_Avatar_, directed by James Cameron

otm. and I'll bet the house with the black light posters has a working power loader. AND flying stingray dragon things. textbook house can sit around waiting for the asteroid to crash into earth.

imo blacklight posters looked better in batman forever when batman fought the glowstick gang

ice cr?m otm; you guys are not feeling the ~power of cinema~

Why did the scientists go along with it at all when it was clearly obvious from the first scene with Giovani Ribisi that the organisation they were working for could care less what happened to the natives?

A sizable number of academics will take funding from Satan himself because it's, well, funding.

besides every movie scientist worth a damn knows that you get your standoff at the end to show how secretly conflicted they really were...meantime, let's drive these cool blue people and do kickass science stuff!

mall hippie black light posters

^What does this mean??

ps yes power loaders are cool but there was a reason why the Marines in Aliens used them for loading stuff rather than combat. Ha don't know why these mecha things bug me so much though, I guess as far as issues with the film go its pretty lowdown on the list. Just a nerd I guess.

To be fair seeing it in 3D at the IMAX was pretty great whatever other faults I felt there were with the movie. But overall I don't see what it has over the Star Wars prequels.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/3072818819_77ac0a0dbd.jpg

I could not understand why, if they wanted the stupid resource so bad, they didn't just nuke the fucking tree in the first couple of minutes rather than bothering with the whole rigmarole of growing a massively expensive pseudo-Navii to infiltrate the tribe (that incidentally was demonstrated to be a completely pointless exercise as the Navii could tell straightaway that the avatar wasn't really one of them).

the anthropologists and missionaries all come first, no? my impression was that the scientists were doing research and eventually reported the energy shit back to the main corporation, who then sent troops. the main character was on a ship with a bunch of new troops, yes? the build-up was happening as the story began. they used the avatars to get close to the Navi, and probably to be safer from the crazy ass jungle creatures, since they were like giants and stuff. i had the impression that the Navi knew what they were up to from whatever Sigourney's character did to cause her falling out with the tribe.

the whole idea that they had the technology to create the avatars, but were still using mechas with machine guns on them was pretty dumb, but whatever. I am guilty of making loads of excuses and rationalizations to justify enjoying a big sci-fi/fantasy spectacle every few years.

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My impression was that the military were perfectly well aware of where the unobotanium or whatever fuck was located right from the beginning. I didn't think Sigourney Weaver was interested in that aspect of the planet at all - it was quite separate to the organic internet garbage. The military's main interest in a Navii infiltrator from what I gleaned from the endless montages was to find out the structure of the tree itself because they couldn't scan it from orbit or something. Which if correct doesn't make any sense if they could just obliterate the whole thing at any point. To be honest, the film is already sliding out of my mind less than 24 hours later so I could have misunderstood all of this.

Thing is I am perfectly willing to overlook the conceits of science fiction and fantasy movies/literature, if they can deliver elsewhere, but when an SF film has an incredibly paper thin plot, half-arsed characerisation, formulaic dialogue etc it makes you less willing to swallow all the plot holes.

My impression was that the military were perfectly well aware of where the unobotanium or whatever fuck was located right from the beginning.

yep. lang said that the unobtanium trade was what paid for the weave's science.

were still using mechas with machine guns on them

mechas with machine guns AND BACK-UP KNIVES in case something happened to the machine gun.

hooray we disabled the robot's machine gun!

OH SHIT IT HAS A KNIFE

this movie was so goddamn boring btw, i thought the visuals would be worth it but they weren't

Glimpses of blue nipples made me ignore a lot of the plot holes.

hahah

lol my friends email:

"Saw avatar in IMAX 3d last night high on pot brownies. Was literally
most overwhelming experience of my life. Had about five panic attacks."

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

i think the thing that bothered me most was the name - "unobotanium". seriously.

Very stupid. But as explained up thread, "Unobtainium" was a jokey working title for the substance that ended up sticking :(

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i actually liked the name unobtainium

Unobtanium has a long, long sci-fi history, as stupid as the name may be.

this was amazing and stupid

Unobtanium has a long, long sci-fi history, as stupid as the name may be.

are you serious?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium

cameron guilty of utilizing ancient sci-fi tropes shockah

he didn't even bother coming up with a new name! it'd be like calling a dude in your mystery movie "macguffin"

i kinda wishe'd done that. also should have named the protagonist gyro goodman

hey i guessed right! wayne barlow did do "creature design" on this.

roger dean needs his credit tho

xp lol

what the fuck is going on with this movie. i went to go see buy a ticket yesterday and there was a lineup zigzagging through the entire theater, through the adjacent tim horton's, and out the door into the freezing cold then around the corner. hasn't it been out for a month already?

oh and james horner is still horrible

and i thought this movie would be the go-to punchline to jokes about box office failures for the next few years.

wonder if cameron found a wish-granting mermaid on one of his deep sea dives

he was probably blue and eight feet long

I mean she

O_O

i see you

he didn't even bother coming up with a new name! it'd be like calling a dude in your mystery movie "macguffin"

― chartres (goole), Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest

lol word for word my brother said that when we came out of the theater

A PDF of the Avatar script (I think official?):

http://www.foxscreenings.com/media/pdf/JamesCameronAVATAR.pdf

i'm starting to feel really bad for the avatar last airbender people that they didn't get their movie out first, those guys are fucked now

they're just calling it "the last airbender" now. anyway it's being directed by m. night shyamalan so it was fucked to begin with.

oh well good/bad for them.

Who the fuck let Shyamalalalananan direct another film?!

The twist ending will be that it really IS a remake of Avatar.

^^^^^ this. How much longer can he ride The Sixth Sense to make shitty film after shitty film? I'm assuming thats the only one of his movies that did enough box office bank to keep allowing this to happen.

i actually liked the name unobtainium

― fella, cutie (s1ocki), Monday, 11 January 2010 01:53 (13 hours ago)

yeah ditto, it felt a bit Futurama tho

not to turn this into a Shyamalan thread, but Signs made a ton of money too and as directors go he's still probably one of the more consistently profitable ones out there, regardless of how divisive he is

I forgot about Signs, but I was under the impression that his last couple had really tanked.

nah happening was a minor hit US-wise and did well internationally, lady in the water is his only real stink bomb (with The Village actually doing pretty good for a movie with no stars about scared quakers in the woods or wtfever, really)