Van Morrison: your views please

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He is almost like a comedy stereotype of the bad-tempered belligerent Ulster Proddie with 12 chips on each shoulder

Tom D., Saturday, 29 September 2007 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

new record is awesome

danbunny, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Gerry's opening post!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i didnt realize there were so many haters..on th new lost highway cd...which th russians have a copy of already..hes loose and sly and fun and fat and good and u should get it maybe

danbunny, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

almost independence day is dope as fuck

clotpoll, Saturday, 4 July 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link

glad to see this has turned into a veedon fleece lovefest. side 1 just blows me away every time. I managed to get it on CD a few years back after a cassette copy wasn't returned to me (never lend favourite albums, even to good friends). Don't know about current availability.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 5 July 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish the doing all of Astral Weeks live US tour was not so expensive(with first dibs to American Express car holders).

curmudgeon, Sunday, 5 July 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Veedon Fleece has come out remastered, with lyrics and two bonus cuts: Twilight Zone and an alternate take of Cul De Sac.

OCONDOR (Pt.1), Monday, 6 July 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

so sad that "Warm Love" clip got removed (a while ago, but still). the only CD I want to actually physically purchase these days is Saint Dominic's Preview--title track might be my favorite-ever Van recording.

Matos W.K., Monday, 6 July 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Misspelled:
Van Morris(s)on: The Smooth Jazz Years

Eazy, Monday, 6 July 2009 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link

they used to play "best of van morrison" in the health food store EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY, till i was sure i would never ever voluntarily listen to the guy again. but a roommate a few years later on insisted i listened to veedon fleece before i wrote the guy off, and i'm glad he did cause it's now one of my all-time favorite albums. reading this thread makes me realize i need to track down some of his other stuff as well (now i'm trying to remember which album it was that i liked almost as much as VF)

messiahwannabe, Monday, 6 July 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I love "Real Real Gone." His eighties and late nineties work needs reevaluation.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2009 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

*in the health food store i worked in for 2 frikkin years

messiahwannabe, Monday, 6 July 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

lindon arden stole the hiiiiighlight!

i wasn't trolling, just being boombastic! (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 6 July 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

would highly recommend Common One to Veedon Fleece fans ... not quite the same deal, but a sorta similar vibe. Anyway, that is probably my fave Post-70s Van record. And I only heard it for the first time last year! Nice, long songs, some jazzier bits, great singing.

tylerw, Monday, 6 July 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

The later stuff is well patchy. Typical track: long slow lugubrious jam, Van grunting and reciting list of poets, gardens wet with rain, etc...
St Dominic's, as mentioned above, has some great things - jackie wilson said, title track, I will be There, some bizarre stuff (lion impressions) and some less memorable stuff towards the end.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 July 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

There is no better brunch album than Poetic Champions Compose.

Eazy, Monday, 6 July 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I have always enjoyed Tupelo Honey (the song).The album is pretty good as well.

Pinto Basin, Monday, 6 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

they used to play "best of van morrison" in the health food store EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY, till i was sure i would never ever voluntarily listen to the guy again

cosign. it took me about a decade to recover

mookieproof, Monday, 6 July 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Put on Common One and then Miles' In a Silent Way. They flow perfectly. If picking up on CD, be sure to to wait for the remastered versions. They aren't coming with an excess of bonus material but a couple tracks and the sound is improved. And they're coming out in no logical order -- starting with His Band and Street Choir up through the past few years. (Van doesn't own Astral Weeks or Moondance outright so they're not part of this...) I don't think St. Dom's is out remastered yet. And to add to the confusion, some are out in the UK, I'm told.

OCONDOR (Pt.1), Monday, 6 July 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Morrison treated his band and crew horribly. In the midst of "Fair Play," one of a handful of non-"Astral" tunes in the set, he decided he didn't like the tempo and screamed at his drummer to switch from brushes to sticks. Morrison was close enough to the microphone that the crowd couldn't avoid taking in the humiliation. He later summoned a roadie to the center of the stage to move his microphone and music stands a few feet away from him, then screamed an obscenity at him while telling him to leave the stage. Then Morrison launched into "In the Garden," a 1986 spiritual glorious enough to get him right with God, flaws and all.

From Dave McKenna's Washington Post review of Morrison on his current Astral Weeks tour

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/07/AR2009080703207.html

curmudgeon, Sunday, 9 August 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha! My friend got a refund from a show on the Astral Weeks tour because he didn't play any songs from Astral Weeks!

Wax Cat, Sunday, 9 August 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm surprised not to see more love for "Moondance" (the album) on here. That strikes me as a solid piece of work - but maybe I'm a sucker for pop-R&B with horn arrangements.

o. nate, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah "Moondance" can't be denied! Might just be too obvious ... but I love that record. So many good songs, wonderful vibe. Some of it is overplayed, but whenever I put it on, I love it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess it's always unfashionable to like something that's universally popular - better to pick out the obscure release only known to hardcore fans. But screw that, I say. Good music is good music.

o. nate, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of obscure, if you only own one Van bootleg, here's the one: http://moonglampers.net/blog/2009/02/10/van-morrison-ksan-1971/ Don't know if the link still works, but seek it out elsewhere, if not!

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

it is sooooo good. "Friday's Child", "Just Like A Woman" ... Can't believe it hasn't been officially released. I vastly prefer it to "It's Too Late ..." (which is good, but not this good)

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

man this is good...though don't talk down about my baby!!! (being it's too late to stop now)

to the sound of old g-dep (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

"Then Morrison launched into "In the Garden," a 1986 spiritual glorious enough to get him right with God, flaws and all."

such a great song. i said this somewhere else last week, but no guru no method no teacher is up there with any of my fave 60's or 70's van records. i love the whole thing from front to back. so beautiful.

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

don't talk down about my baby!!!
no, I don't mean to diss It's Too Late -- that is one of the best live records of the 70s, no doubt. But that bootleg is kinda unbelievable. Wait til you get to the Dylan cover!

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

listening now this is really great.....

sounds different though from It's Too Late, band doesn't seem as big in terms of number of players maybe...

I need No Guru No Method No Teacher and Common One

Is Hard Nose to the Highway good?

to the sound of old g-dep (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/v/van-morrison/album-hard-nose-the-highway.jpg
it's got a terrible cover, but otherwise, yeah, it's good!

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

last song "Purple Heather" is A+ Van

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

"Bein' Green" is kinda C- Van though. Good for the lolz though.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

kermit cover?

to the sound of old g-dep (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, basically. missed opportunity that van never appeared on the muppet show really.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm loving that cover, it reminds me of my other favourite cover:
http://www.torrentportal.com/uploads/images/1153170zucchero%20-%20miserere%20a.jpg

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess it's always unfashionable to like something that's universally popular - better to pick out the obscure release only known to hardcore fans.

If you repeat this often and loud enough, you might transform the second side of Moondance into the near-genius of the first.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

the flipside of HNTH is even wacker
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/6/6/7/3/9/webimg/224999037_tp.jpg
i remember thinking as a kid it made Van look like an X-Man.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

He's Banshee!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess it's always unfashionable to like something that's universally popular - better to pick out the obscure release only known to hardcore fans.

If you repeat this often and loud enough, you might transform the second side of Moondance into the near-genius of the first.

― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:14 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Perma

i love moondance but yeah alfred's point is pretty well taken...actually man...that first side is as good as any a-side to an LP ever....

i like the 2nd half though, but it's more just good solid pleasant Van...the 2nd half reminds me a lot of "his band and street choir"

to the sound of old g-dep (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

http://comicbookbeginners.info/files/xmencostumes/giant-size/banshee-bigcostume1.jpg
you might be onto something there ... Banshee was Irish, right?

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^i think that costume might be similar to what Van wore to the Last Waltz anyway.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

If you repeat this often and loud enough, you might transform the second side of Moondance into the near-genius of the first

First side is genius. Second side is near-genius.

o. nate, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

THEM and only THEM. Sorry, garage rock purist here.

Soukesian, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

heh, fair enough. it is interesting that Van never really returned to that garage rock sound, after having helped invent quite a fair bit of it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

acid is a two edged sword

Soukesian, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

but speaking of THEM, the version of "Friday's Child" on that bootleg I posted up above is sweeeeeeet.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

man this is really swinging man....it's far out!

to the sound of old g-dep (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link


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