you are a ninja of the obvious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ninja of the obvious? That's about as poorly formed an insult as "I see reading ability escapes you"

Public Radio (public_radio), Monday, 28 August 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

He's varying his wit to suit his targets, innit.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm... oh that wasn't even directed at me. sorry, my reading ability escapes me sometimes.

So back to the song: This song is such a classic! I wish I could find other songs that compared to it. So haunting, so great.

Public Radio (public_radio), Monday, 28 August 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I find it reminiscent in many ways of Pink Floyd's Welcome To The Machine.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i like "born, never asked" a lot more than "o superman"

me too!! but 'o superman' still classic.

IT'S MINIMALISM, ASSHOLES. (haitch), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

In the 80s, an ex-girlfriend of mine saw a woman who looked just like Laurie Anderson in an airport, so she approached her, and the woman said, "No, I'm not Laurie Anderson, but people tell me I look a lot like her," in THAT VOICE. Are you really going to call Laurie Anderson on denying she's Laurie Anderson? No. So they had a lengthy conversation following on from that premise, discussing, among other things, the music career of Laurie Anderson.

Such a Laurie Anderson thing to do.

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I be a ninja of the obvious too?

factcheckr (factcheckr), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

COME JOIN THE COVENANT

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i like all those other songs people are mentioning but none of them are as good as O Soop.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I'm surprised at Sundar's skepticism about the lyrics! People here have already rooted out some of the great stuff about them, so I won't go too far into it. But the bit of them that seems to have the most resonance in the current decade isn't the planes, so far as I can tell -- it's that asking to fall into the loving embrace of the big strong American automatic/electronic/petrochemical mom, and of course the stuff that leads up to it: "When love is gone, there's always justice; and when justice is gone, there's always force; and when force is gone, there's always mom."

Having just watched the video again, though, I think the amazing thing about this isn't really in lyrics or meaning or symbols, or anything. We can kind of hint around the "atmosphere" or the "sound" of the thing, bu it's hard to describe exactly what's going on with it: I think its stillness and repetition -- and the odd way it feels soothing where you'd think it'd feel incredibly tense and irritating -- have this strange effect of sensitizing you. You very quickly stop experiencing it with the attention span of a normal pop song, and instead slow things down, focusing on each little gesture in turn, concentrating on a whole different level -- hence, in the video, she can use this language of really minimal gestures, where watching her (say) make a fist seems like all you need for the moment. It's a really enjoyable mindset to get into.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 23 September 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

And the voice said:
This is the hand, the hand that takes

onimo, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I need to turn repeat on.

onimo, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

nabisco ridiculously otm.

Turangalila, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

still one of the best hit songs of all time and yes, nabisco otm.

the next grozart, Thursday, 18 October 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Laurie Anderson is such a legend.

I know, right?, Thursday, 18 October 2007 09:07 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

nabisco deserves a medal or something for that post

Trik Turner Fan Club President (Tape Store), Saturday, 29 November 2008 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

dud

The Saving Grace of Gospel House (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 November 2008 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ Crazy talk

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 November 2008 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Quite possibly my #1 track (single or otherwise) from 1981.

Soundslike, Saturday, 29 November 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Think outside the box, Rev.

Watch Beer, Drink People (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 29 November 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Fascinating facts: This track was first aired on UK radio on John Peel producer John Walters' Saturday afternoon arts show Walters' Weekly. Apparently a big favorite with UK serial killer Dennis Nilsen.

Soukesian, Saturday, 29 November 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Being called 'musically poor' by Momus is like...being called irritating by a barber shop quartet featuring Damon Albarn, Brett Anderson, Liam Gallagher and Robbie Williams.

LOLOLOL

roxymuzak, Saturday, 29 November 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

momus is great

Trik Turner Fan Club President (Tape Store), Saturday, 29 November 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i love momus, im mainly loling at the barbershop quartet here

roxymuzak, Saturday, 29 November 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

this song's been in my head a lot lately.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm surprised at sund4r's skepticism about the lyrics! People here have already rooted out some of the great stuff about them, so I won't go too far into it. But the bit of them that seems to have the most resonance in the current decade isn't the planes, so far as I can tell -- it's that asking to fall into the loving embrace of the big strong American automatic/electronic/petrochemical mom, and of course the stuff that leads up to it: "When love is gone, there's always justice; and when justice is gone, there's always force; and when force is gone, there's always mom."
Having just watched the video again, though, I think the amazing thing about this isn't really in lyrics or meaning or symbols, or anything. We can kind of hint around the "atmosphere" or the "sound" of the thing, bu it's hard to describe exactly what's going on with it: I think its stillness and repetition -- and the odd way it feels soothing where you'd think it'd feel incredibly tense and irritating -- have this strange effect of sensitizing you. You very quickly stop experiencing it with the attention span of a normal pop song, and instead slow things down, focusing on each little gesture in turn, concentrating on a whole different level -- hence, in the video, she can use this language of really minimal gestures, where watching her (say) make a fist seems like all you need for the moment. It's a really enjoyable mindset to get into.

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 23 September 2006 19:26 (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Completely OTM. This is one of the first songs I can remember ever hearing, but obviously as a tiny infant I didn't realise how remarkable a record it was until I was much older. The whole piece sounds strangely soothing and womblike to me, but in the same way one might feel if placed inside a hermetically sealed bubble and wrapped in white towels by, well, assembly-line robotic arms. The double-entendres of "military arm/petrochemical arm" only struck me the other day while listening back.

It's strange to return to it with critical adult ears, having grown up listening to it in a totally decontextualised, unprejudiced way. But there are certain images that I'm not sure I imagined as a kid or if they're definitely there. The bit wear she says "Smoking or non-smoking" sounds so perfectly syncopated that it phases in exactly the same way as the effect you hear when on a passenger flight.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

this song is so gorgeous. heard it for the first time in like a decade yesterday and was suitably blown away.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link


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