Why Vinyl Can't Survive

... isn't it?

I've lived with one person who had this setup -- very handy -- while the good Mr. Donut has similar at his place.

Veteran singer Bob Dylan has called the quality of modern music recordings "atrocious" and "worth nothing".

In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine, the 65-year-old said: "There's no definition of nothing, no nothing, just like... static".

Dylan, who is to release his first studio album in five years, added that his music sounded better in the studio.

He also failed to denounce illegal music downloads, saying: "Well, why not? It ain't worth nothing anyway."

'No stature'

"You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them," he said.

"I don't know anybody who's made a record that sounds decent in the past 20 years, really.

"CDs are small, there's no stature to it," added Dylan, who has released eight studio albums in the past 20 years and 44 official albums during the course of his career.

His new release, Modern Times, features 10 original tracks recorded by the musician and his touring band last winter.

Dylan plays keyboard, guitar and harmonica as well as singing on the record.

So you're saying that you don't do cocaine all night?

Thank you NYT for the cheesy vinyl's back article.
Thank you 200X 90's indie rock nostalgia culture bullshit.
Thank you pre-holiday season bullshit.

I was able to sell off most of my vinyl last night for the price of a decent used car.

That is all.

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That Resident Advisor article is dismal.

It's also not wrong.

I hope you bought those owls with your profits, Mackro.

Never going out of style.

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I was able to sell off most of my vinyl last night for the price of a decent used car.

Just out of professional curiosity, about how many pieces was the collection?

and how many miles was on the car?

You are going to miss those records 10 years from now, trust me.

i think more ppl should sell their old records so i can buy them

You are going to miss those records 10 years from now, trust me.

Mackro can speak for himself but I'm plenty positive he won't.

i think more ppl should sell their old records so i can buy them

― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:54 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM

I was just thinking of selling off most of my own vinyl last night, in fact. I've got about a couple boxes of it that I just never touch. I'm curious as to how Mackro chose to sell his stuff?

I would buy all these used vinyls

Bimble would be crazy to sell as he is the type that in a few years would want to play it again and regret selling.

It also depends on how rare the record is. I buy old dance records that had short runs on small labels, I have sold records that I am never going to see again unless they get bootlegged.

The other thing that drives me nuts is how much a lot of not great records are worth these days. I have sold more 30 dollar records for a buck in store credit than I care to count.

That being said, I have also sold a shit ton of records and cd's that I never think about/don't even remember owning. I guess I am saying that you should be very careful about what you get rid of because I find myself haunted by the handful that got away.

The story is: I realized I was never going to DJ at clubs anymore, much less DJ using vinyl. I'm approaching my late 30s. There's tons of new blood who are far more connected with bars to get DJ gigs than I am. More to the point, I was still able to hold a weekly (as a sub for Matos) just using two iPods.

I think it's cool that there are younger kids who want to spin out records, have their friends look at them. I wish I could be in that position, but I'm now too old for that.. not mentally but physically. I'm a fucking grandpa now.

I only sold everything that I already had on CD or I know is available on iTunes or Amazon, no matter how rare or not it was. (I sold my Silver Apples LPs for example... that's wow I got many pretty pennies. I mean, I have the two-fer CD for Silver Apples. I didn't lose their music!)

My next phase is to digitize the never-got-to-digital-format stuff, then sell that off. After that, sell off the CDs. It will be a while, but this was part one of the plan.

I know, tl;dr lol

i do think there's an interesting spin-off from this, though: regardless of the fact you "didn't lose their music", you're obviously no longer so concerned about the actual OMG RARE ARTEFACT quality of the silver apples stuff. and i think that's got a lot to do with the changed way we consume music ... i mean, sure, someone was always going to be the iconoclast (or just the skint dude going, fuck, i need to flog my records) but i know i feel very differently now about what was once a treasured collection of vinyl.

for fuck's sake, i can't even remember the last time i played an actual record.

the fact it's easier to make high-quality digital copies isn't, i think, the key issue here (because it's not even what you've done); what really matters is the fact that the physical artefact is no longer seen as THE MUSIC.

I like records. for example just the other day I was cracking up at the merch/hip-hop gear offered in the liner notes of my copy of EPMD's "Business As Usual"

Grimly, you're pretty much OTM with me.

That said, I did keep about a dozen boxes of records, but mainly things, mostly dirt cheap, that I would never see again in any format if I were to sell it. Mostly Incredibly Strange Music fodder.

And I did NOT sell my very first record: "The Harmony Of The Worlds". That was my very first record -- an astronomical data records. It changed my life, although I didn't know it at the time. And that record will die long after I die if I can help it.

I guess my point is: I still do very much have the OMG THE ARTIFACT! attitude towards vinyl. What's changed is: I don't need to have that attachment to so many goddamn artifacts anymore all around me, especially if they're in my way.

cue Sanford and Son music

more and more i just can't stand listening to mp3s at all unless it's like work and that's my only choice.

it just doesn't seem worth even taking the time to listen to when it sounds so robbed of so much. like watching a great movie on an ipod screen or something.

i don't have a problem with MP3s per se, just a problem with my shitty laptop speakers.

also, i collect but try not to hoard vinyl. i sell things all the time. i sold 20 records or so this week, got enough for a week's worth of lunches with some $$ leftover to buy a baggie of weed.

a good culling once a year is a good thing. like do i really need this late 70s pretty things record? how the hell did i get this marshall crenshaw record?...that sort of thing

yeah I cull stuff pretty regularly. then my wife gets mad that I want to get rid of those Linda Ronstadt records from her mom that she never listens to.

I need to get on Ebay.
Saw a Daniel Johnston record in a Time-Lag update listed for 90 dollars.
I got a copy for fifty cents.

i have a VG++ heart like a wheel ORIG PRESS VERY CLEAN by linda...i accept paypal :)

more and more i just can't stand listening to mp3s at all unless it's like work and that's my only choice.
it just doesn't seem worth even taking the time to listen to when it sounds so robbed of so much.

did you have to really concentrate to notice the quality defecit or did you just notice it straight away (from say 256k/s up)?

while i think Grimly's OTM about the changing state of how we feel about collecting music, in my case my treasures have gone from being the OMG ARTEFACT to being the "backup". I do think that many folks have switched from thinking of the physical item as THE MUSIC, i also feel many of those folks switch back to their previous view once their HD crashes and they lose all their tunes.

like watching a great movie on an ipod screen or something

see, i watch more movies now on my iPhone than i do on any other type of screen. i am time-poor but gadget-rich. and -- oddly, for someone who's spent 12 years in a job that's effectively about maintaining unrealistically and often unnecessarily high standards of quality within an industry that doesn't give a shit -- i don't care at all about what i'm missing.

sorry, everyone.

Never trust anyone who likes Keane :)

hahahahahahahah :)

i'm not saying it's like, immoral or something, do what you want to do. watch shit, listen to shit...just for me...i would rather just listen to something of better sound quality...but what's important to me doesn't have to be important to everyone else.

i just get annoyed when ppl suggest that vinyl is just an object/collector fetish when my own ears tell me a very different story.

i have an ipod and watch movies on PSP on flights fwiw

the 'film on iphone' comparison is more like why would you compromise sound quality by listening to it with standard earphones

i just get annoyed when ppl suggest that vinyl is just an object/collector fetish when my own ears tell me a very different story.

yeah that's some bullshit. I have a ton of MP3s that sound horrible. I have some records that sound horrible too, to be fair. I also have some records that sound AMAAAAAAAAAZING. I do not have any MP3s that sound amazing.

but anyways who cares? i hope ppl do what they want and yes sell them records off! they are an albatross around your neck!!

my stereo isn't good enough to surface the differences btw high-bitrate music files, cd, and vinyl.

;_;

i just took the test here: http://mp3ornot.com/

picked the wrong one

altho i should've gone with my initial judgement which was the opposite

i got it, but it was a guess, or felt like one. couldn't consciously hear a difference.

the fact its louder gave it away i thought