Sarko vs. Royal, Don't Read if You Don't Give A Phoque About French Presidential Politics

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Cu9187tCY

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicholas and Tony, sitting in a tree, k.i.s.s.i.n.g...

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ohlala, blair's accent is unbearable, i mean, he clearly has worked on it, but it's so anglophone.. hahaha

daria-g, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I might be proud of them for rioting. I'd have to read more about it though.

Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

ohlala, blair's accent is unbearable, i mean, he clearly has worked on it, but it's so anglophone.. hahaha

Possibly, but at least Blair speaks French. Sarkozy doesn't speak English. Which seems quite bizarre, in this day and age.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Did Chirac speak English?

Tom D., Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes. Not spectacularly well, but good enough to be interviewed on CNN.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Cartoon in a Belgian paper today: "celebratory fires after Sarkozy's election"

http://i16.tinypic.com/4p3rywm.jpg

StanM, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

;_;

kv_nol, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

French people be riotin'

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 10:45 (sixteen years ago) link

politicians should study Sarko's campaign.

how the f*ck a right-wing candidate, after decades of conservative rule, could position himself as the guy who will shake up the status quo - i mean it's a coup of logic. it's amazing.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Which US republicans are going to be cribbing his style?

Ed, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Because he is presenting himself as a radical (neo-liberal) right-winger and not a conservative right-winger?

Tom D., Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

It has to be said that Chirac/Villepin played the meme as well, presenting themselves as some sort of continuity and upholders of the "French model", leaving Sarkozy to run with "rupture".

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/489916019_e1cc6e1b99_o.jpg

Ed, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

how the f*ck a right-wing candidate, after decades of conservative rule, could position himself as the guy who will shake up the status quo - i mean it's a coup of logic. it's amazing.

Blair managed it.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Dude! What's with the gurn?

http://i13.tinypic.com/4yiv5f4.jpghttp://i10.tinypic.com/67gyfxi.jpg

StanM, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

This made me feel a bit better.

Sarkozy does look like something out of Asterix and Obelix there. What's wrong with hus teeth one wonders.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

"I don't see myself as First Lady - the whole idea bores me "

hilarious! I hope she said it with sunglasses posed on the end of her nose and puffed a cigarette for punctuation. She's a sexy lady

King Kitty, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i think stevem, should be told, about this thread.

-- That one guy that quit, Sunday, 6 May 2007 23:43 (1 week ago)


?

blueski, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

NRQ just wanted you to be up to speed with French politics. Nice chap.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

most odd.

blueski, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i had this somewhat explained to me yesterday! and read some of a french mainstream news magazine in which there were also political cartoons.

however, i still have no patience for politics/politicians or conversations abt politics :/
am into issues. e.g., i cannot believe the french educational system

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

What's wrong with the French educational system?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

parents are responsible for their kids until they are 25 yrs old, everyone pretty much has to go to some kind of post-highschool education even though it may be of dubious quality and sometimes only there to keep kids 'off the streets' or off welfare, yet when they graduate they can't nec find a job in their field (unemployment is high despite 'educated' workers), more minor but ugh - kids get a half-day on wednesday but have to go to school on saturday, etc.

basically that the bureaucracy seems out of hand/control, to me, but i am not french obv and am increasingly frustrated by bureaucracy in general. and obv i do not know a lot abt french politics in the first place, so in fact am not actually criticizing but rather am just being 'whoa' about it from my own point of view and am actually spending my criticism dollars on the canadian system.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom D. that's a good point.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

But sort of tautological.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Certainly the left is as capable of 'conservatism' as much as the right, inasmuch as they wish to conserve the 'acquis sociaux' and don't wish to liberalize labor, pension, and other laws. Considering that the Gaullist right and the socialist left have both been less than enthusiastic about free-trade and laissez-faire economics, portraying oneself as more libertarian economically can be seen as more 'reformist' if you buy that narrative. Lots of French people do, apparently, but I think by American or British standards, Sarko is more of a Blair than a Thatcher.

Michael White, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"how the f*ck a right-wing candidate, after decades of conservative rule, could position himself as the guy who will shake up the status quo - i mean it's a coup of logic. it's amazing."

bob roberts!!

Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

sarko otm:

http://emmanuelle-romania2004.buzznet.com/user/photos/?id=12677001

gff, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha ha!

Michael White, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Well <a href="http://tracerhand.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/french-dna-testing-for-immigrants/";>this</a> is a novel idea. (Note shameless spamming.)

I think the reason I'm not doing commentary on that site is that stuff like this honestly just leaves me speechless.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

GAH

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

this

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:35 (sixteen years ago) link

And like I said, speechless.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:35 (sixteen years ago) link

It is all sarkozy's Fault

Ed, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I really would love to know what they imagine will be done from a privacy standpoint with this data.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

bump

iatee, Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Hollande - 28%, Sarko - 26%, friggin 20% for Marine Le Pen.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

11% for mélenchon has to be disappointing really

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

meanwhile the front national votes are just terrifying

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

What's really terrifying is how the other candidates will have to woo their electorate. Even Royal was after them this evening.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

If you add up Sarko+FN+some proportion of Bayrou it's easy to get to 50% - that's what the right have to aim for. However, it seems that around 20% of Le Pen voters say they'll vote PS and a sizeable chunk of protest voters will abstain. I heard on the news that Sarkozy has asked for three TV debates over the next two weeks - he obviously knows he has to do *something* to shake things up.

You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

The official LaRouche candidate failed to seize the moment, alas.

You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

Cheminade is a wacko

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

Le Pen won't say who to vote for in the runoff but she has said she wants Hollande to in. She intends for the FN to become the opposition to the 'ultraliberal, laxist, libertarian' Socialists

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

that 1.5% gap seems like it probably 'matters' a lot in terms of narrative

iatee, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

Un sondage Logica Business Consulting-France Télévisions-Radio France-Le Monde-Le Point, réalisé à 20 heures, dimanche 22 avril, sur un échantillon de 1 090 personnes représentatives de la population française, qui place François Hollande en tête avec 54 % des voix, permet d'avoir une idée de la réponse.

Les électeurs de Marine Le Pen voteraient à 60 % pour Nicolas Sarkozy, 18 % pour François Hollande et 22 % s'abstiendraient, selon cette étude. Ces proportions sont similaires au report de voix de 2007, selon un sondage réalisé le 6 mai 2007 par Ipsos.
Mais ce taux de report des électeurs lepénistes vers Sarkozy a connu un bond au cours des derniers jours, si on le compare au sondage Ipsos des 18-19 avril : 45 % des électeurs FN du premier tour disaient vouloir voter Sarkozy au second, 43 % prévoyant de s'abstenir.
Les électeurs de François Bayrou se répartiraient en trois tiers, un tiers pour François Hollande (33 %), un tiers pour Nicolas Sarkozy (32 %) et un tiers qui s'abstiendrait (35 %). En 2007, ces reports étaient plus importants pour Nicolas Sarkozy avec 40 %, selon Ipsos.
86 % des électeurs de Jean-Luc Mélenchon voteraient pour François Hollande et 11 % s'abstiendraient, 1 % voterait pour Nicolas Sarkozy. Jean-Luc Mélenchon a clairement demandé à ses électeurs de "se mobiliser pour battre Nicolas Sarkozy".

iatee, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

Curiouser and curiouser

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 23 April 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

uggh at fn results. and ugh at ump going full out to get all the fn voters to vote sarkozy in the 2nd round. man seriously sarko really has a lot to answer for, because fn being all the way up top with 20% of voters is his work.

Jibe, Monday, 23 April 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link


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