TURN THIS MUTHA OUT! It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Results Thread

Autobahn wasn't in the original poll. Hmmmm.

Ah, Tusk is by Fleetwood Mac? I do know the name, I've noticed ILX seems to love them a lot, but I've never found out why. I don't think I've ever heard any music by them.

nah i stuck them down below all my pet favorites xxp

2/3rds boring bastard over here

We'll get you educated yet. xxp

Fleetwood Mac: really good. That's my thoughts on the matter.

nothing wrong with those records btw, but it just seems to go against the spirit of an alternate 70s poll if it's chockfull of ilm canon anyway.

^^^agreed, but such was the downright challopsy and terrible nature of the first poll that it's being countered like this

Well I just voted for the ones I like

seriously, what was everyone smoking that first go around

the idea that someone would prefer peter green-era fleetwood mac still baffles me

79. The Beatles - Let It Be

exhibit A

does tusk get much praise outside of ILM? it's still kind of an 'alternative' choice, just if you hang out around these parts too long it doesn't really feel that way

I'm thinking if one of these polls is done for the 90s as was suggested previously it might be more interesting to eliminate not only the albums from the first go-around but the artists too. This poll's still got plenty of Neil Young, Bowie, etc since fans of those dudes (myself included! oops) will just vote for their other albums that didn't make it the first time, which kind of waters down the alternative concept of it.

Tusk gets plenty of praise elsewhere.

I think it's been rehabilitated a lot, but we have a pretty skewed idea of mainstream on ILM

Once an artist has made a certain number of arguably great records, even their lesser albums become somehow more interesting. Plus the '70s was kind of the ur-decade for rock careerists.

xxp

Oh man, an alternative poll for the 90's would see me suggest-banned before the top 20 ;-)

Currently listening to Damn The Torpedoes, which I voted for, and which I'm kinda hoping places. It won't, but it's one of the best American albums of the 70's IMO

Tusk was considered 'the biggest failure ever' for years & years

The number 1 will probably be some hoary old rock or post-punk album, can't think of any funk/soul/jazz record that would be popular enough among ILXors to top the list.

― Tuomas, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:12

Dude, it's a 1970s poll. It's all hoary and old!

mega xpost

Whereas in reality it was only a small failure </challops>

I would have no problem with a poll where the artists are eliminated too. If that had been the case here, only oen album in my ballot would have been disqualified.

(Tie) 24. Faust - IV (1974) [151 points, 17 votes]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2d78x13.jpg

Picked it up about a month ago and it just kills me. Was just listening to it this morning - it's still in that phase where every time I listen to it I realize it's even better than I thought the last time I listened to it.

― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, January 9, 2009 2:57 PM (11 months ago)

so many people who only own one Faust record own that one, it's total pop...

― Milton Parker, Friday, June 15, 2007 3:38 PM (2 years ago)

(oops, that's actually supposed to be 1973... I forgot to change it before I posted. like it's really a big deal...)

Should have been top 5. Bah.

Aja, Autobahn and Lust For Life didn't make the top 200 of the previous poll, so it'll be a surprise to me if they make the top 25. I just couldn't believe there isn't support for Lust For Life, so I included it.

massive x-post, i didn't see electric warrior and faust iv, i swear!

no order:
hejira
curtis
meddle
fear of music
before and after science
the modern dance
another music in a different kitchen
germfree adolescents
la woman
shiny beast
stranded
rock bottom
rocket to russia
electric warrior
are we not man, we are devo
bridges
master of reality
aja
tusk
faust iv
raincoats
band of gypsys
the köln concert
autobahn
natty dread

xxpost

Should have been higher for sure. Jennifer and Lauft... are kinda like religious experiences. Slightly silly religious experiences. But then these guys saw that the fuckaround could be more beautiful than the solemn statement, and followed that muse to this zenith

All sorts of off-topic, but why not:

the idea that someone would prefer peter green-era fleetwood mac still baffles me

I really, really hate Stevie Nicks. I like Buckingham the guitarist but not Buckingham the singer. I don't like cocaine.

Did you actually vote in this, Louis?

huh?

His ballot came in the last day, I think.

3/4 of the way through, and six from my ballot have made it.

master of reality

This was #61.

10 of mine so far, but 5 of those were in the bottom 20.

I was gonna ask what la woman is, but I realized it's L.A. Woman, heh. What's Bridges?

voted for Faust Tapes instead, because of a fond memory of me ruining a Christmas dinner when I was 15 with it:
Mum 'play us one of your records'
Me 'OK'

Sorry Louis - I thought I remembered someone being sniffy about voting and thought it was you

damn... Stormcock isn't going to make it is it? Should have voted.

lol @ that story

I'm waiting to see 101-120, that's all I'll say IK

13 of mine in so far. I forget if Band On The Run made it, but that'd be 14.

sonofstan's story FTW

sonofstan - I once ruined a parents' dinner party with Isn't Anything

23. Ramones - Rocket to Russia (1977) [152 points, 13 votes]

http://i45.tinypic.com/2i1352v.jpg

In the past I've always upped Rocket To Russia on the ground that it uses the greatest variety of their classic tricks while slowing down the least (with "Here Today Gone Tomorrow" and "I Don't Care" being the only real duds). And I think I still do. But somehow it seems like a combination tape of the best stuff from Leave Home and Road To Ruin would actually contain all of my favorite Ramones songs. Funny how that works.

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, February 9, 2007 6:49 PM (2 years ago)

Pinefox sez : "Too little interest in songwriting".

To me this is so far wide of the mark that it completely misses what early-Ramones are all about. The analogies with Brill building and early 60's girlpop songcraft has been trotted out so often wrt The Ramones that it's tempting to dismiss it out-of-hand. There is some truth in it though - I can hear the Shangri-La's, say, in I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend or Babysitter. That's not to say that this automatically makes the Ramones good, of course.

But they're better than good - they're masters. Their best songs are great because they are lean and simple - there's nothing that shouldn't be there. Couple this with a simple melodic hook(nothing fancy - 4 chords max. and another 2 for the middle 8) and a propulsive beat, and you have something irresistable. Add some elements of The Ramones 'own world' imagery (pick from : NY street images, retards, 'nam casualties, glue, girls)and you have genius.

Take "Glad to see you Go" from Leave Home - straight into a Beach Boys/Eddie Cochrane morphed melody and just listen to the way that the song shifts gear slightly on lines 3 and 4 of the verse as Tommy closes the high-hat a touch under the chords and melody. The shift into the chorus is sublime and the sheer rush as it comes back to the last verse from the middle 8 ("I need somebody good, I need a miracle") is like a ride in the space shuttle - on the outside.

Take "Rockaway Beach" - another point on the curve linking "Summer in the City", " Dancing in the Street" and "Baby on more Time". Again - great chorus, great lyrics ("Chewin out a rhythm on my bubblegum") and a sense of PLACE. In less than 3 minutes you feel exactly what it's like to be a teenager in baking hot NY - and you feel it every single time you hear it. That's great songwriting, Pinefox.

Rockaway, Glad..., Listen to My Heart, 53rd and 3rd, You Should Never Have Opened That Door are equals of "Please, Please Me", "California Girls", "My Generation" ..... the list goes on....if you can look past the "punk" thing which is really a red herring as far as The Ramones are concerned.

I guess it all depends on what you look for in a song - they're not Burt or Jimmy Webb, but they tell a story, crank up the adrenaline, and make their own world for 3 mins for EVERY SINGLE TRACK on the first 4 albums. That's classic.

― Dr. C, Sunday, July 15, 2001 8:00 PM (8 years ago)

^ this isn't specifically related to the album in question, but it's long been one of my favorite things ever written on ILM.

Shit, I haven't heard Faust - just realised that my story might be really lame

(Tuomas: Sorry! I forgot Mongo Santamaria was on the noms list.)

That's okay, Afro-Indio is hardly a proper "Afro-Cuban" album anyway, more like a fusion of that and jazz-funk and disco.

That Dr. C post should be in the liner notes of those Ramones albums.

^^^truth.