CLUSTER: I have fallen in love with this band, please help

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April 15th – Camden Underworld, London, England

any promoters reading this -- I'm hoping for US shows. Roedelius is coming to the US later this year, it shouldn't be too costly to fly Moebius over for a few Cluster shows

I saw them three times on the 96 tour and all three shows were stronger overall than the two albums they put out documenting that tour -- the records concentrated on the mellower moments, in concert they went a little further out

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
did anyone go? anyone seen any reviews?

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

so hard to find an affordable copy of "cluster II" ... come on water, pick it up!

also weird that so many of the outlets that carried "eno + cluster" and "begegnungen i" and "begegnungen ii" (love the first one) declined to pick up "sowieso" ... but i guess that's the power of being a U2 collaborator for you.

how is the newest moebius solo ("nurton")? i've seen it in a lot of bargain electronica bins ...

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

there's talk of nurton upthread. haven't returned to it much but some good bits in the last third.

the new reissues of begegnungen I & II seem to omit track info, making it even more difficult for people to tell that those are compilations from group & solo albums, and not the quartet collaborating on every track. kinda hate that. every single album those comps are sourcing from is worth tracking down.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought II was a comp and I was an album?!?!

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

both compilations.

the first editions didn't mention which albums the tracks were taken from , but at least it listed which artists contributed which tracks. the new reissues just list the tracks, making it seem that everyone's on each track

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

geek fact: Shiina Ringo includes a quiet sample of Cluster's 'Seltsame Gegand' from Curiosum at the very end of her song 'Identity'. listen for the final Möbi-chirp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdvOj5FQOW8

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

german blogger babelfished on the Paris show this month:

I left myself mental ever more deeply down-slide into the labyrinth from tones and fantasies and horchte up only if a piece were times terminated and the applause of the public a break formed. Occasionally I used also the opportunity to take in or other photo. Pieces of "sugar time" I recognized by the way none, however no miracle, becausethe set consisted to the majority of new, yet veroeffentlchten pieces...

During well the 70-minuetigen of concert I did not bore myself a second, despite the kontemplativen character of the music. In the opposite, I found that high-inspiring and excitingly all. I believe it to the other spectators also very well fell, her donated long lasting applause. Moebius and Roedelius gave themselves the hand briefly and thank you scarcely in national language: "Merci!, Merci beaucoup ".

http://meinzuhausemeinblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/cluster-paris-180507.html

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Roedelius is coming to the US in October. I don't see any other shows scheduled besides two in Big Sur, which I can make, but seeing as he and Moebius seem to be playing together again, it seems like one extra plane ticket for Moebius is all it would take for a handful of US Cluster appearences, so I sure hope some electronic-music-loving promoter has enough of their business together to make something happen soon

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Let's talk about the records with Eno.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Or...not.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

All 3 Kluster (Schnitzler, Roedelius, Moebius) albums - 'Klopfzeichen', 'Zwei Osterei', and 'Schwarz' are fantastic.

I take issue with the characterization of Zwei Osterei as fantastic - unless your definition of fantastic encompasses side-long tracks of a monotonous male voice intoning in German with faint buzzy electronic sounds in the background.

o. nate, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

the speaker isnt monotonous at all! hes just very, very serious, which, given the nonsensical cut-up sermon hes reading, is funny as hell.

, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

you'd think those Cluster/Eno collabs. would be great. but they aren't. dry and boring compared w/ Cluster lps.

nerve_pylon, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

which, given the nonsensical cut-up sermon hes reading, is funny as hell

Unfortunately, not being a German speaker, the comedy is lost on me.

o. nate, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

reposted from upthread

http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Clusterdiscs01.htm
http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Clusterdiscs02.htm

the Kluster records aren't the most inviting or accessible, but I think they're really effective for what they are, and with every passing year of recent noise / drone shows and CDRs they sound better and better. when I started hearing Yellow Swans drone records, the Kluster CDs are the first things I thought of. Eruption is the one without recitations if you find the vocals too distracting.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

tour pushed to spring

in other old news that I missed --

moebius & neumeier 'zero set II' -- http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/html/item/002/114/item241559.html

I read somewhere that this was a japanese reissue of 2003's 'live in japan', which I haven't returned to much, but it's a new album and the samples sound promising

I've also been playing moebius' 'nurton' from last year and it is definitely a grower

Milton Parker, Thursday, 20 September 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

um wtf is up with that 6CD box set on Captain Trip, is that stuff legit? looks like it was also released as separate discs.

sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2007 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the Eno/Cluster stuff, but that's the only Cluster I've heard. I need to go out and get some more...

flamingrev, Friday, 21 September 2007 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link

You should, you really should..

Milton, where did you get that tour info news? Does that regard the entire tour or just the North American dates?

willem, Friday, 21 September 2007 07:21 (sixteen years ago) link

just the North American dates are being pushed back, so they can do it right. friends are trying to book them in SF.

Captain Trip's pretty legit, they started releasing Moebius & Dinger solo projects in the 90's and now they've worked up to Schnitzler, Pinhas & Cluster reissues. the choices of what they're grouping together for the boxes is a little random though:

BOX 1 - six discs
CLUSTER / '71 / Sowiesoso / Grosses Wasser / Curiosum
MOEBIUS + BEERBOHM / Strange Music / Double Cut

BOX 2 - five discs
CLUSTER & ENO / same
ENO - MOEBIUS - ROEDELIUS / After The Heat
MOEBIUS + ROEDELIUS / Apropos Cluster
CLUSTER / One Hour
MOEBIUS & PLANK / En Route

Box 1 is solid (not everyone loves those Moebius & Beerbohm records but I definitely do -- first one has live punk drumming & instruments, and the side two of 'double cut' is 1982 minimal techno). the last three in box 2 have been out of print for over a decade so it's nice to have them back but those are definitely three of their weaker albums all in a row

Milton Parker, Saturday, 22 September 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Got my Captain Trip reissues of Sowiesoso, '71, and Curiosum last week. The sound is definitely an improvement over the older versions I've got. They're probably worth $20 just for the magical shrunken down LP format.

Also, Lilith have now released Zuckerzeit, Cluster II, Musik Von Harmonia and Deluxe on LP/CD. I think they're using the same tapes as the German Universal versions from a few years ago, but it's nice to have LP's of these. Plus, liner notes by Asmus Tietchens in delightfully botched English and Cyrillic.

s. morris, Friday, 5 October 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the Lilith "Zuckerzeit" reissue and it sounds fantastic. Is there a difference between the Captain Trip and Water versions of "Sowiesoso"?

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 5 October 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

stupid to have 3 labels reissuing the same shit while roedelius solo albums remain oop

am0n, Friday, 5 October 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Captain Trip's Sowiesoso is supposedly a remastered version, but who knows? I think Water's released were remastered, too.

Agree with am0n. Does anyone know what the hell Captain Trip mean when they put "EMBARGO!" by Roedelius' Jardin Au Fou on their website? Just an awkward way of telling me "not for you!" or are they saying it's sold out? Does it mean that somewhere in the world (like, say, Japan) you can still get it? So frustrating!

s. morris, Friday, 5 October 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe I have to buff up my trade relations with Captain Trip before I get a copy.

s. morris, Friday, 5 October 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Cluster (Moebius & Roedelius) performing live at Dampfzentrale Bern 15. September 2007 feat. Dorit Chrysler on Theremin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrQ7jLjb24

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

including that last minute of solo Dorit wasn't the best way to end that montage, but rest of it sounds good to me

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://kraut-team.blogspot.com/2007/10/krautrockteam_7048.html

re: the authenticity of 'Cluster & Eno live Metz 1977' as discussed upthread - this sounds right to me

Greatings from Dennis in South Africa

I listened to the two 1977 pieces , with interest. I should perhaps first explain that I used to be in close personal contact with Hans Joachim Roedelius ( of Cluster ) through the late Seventies and early eighties. I immediately recognised the music and extracted my own tape out of my archives.

My recording was sent direct to me by Roedelius soon after the event. Please note it was performed by Cluster ( Moebius and Roedelius only ) without the involvement of Brian Eno. Also that it was recorded on the 23rd September 1977 , not during November. The music that was performed was from a concert at the Metz Sci Fi festival : in France , but quite some distance from Paris. The full recording is quite a bit longer than that uploaded.

...

Hope this helps to set the record straight

Thanks to Dennis

Conan

Milton Parker, Friday, 9 November 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Apr 18 2008 8:00P Queen Elisabeth Hall London
May 10 2008 8:00P Palazzo Dei Congressi Rome
May 11 2008 8:00P Camber Sands Rye
May 16 2008 8:00P Detroit Institute of Arts Detroit
May 17 2008 8:00P Knitting Factory New York
May 22 2008 8:00P CINESPIA at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery Los Angeles
May 23 2008 8:00P Henry Miller Library Big Sur
May 24 2008 8:00P Brookdale Lodge Santa Cruz
May 25 2008 8:00P Great American Music Hall San Francisco

Milton Parker, Friday, 15 February 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

=(

am0n, Friday, 15 February 2008 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Good lord of jesus, May in L.A.???!!!

*faints*

Bimble, Saturday, 16 February 2008 07:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I was planning a trip to Hollywood in May! GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO GOT TO GO!

Bimble, Saturday, 16 February 2008 08:04 (sixteen years ago) link

isn't it Harmonia that are playing that tour, not Cluster?

unless you said that up thread and I'm lazy.

Hamildan, Saturday, 16 February 2008 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

one of the 9 shows theyre doing is in detroit!!!! howd we manage that?!

filthy dylan, Saturday, 16 February 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Floristree
May, 18 2008 CLUSTER w/ Keith Fullerton Whitman, Daniel Higgs, Blues Control, Axolotl and more TBA
Not Available , Baltimore, Maryland
Cost :

am0n, Saturday, 12 April 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

<i> "Apr 18 2008 8:00P Queen Elisabeth Hall London" </i>

I am stoked about this concert.

so much that I am using expressions for excitement, not seen this side of the millennium.

Hamildan, Monday, 14 April 2008 08:36 (sixteen years ago) link

or able to do italics properly.

Hamildan, Monday, 14 April 2008 08:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Baltimore:

http://www.wildfirewildfirerecords.com/CLUSTERWEB.jpg

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=81708068&blogID=378857046

FLORISTREE SPACE IS PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE LINE-UP FOR THE INAUGURAL FULL HOUSE FEST. THIS ONE DAY EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE ON SUNDAY MAY 18TH IN THE HEART OF THE BEAUTIFUL PORT CITY OF BALTIMORE, MD. THE FESTIVAL WAS CURATED AROUND THE RARE US APPEARANCE OF KRAUTROCK/AMBIENT PIONEERS CLUSTER. THE RESIDENTS OF FLORISREE DECIDED THAT RATHER THAN HAVING A NORMAL SHOW, WE WOULD PAY HOMAGE TO THE IMPACT OF THESE LIVING LEGENDS BY CURATING A DAY-LONG EVENT THAT HIGHLIGHTS CLUSTER'S WIDE REACHING INFLUENCE AND SPIRIT IN CONTEMPORARY AMERICAN MUSIC. THE FESTIVAL WILL RUN FROM 4PM TIL MIDNIGHT WITH A SUNSET PERFORMANCE BY OUR GUESTS OF HONOR.

LINE-UP IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:

CLUSTER (kraut-rock legends)

BLUES CONTROL (Holy Mountain)

ERIC COPELAND (of Black Dice, Paw Tracks)

KEITH FULLERTON WHITMAN (Kranky)

DANIEL HIGGS (of Lungfish, Holy Mountain)

TICKLY FEATHER (Paw Tracks)

AXOLOTL (Important)

SUSAN ALCORN (Olde English Spelling Bee)

BLACK VATICAN (Locust)

AFTERNOON PENIS (of Mouthus)

CAGUAMAS (of The Peppermints, Paw Tracks)

PONCE ROCKET (Delaware)

ADVANCE TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW FOR $15 OR $20 AT THE DOOR. CAPACITY FOR THIS EVENT WILL BE KEPT AT 400.

Russell, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

already posted

am0n, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

oh wait, advance tickets? huh.

am0n, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.donutsparty.com/ac.html

the Berlin September 2007 live show is evidently being released on Important in one month

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

target?

omar little, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

even Target knew about the new Cluster album before I did

also looks like Schnitzler has a new group he's calling 'Kluster 2007', a bit iffy even if he was the founder of the original Kluster. Important's putting out two 1971 recordings by 'Kluster' (lineup Schnitzler / Freudigmann / Seidel) which is a little confusing because I thought that trio released under the name Eruption and Kluster had officially broken up after Roedelius & Moebius took off, but... well Schnitzler can do whatevers

http://fancymoon.com/mrs/index.php?c=14-

Milton Parker, Thursday, 17 April 2008 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still seething with disgust at my sluggish assed self for not getting it together to buy tickets for the harmonia south bank show, if anyone hears of a spare ticket, please post here

cw, Thursday, 17 April 2008 07:53 (sixteen years ago) link

me too. as it is i'm considering going all the way to birmingham to see them in july instead...

braveclub, Thursday, 17 April 2008 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

still a little on-the-fence on Schnitzler calling these Kluster records instead of Eruption 1971 records. but I have to admit -- one of them, Vulcano, does sound a lot like the first 3 Kluster records -- recorded live with the same instruments and equipment. there's more atonal flute, and it takes about 20 minutes for them to really get going (out of 60+ total), but if you like the instrumental sides of the other Kluster, this is worth it.

the other one, Admira, is studio sessions, much higher fidelity. most tracks are purely space / textural sounds, though with recognizable instruments, drums / guitar / violin / organ. there's one straight-up krautrock track with drummer accellerandos, freakout guitar & everything. last twenty minutes are a weird open-string violin & delay solo spread across 5 tracks and it's beyond minimal, but interesting

I file the first three Kluster albums before my Cluster discs, but these are getting filed before the other Schnitzler discs

their website published some pretty interesting recollections about West Berlin psychedelia i.e. the music that later started getting called Krautrock, I wish these had been included in the packaging

http://www.importantrecords.com/releases/imprec180_release_page.htm
http://www.importantrecords.com/releases/imprec179_release_page.htm

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm starting to get nervous about how the L.A. tickets haven't gone on sale yet. I'm trying to check www.donutsparty.com every day, but if someone more in-the-know hears that they have gone on sale, please post here or email me or something. Thanks.

Bimble, Thursday, 8 May 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

got tix to see them at no fun fest so psyched

sleep, Thursday, 8 May 2008 04:05 (fifteen years ago) link


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