is Donovan really this much of a tw*t?

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donovan is only the second best music performer named 'donovan' in history

and the best, which is jason donovan of course, was 5000% times better

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!, Monday, 10 October 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Jason who????

hurdygurdyman, Monday, 10 October 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"Beatles were hurdy gurdy men, they came singing songs of lo-o-ove/I am a hurdy gurdy man, I come singing songs of lo-o-ove."

Oh my God, that is hilarious.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Hurdy Gurdy, I have a question about some Donovan trivia. Is it true he helped Paul McCartney with the lyrics to Rocky Raccoon?

---- Good question but the answer is no. One thing I can tell you is that Paul wrote Mother Natures Son for Donovan while in India.

-- hurdy gurdy man (hurdygurdyma...) (webmail), September 22nd, 2005 7:28 PM.

I thought Donovan helped out with 'Yellow Submarine'?

Hmmm...I bet Macca wrote 'Mother Nature's Son' for himself. It was inspired by on a lecture by the Maharishi, as was a John Lennon song 'Child of Nature' (he later scrapped the lyrics and turned it into 'Jealous Guy').

Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

In 1968 Paul admitted that Mother Natures son was a tribute to Donovan. The lyrics kind of tell the tale. Donovan wrote "Sky of Blue and Sea of green in our Yellow Submarine." Donovan also co wrote the Dehra Dhun (spelling) A song Harrison wrote while in India. He never released it but I have a couple versions of it on bootlegs. You can see George playing it with Paul and Ringo on the Beatles Anthology series. George is rumored to have a hand in Donovan's song Peregrine from the Hurdy Gurdy man album. They loved eachothers work.

hurdygurdyman, Monday, 10 October 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

http://harpmagazine.com/articles/detail.cfm?article_id=3489

Sep/Oct 2005
Reviews
Reissues
Donovan

Try for the Sun: The Journey of Donovan

Epic/Legacy
By Richard C. Walls
Let’s give Donovan his due. Often dismissed for not being Dylan, for being, at times, too airy-fairy and too embarrassing a relic of the hippie era, the fact remains that when he was good he managed to be both distinct and representational, one of those unique performers who, for better or worse, had ingested and then reflected a portion of the temper of the times. His two best records, Sunshine Superman (’66) and Mellow Yellow (’67) are period pieces, but then so is Sgt. Pepper’s, and their pop/rock/folk fusion still sounds like nothing done before or since. More often than not Donovan constructed a vibe that sounded like a new twist on the emerging language of the youth culture. And he was, it seemed, a little ahead of the Zeitgeist curve. “The Trip” is genuinely trippy before that became a wretched cliché and “Sunny South Kensington” is cobbled from so many then-contempo influences, from the Beatles to garage rock, that it sounds sui generis. And if Donovan was never quite as deep as he seems to think he was (and that alone would make him a good spokesman for the era), he could still be a lot of fun.

That said, this box set does much more than portray Donovan as a late-’60s avatar, comprising three discs and a bonus DVD, 60 tracks and 12 previously unreleased songs, with a noncritical but informative liner essay by Anthony DeCurtis (Who’d have thought that Donovan’s breathy close-to-the-mic style was an idea he got from listening to Buddy Holly?). And given the hit-and-miss quality of the post-Mellow stuff, the box is ultimately for the dedicated fan. For every song that reminds one what a clever boy he could be (e.g., “Epistle to Dippy”, “Hurdy Gurdy Man”), there’s a handful where the preciousness is layered on with coyly mannered abandon and the results are just too bloody twee. When the poet-troubadour moves past the point where he engaged us by making spontaneous history, he can become a taste you may no longer be inclined to acquire.

hurdygurdyman, Monday, 10 October 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/d/donovan-tryforthesun.shtml

DONOVAN
Try For the Sun: The Journey of Donovan
(RCA/Legacy)
Rating: 8
US release date: 13 September 2005
UK release date: 12 September 2005
by Maura McAndrew



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A decade before Bruce Springsteen held the title of "the new Dylan", a British teenager named Donovan Leitch lay claim to it, even befriending the man himself. Donovan rose to fame strumming earnest folk songs and psychedelic rockers in the late 1960s, recording his first album when he was in his teens and gaining international stardom by age 20. Inspired by Woody Guthrie and Buddy Holly as well as his peers, Donovan collaborated with and befriended some of the great musicians of his time, such as The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, The Mamas and the Papas, The Animals, Jeff Beck, Ron Wood, and members of Led Zeppelin. After a short, successful career, this particular "new Dylan" seemed content to fade into the background, withdrawing from the spotlight in the 1970s and releasing few albums after that. As a result, Donovan's rightful place among the great folk-rockers of the '60s and '70s has been somewhat overlooked.

I never knew much about Donovan aside from the oh-so-'60s party tune "Mellow Yellow", and I had always thought of him as just some silly hippie. I would smirk at my mother's copy of Donovan's Greatest Hits and its close-up shot of the young Donovan with his wild hair, large honest eyes, and boyish grin. Though Donovan was silly, it was a good silly, and his songs were not only catchy; they really said something about the spirit of a certain era of rock 'n roll. Epic/Legacy's new three-disc box set (including a live DVD and previously unreleased recent material) will perhaps put Donovan back on the minds of all the Dylan and Beatles-worshippers who have neglected his influence.

The box set, though a big project to tackle for any but the most obsessed Donovan fans, is extremely well put together. The first disc is the one that will attract casual fans: it contains the early Dylan-esque folk tracks "Catch the Wind" and "Josie", as well as the fantastic über-hit "Sunshine Superman", which I instantly recognized from years of oldies radio and my parents' records. This song is, to me, as emblematic of the 1960s as any of The Beatles' hits. Also heard here are "Season of the Witch" and the strangely endearing "Mellow Yellow". One highlight of this box set is its killer liner notes, written with obsessive glee by Rolling Stone writer Anthony DeCurtis. He lets the fans in on Donovan's days partying in swinging '60s London, as well as little known collaborations (like Paul McCartney's barely audible cameo on "Mellow Yellow").

What is startling about Donovan, both in the story of his life and in his music, is how honest everything is. There is no mystery about him, which is most likely why he was never a cult figure like Dylan. He is not evasive, not depressed, and his lyrics are not cryptic. When he writes a song about a woman, he calls it "Jennifer Juniper", "Legend of a Girl Child Linda" or "Celia of the Seals". He doesn't change names, nor does he hide behind metaphors. Song One on the second disc, the hopeful "Epistle to Dippy", was written for Donovan's childhood friend, nicknamed "Dippy". When Dippy heard the song, he and Donovan got back in touch with one another. This is Donovan through and through: earnest and well intentioned. Throughout Disc Two this is displayed in hits such as "Hurdy Gurdy Man", and the flute-laden "Lalena".

Disc Three showcases more of Donovan's confessional folk from the early 1970s, most of which draws on the Celtic influences of his Scottish upbringing. A trio of more recent tracks, 1994's "Please Don't Bend", 2003's "Love Floats" and 2004's "Happiness Runs" show him growing with the times, but not neglecting his classic style. Especially "Happiness Runs", an updated version of his 1969 song, which sounds like something any modern folk hero would die to create.

These three discs are not only packed with the hits of Donovan's heyday, but are also full of surprises. His delicate Celtic timbre, combined with his honest lyrics and sunny melodies, make him much more than a silly hippie or a 1960s throwback. He is an important musician with a real place in rock history. Don't let the earnest smile fool you; with Donovan, happiness is just as beautiful as sadness.

— 14 September 2005

hurdygurdyman, Monday, 10 October 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"Beatles were hurdy gurdy men, they came singing songs of lo-o-ove/I am a hurdy gurdy man, I come singing songs of lo-o-ove."
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Anyone ever see the movie L.I.E., Long Island Express where Donovan's voice in hurdy gurdy man is used as the theme for a exmarine pedophile cruising for teenboys while sniffing fabric from from the crotch of some jeans. singin' songs of love - oh yeah....

earth sign man, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure Donovan has no control over what scene his music is being used in. I can assure you that Donovan is not a pedophile and he does not go after teenage girls like you mentioned or heard. I happen to know him and he would be very disturbed if I told him this. Don't believe everything you read or hear. He is a great peaceful soul.

hurdygurdyman, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you in fact Donovan?

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope, Don is really busy right now promoting his book, Boxed set and Beat Cafe album. He is doing book signings in the UK. I help out with Donovan's archive, recently helped with the Sony Boxed set just released in the US and the EMI re-released cd's with bonus tracks.

hurdygurdyman, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Mr. Hurdygurdyman. Now I solved who you are. I love Donovan music. But you know him you say? If you put all time you spend with Donovan in a row do you have an hour? All in line for autographs? He is not peaceful. Not nice lots of times. No more bullshit please.

asha, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh really, you solved who I am, really how? How did my name end up on the back of his recent releases, not from standing in line for autographs, sorry man. You seem very bitter, why? So no need to get rude. Or obviously not very peaceful.

hurdygurdyman, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Donovan is brilliant brilliant brilliant!!!

Anyone who hastily dismisses his catalogue because of impressions or radio hits is potentially missing out. Hurdy Gurdy Man, Flower to a Garden, Wear Your Love Like Heaven, Open Road, all stone cold classics--among others.

Jonathan DD, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Just trying to keep fans informed, guess my job is done here if people do not want to hear any good news about Donovan. Saw some negative posts and just added my piece.

cheers

hurdygurdyman, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

sure sounds like a lousy father, but then again, most hippies make shitty parents

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:TugK9lcdjTMJ:www.aladdin -theater.com/show_page.aspx%3Feventid%3D652+Donovan+boxed+se t,+try+for+the+sun,+the+journey+of+donovan&hl=en


Friday, November 25, 2005

Donovan

Ticket Price: $35.00 adv / $38.00 dos
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Donovan ROCKING IN THE PERFUMED GARDEN OF DONOVAN

Donovan had everything going for him in the '60s. His jawdropping 1965 debut on London's cutting-edge TV series Ready Steady Go!-- strumming his Dylan-ish folk-rocking protest songs--got this denim-clad, shaggy-haired teenager plenty of early notice. A meteoric rise to stardom would follow in 1966, as Donovan's infectiously rocking, psychedelic epics "Sunshine Superman" and "Mellow Yellow" bolted into the top ten of record charts all around the world.

For the rest of the decade, it was into the mystic for the Glasgow, Scotland-born troubadour. An entire generation of Summer Of Love kids sat at the feet of this robed prince to soak up wondrous ballads, ("Atlantis," "Wear Your Love Like Heaven") love songs, ("Jennifer Juniper," "Lalena") and mind-bending chants ("There Is A Mountain," "Goo Goo Barabajagal")--all from the perfumed garden of Donovan.

Meditating at the ashram of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi along with the Beatles, Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithfull and Beach Boy Mike Love, Donovan and his beatific smile were never out of the newspapers for long. Working on the Beatles'
"Yellow Submarine" in exchange for Paul McCartney's contributions to "Mellow Yellow" had to be a "wish I was there" moment for legions of young rock fans.

Then, in 1970, Donovan just walked away from a career that had seen him scale the loftiest pinnacles of the music world. "Six years of fame was enough," he told the press at the time. "You couldn't get any more famous, any more successful. I had done everything."

But now, with the release of the Sony/BMG Legacy Donovan box set, TRY FOR THE SUN: THE JOURNEY OF DONOVAN, he's back with a steamer trunk loaded with everything you ever wanted to hear by this generational icon. From rare early singles on the Hickory label plus all his Top Ten classics for Epic produced by hitmaker Mickie Most (Animals, Herman's Hermits), to obscure album tracks and unreleased gems--as well as amazing recent studio excursions--this is the 3-compact disc/1 DVD/60-track package Donovan fans have been clamoring for.

Relevance to today's indie-rock market? Donovan has it in spades. Current forays by budding superstar Beck--not to mention even more recent material from underground West Coast folk guru Devendra Banhart--will tell you all you need to know: Donovan easily straddles the decades as a musical titan. With the release of TRY FOR THE SUN: THE JOURNEY OF DONOVAN, it's all come back into focus. Donovan's time has come again.

TESTIMONIALS

"Donovan's importance is unquestionable."
- James Mercer, The Shins

"This re-release of some of his gems is really welcome."
- Jimmy Page

"The sound of his voice and guitar was an integral part of the soundtrack of the sixties."
- Country Joe McDonald

"Donovan was—Bob Dylan aside—the greatest folk troubadour to come out of the 1960s."
- Stephen King

"As much as any seminal artist, he represents more than just the music of that time…he represents the spirit of our younger selves, enchanted with pop music and its melodies, lyrics and stories."
- Mary Chapin Carpenter

"…a terribly ace songwriter...a top man in my book, and somebody I wish I would run into in a park on a warm Sunday."
- Billy Corgan

"There's a sense of peace in Donovan's voice which is unparalleled in rock. His music makes one want to get inside of it and relax into bliss. How lucky we are to have the chance to drink in his mystic vibrations."
- Rick Rubin


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"You don't have to be stoned to grow a friend."

Donovan- 1969

hurdygurdyman, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
How I showed Bob Dylan, Marc Bolan and Andy Warhol how to do it
(Daily Telegraph 02/10/2005)

James Walton reviews The Hurdy Gurdy Man by Donovan Leitch.

Perhaps, like me, you've always thought of Donovan as a bloke who wrote a few nice songs in the 1960s. Well, it turns out we were wrong. According to his autobiography, he was one of the most significant people ever to strum a guitar. As he puts it in what proves an unusually modest comparison between himself and Bob Dylan: "His lyrics are without equal in popular music, but I think that musically I am the more creative and influential."

By his reckoning, that influence has certainly been widespread. In The Hurdy Gurdy Man, Donovan claims - quite straightforwardly and often repeatedly - to have invented folk-rock, Celtic rock, British psychedelia, New Age music, world music, flower power and the modern rock concert. "I am proud to have been an influence on acts like Van Morrison and Led Zeppelin," runs a typical sentence - and in the next paragraph he explains how he taught Marc Bolan everything.

At times, the debts owed to him might appear slight, but Donovan spots them anyway: "Soon Andy Warhol would create a record cover for the Velvet Underground which depicted a banana. It would seem that Andy had not missed the phrase 'electrical banana' in Mellow Yellow, my number-one song."

The early parts of the book give only a few indications of the rampant and disfiguring egotism to come, with Donovan unable to resist mentioning his key schoolboy achievements. ("In time I rose to the position of House Captain.") Otherwise, his childhood in Glasgow and his youth in Hatfield and St Ives are described with an appealing sense of place and period. There's even a pretty good chapter that opens with the promising words, "Let me tell you about the St Albans scene."

The trouble starts when the young Donovan turns seriously to music. "As I listen to my earliest recordings," writes the older one, "I am surprised to hear I was a virtuoso of all the folk-blues guitar styles by the time I reached 17." (His surprise, you feel, probably wasn't overwhelming.) For a while, there's still enough half-decent material to hold out the hope that, if he'd just stop boasting, the book might yet be redeemable. Once his career takes off, though, boasting is more or less all we get.

During an early TV appearance, he unblushingly notes, the producer "saw in me a new kind of poet-minstrel". Shortly afterwards, in a predictable lurch into the third-person, "this denim-clad beatnik from Scotland with a limp and an attitude was becoming a shaman". No wonder that a few chapters later, he's "the hottest concert ticket in North America" - while in the studio "I had pulled off a folk-classical-blues-pop-jazz-poetical-ethnic jam of far-reaching influence in the years to come". (Given his endless bragging, maybe Donovan was a big influence on Snoop Doggy Dogg, too.)

Each new record or gig is accompanied by a glowing review - occasionally quoted from a journalist of the day, more often supplied by Donovan himself. At one point, he lists all the people who have ever covered his songs, up to and including James Last, the New Christie Minstrels and Jasper Carrott.

But as it transpires, our man didn't merely transform music. He also changed consciousness itself. By incorporating into the songs "a new way of seeing… I founded an Invisible School of Self-Awareness in the hearts and minds… of millions". The messianic complex that runs through the book reaches its climax when he bids the rain to stop during a concert in LA. (It does.) Sadly, his central statement of intent is undermined by an unfortunate misprint: "My mission was to prevent [sic] a cure for society's illness by introducing the Bohemian Manifesto into popular music."

Of course, a book like this (if there's ever been one before) could only have been produced by a man with no sense of humour. Admittedly, it does contain plenty of comedy - but all of it is inadvertent. Donovan, for example, keeps praising his own "meaningful and poetic lyrics", and then unwisely quoting some. ("Get together work it out/ Simplicity is what it's about.")

He retains his bullish tone long after his career is in decline. ("The single Atlantis was particularly successful in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.") Above all, he talks constantly about the importance of self-awareness, while displaying absolutely none of it.

Which just leaves the mysterious question of why nobody saved him from himself before publication. There might even be a case to be made that Donovan hasn't had the credit he deserves. Yet surely somebody from his family or publishers could have pointed out the obvious fact that 300 pages of mad boasting isn't going to make people think you're great after all. Instead, it's far more likely to make them think you're a berk.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Hilarious, as is the book

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the book is a very good read for all of Donovan's big fans. Not the average fans. Could have used more details though.

hurdygurdyman, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Don't put artists up on pedestals, they are ordinary people not gods. OK Donovan comes across as a bumptious twat sometimes, Dylan as a sneering clown, Lennon as a nasty piece of work ........ and so it goes on. Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf were pretty wild when they were at their prime too.
You just have to consider their work, and either it appeals to you as an individual or it doesn't. Personally I think that Donovan's best work is of real value, I find his lyrics as close to real poetry as anyone in the realm of rock/pop has ever come and I love his voice. A fair guitar player too in my book.
This opinion does not disqualify me from similar feelings for loads of other artists nor does it blind me to the fact that Donovan's canon does inclue some lesser works. I don't think there is an artist born who has been consistently brilliant. I was just happy that Don came back with two pretty good albums.

Piglet, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 08:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Seems like the "Burrows" thing was down to the doubtless thrusting Thatcherkid STimes writer TOO BUSY to check the spelling of authors' names.

Either that or Donovan possesses the autobiography of top sixties/seventies session singer Tony Burrows (and anyway, isn't it "Burrowes"?).

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 08:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Donovan plays him the saccharine To Sing for You, with which Dylan appears visibly unimpressed. After a pause, Dylan plays his formidable It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue and viewers experience the deep embarrassment of watching a lesser talent crushed.

Ah, received knowledge. It got so accepted that this was what happened. Funnily enough, I watched "DLB" not that long ago, and was surprised to hear Donovan actually request Bob to sing "Baby Blue". The only problem was, this fairly intimate scene got broadcast to millions, and earned an undertone that wasn't there at the time.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Since when did they cut and paste Feargal Sharkey into LANDMARK (or at least the Bed Shed) DYLAN FILM?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

He's right. Anyone who says the 60s were great is right.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

You were there were you?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

fake Geir?

Thomas, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

You were there were you?

I don't need to have been there to acknowledge that 60s music, along with 70s music and music from the first half of the 80s, was great.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

james brown was in the 60s. therefore great. i am right.

Thomas, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

he's right!

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

If only he left

nabisco, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought I heard something about this.. Was this the Mountain Goat band or something like that??

J0hn Darn1elle to thread.

-- A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:32 (2 years ago) Link

people who get me drunk enough often get to hear this story, which involves Donovan turning up at a show and having his manager demand that he sit in and throwing an absolute shitfit when we said "no"

J0hn D., Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

lololol

s1ocki, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Good thing it wasn't Don McLean.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

nb by "'get' to hear" I probably mean "are forced to endure"

J0hn D., Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I was feeling pretty groovy
when the radiator burst
So I ran across a meadow
a magical antelope saw me first
And then Jennifer Juniper
and then a floating merman from Atlantis

nabisco, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I loved my shirt so much I gave it to
a very friendly praying mantis

nabisco, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't worry, I'm done now

nabisco, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

and then a floating merman from Atlantis

dude you know I could seriously sell this line on that beat

J0hn D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh hey, that didn't work.

jim, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The gist was that Donovan is opening the "Invincible Donovan University". But this youtube link it better. He sings about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AldJWJk34ag

jim, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Listen to the cunts whooping.

jim, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link

lowl

am0n, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Funny how when hippy dudes talk (brag) about how at peace and in tune with the universe they are, the more insecure and fucked up they sound.

Bodrick III, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link


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