Batman carries on beginning in ... The Dark Knight

eric roberts is hilarious and i wish he was in every movie, but in no universe is he better than tom wilkinson

he is as a cartoon mobster

Batman voice ...... gets worse each time you hear it

i had this, until someone on ilx just posited that bruce wayne doesn't want his voice to be recognisable in any way. makes it a lot easier to watch just to think that way about it.

you'd think he'd want to be easily understood, though

DOES HE THOUGH????

makes ya think

can't be too hard to build a vocoder into that suit

t-wayne

i think i underrated this movie at the time; on reflection, the set-pieces, at least early on, were simply better done than the cut-to-shred crap you get from most blockbusters. it is too long, though, and the final thing where batters taps into the matrix or whatever sucked.

the people in the boats should have blown themselves up, let's face it.

wow totally did not even recognize Eric Roberts when I saw this

i think i underrated this movie at the time; on reflection, the set-pieces, at least early on, were simply better done than the cut-to-shred crap you get from most blockbusters. it is too long, though, and the final thing where batters taps into the matrix or whatever sucked.

― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:43 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i agree with this pretty much. the truck set piece was pretty awesome. the supersonic cell phone reality device and the dumb plot point about the ethical conflict it posed was ridiculous.

also the boat thing.

and it really does go on way too long.

but that IMAX stuff in the theater was like sheeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

Batman Begins is better, it's a smart, slick action film that doesn't park itself in the middle of a convoluted moral maze from which it has no clue how to remove itself.

I'm all for big entertainment dabbling in big ideas, but it should be done in a less ham-fisted and muddled way than in The Dark Knight. This isn't to say I didn't enjoy a lot about the film.

batman begins = great first 1/2, kinda goes downhill once he actually becomes batman. dude learned how to do actions scenes better for TDK.

the truck set piece WAS surprisingly good - i think the problem with most action scenes w/batman is that the suit is so bulky and impractical you end up having to shoot around it

I'd have to watch it again to be sure, but I think the opening heist might well be the best set-piece.

no batsuit in that !

The opening heist is really well-choreographed and filmed, it really can stand alone outside of the movie

it did!

remember when they showed it instead of a trailer

I really need to rewatch this movie; I wonder if I'd like it as much the second time.

most action scenes w/batman is that the suit is so bulky and impractical you end up having to shoot around it

He really is just a walking poo that talks like cookie monster. Too bad they offed every supporting character that's younger than Gary Oldman - unless they bring in a bunch of new stars Batman himself actually has to be awesome next time.

think they're gonna do robin?

i think bat man is going to "do" robin....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i can't imagine christopher nolan going there. but as much as catwoman seems obvious (sexual tension would be a new element), bale could NOT do his colicky thing when bantering with her in costume.

lol xpost

They should skip Robin and go straight to Nightwing

go "straight" to night wing more like go.... "not straight" to night wing......................!!!!!!!!!!!!

("gay")

killing joke more like gay homos

― Esteban Buttez!!, Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:33 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark

They should skip Robin and go straight to Nightwing

― living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:16 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is this a joke or

It's serious. Change the Nightwing character to be a competing vigilante rather than a former protogee and put the two of them in conflict; alternately, if Batman already has a competing anti-hero in the comics, use that character instead (not familiar enough with the Batman rogue's gallery to know if there's someone who fits that bill aside from Catwoman and I am kind of DO NOT WANT re: more sexual bat-tension).

i think both of the nolan batman flicks have dope, for the most part, occasional ridiculousness aside. i've liked all the villains so far and i like this presentation of gotham more than the burton ones, but then again i'm not really a big burton fan either.

i'd rather see a lovely lady prancing around the rooftops than other grim-faced bro

xp

("than another")

The opening heist is really well-choreographed and filmed, it really can stand alone outside of the movie

― mh, Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:51 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, i've actually re-watched the opening heist a few times, just cuz

ugh I appear to be suggesting they use red Hood, which um no vigilantes named after the clitoris in my movies, plz

xp: I agree on a base level re: "moar lovely ladies plz" but I don't think the story is as interesting, mostly because we've already seen Burton's version of it in "Batman Returns" (also IMO Burton's best film).

alternately, if Batman already has a competing anti-hero in the comics, use that character instead (not familiar enough with the Batman rogue's gallery to know if there's someone who fits that bill aside from Catwoman and I am kind of DO NOT WANT re: more sexual bat-tension)

Ben Foster is....ANARKY!!!

actually Anarky might be interesting

xp: lol I swear I just looked this dude up and read about him

The Burton films have unbelievable art direction but kind've rubbish stories. The first one barely has a plot at all; Batman and The Joker have a few fights, that's it.

an anarky-based plot would allow them to acknowledge a lot of minor entries in the rogue's gallery, something i wish more superhero films would do in a montage or something. have him trying to bump off a stream of flamboyant crimebosses and thugs who took on goofy identities after the joker's cultural moment (ventriloquist, maxie zeus, mad hatter, etc).

I'd love to see Anarky in the next Batman movie, but he's probaby considered too corny for Nolan's "dark" Batman.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Too obscure maybe, but they used THE SCARECROW in the first movie.

the bat man

Too obscure maybe, but they used THE SCARECROW in the first movie.

yeah, and Ras Al-Ghul, who is also not at the top of the name-recognition pile

I'd prefer Nolan invent a new villain. The rest of the comic's villains all seem to pale next to the Joker.

Also, Nolan hates Robin.

Thank god. I just don't see how Robin could work well in this universe.

There's the Dark Knight take, where Robin is a kid emulating Batman who gets taken in as a ward/trainee after saving his ass (but yeah DO NOT WANT Robin).