Kevin Costner's Russian's Rusty: Washington DC Metropolitan Area Thread II

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Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

nah, it was better. fewer cookie-cutter condos, more dive bars. there was an auto-body place in virginia square called motörhead.

ballston has always been ballston, though, as far as i know.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That last one again: 1942

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I remember seeing a Metro 25-year anniversary photo that showed the Pentagon City metro entrance in 1976 - with an open field behind it.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

AZ, bite your tongue. My dad grew up in Arlington and it was a proud slice of Americana.

I will totally go cider-apple picking!

library girl, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

is 'a proud slice of americana' a good thing? maybe back then...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Now it's a proud slice of Booz Allen Hamilton

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The identical rowhomes that have replaced whatever was on the other side of our street do freak me out, I will admit. I mean how do you even tell which one is your house? Paint the door a different color, I guess? They do that on Ode St.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

just imagine if you were living in the MIDDLE of the country

oh, nevermind, it'd probably be pretty much the same only flatter

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The thing is, it's like...ok yeah cookie cutter condos and chain establishments...I'm not really a big stickler against these things, I mean I lived on the UWS of Manhattan for a good six years, and I mean that basically serves as the world's largest conglomeration of Pottery Barn and Starbucks joints. But I mean there were still other things there, like tons of restaurants, groceries, bodegas, bars, signs of life after 9.30pm...I mean it's just bizarro the way this joint is set up. I mean if the Safeway is closed you're like fucked for life.

I think it would be better to live in the city proper. It is just kind of like...ok the best I can do to describe NOVA is like living in suburban Long Island or Jersey, except without ANY of the local flavor or tiny establishments because EVERYONE is a transient out of town 9-5 5 days a week. Whatever local color scene might've been here before the invasion of the Stepford Corporates, it's totally been demolished and replaced with a total void which is really disturbing in a lot of ways.

But hey whatever dood we booked yr suggestion wedding spot! Thx for tha tip!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

really? that's cool! when? (we are feb 18 do not overbid us!)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

No, no, we are...APRIL FOOLS DAY.

For serious!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

awesome! i got kind of drunk at the 3citron tasting last week!

i think you've booked JimmyMod, but in case not, this is the dude that's doing our photos for crazy cash:

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink


mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

roffles--I have yet to figure out invites myself. LOL PWNED.

I have to look into them this week. Can't you just do all that online these days anyway? That's what I'm hoping at least.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Save yourself some money, design the wedding invites yourself and peruse Target's selection of invites/paper. They *actually* have nice things. I swear. My wife and I did our own invites through the same method and got complimented by nearly all of our guests. It can be VERY expensive to have a company do 'em for you and the internet services look like dookie. That's how the Wedding Industrial Complex works.

ng-unit, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I was thinking of doing something like that actually, because virtually all of the invites I've liked have been $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (that's what you get reading wedding mags). And I'm like you can probably go to a party store or a stationary store and get blank things that look virtually the same and save money, except how do you go from there? Just on your own computer, print them up? Wouldn't they maybe get jacked in the printer? I keep imagining professionals have super printers that do not in any way resemble my $100 one.

I have a sad idea that will never come to fruition of going to a Chinese take out, getting 80 or 100 of their little rice boxes, and printing up "fortunes" that invite people to our wedding! But you cannot really put such a thing in the mail.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The "lucky numbers" for lotto are replaced with the address of the reception,'s totally unwieldly now that I'm thinking about this.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

no, that's great! it can't be that hard--we just got an invitation that contained a refrigerator magnet.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I had access to a laser printer at work, so I took care of it there. I'm not sure how they'd look on a regular ol' inkjet - like you said, there's a chance they'd get stuck (the instructions on the paper generally specify what you should do). And a lot of the stuff you'll find is on laminate or card stock, so that's something to be aware of.

Take-out invitations is an awesome idea - I've seen a similar thing (with metallic colored mini-take out boxes) in wedding stores. But that's super, super clever.

ng-unit, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Which wedding site did you decide on?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

There's a store in Georgetown on M St which is all stationery and paper and such, kinda pricey but.. well, some of it is super neat. I am thinking, it's not called the Paper Store is it? but it probably actually is. I have some design skillz, so if you know what you want your invitation to look like but could use a hand putting it together on the computer for print, let me know.

I just get the feeling that although both are smug and competitive, in NY I often feel that I'm struggling with other people, whereas in DC I feel like I'm struggling against everyone.

Yeah. I feel that way. I have a few very good friends in the area, but the few good friends are also friends with friends of friends, and the friends of friends tend to be fairly smug and competitive, which rubs off on the good friends, and suddenly I am lying to everyone about how I have all these ambitious plans when, in fact, I just want to be able to pay the bills and not stress. I think what bugs me the most is this vibe one can get from people, that if you're not so into the rat race and working 60 hours a week to chase the next big career goal, or maybe if whatever you've been chasing after doesn't fit their nice practical paradigm, there is something slightly pitiable about that. If only you could be as good as they are. And applying to law school.

Oh, and now I want a cider donut!

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

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dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

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TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Scott H, I did what you did--I moved to NY (astoria) right after college, stayed there a while, and then moved down here and got a good job. Now I'm ready to move back, not just because Clarendon is lame, but because my DC friends rarely hang out with me anymore because I live in Virginia and they all live within a block of each other in dupont. Unfortunately I'm a gov't contractor and can't make the kind of money I'm making here anywhere else. Those bastards. Not that I'm doing anything so spectacular with the money, it's just nice to have stuff and go on trips sometimes.

Hey, Patrick Fitzgerald is in my building and there are cameras outside. They got a great shot of my lunchbox.

allyson coco (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink


Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Cider donuts sound fantastic and I want one. I mean I want any kind of donut but I've never had a cider one and it sounds tasty.

And OK, there are plenty of "better than you" types here, whether they're corp. ladder-climbers or scenester scum, but are they really that hard to keep out of your life? I mean, there are just as many if not more (more, in my experience) nice, funny, cool people who aren't gonna pull that bullshit on you hanging around.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In my experience those numbers are not even remotely equal, and because of that it's "few and far between" and then you kind of don't bother very much and keep within your own tiny circle. Aren't you in school though? That would help, universities are all equally assholes/ok people. No matter where!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

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By the way, just to clear the air, the MITRE corporation is a fucking pox on humankind and 90% of their employees can go fuck themselves right in the eye with an awl pike. "FFRDC non-profit" my mom's balls.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

in NY I often feel that I'm struggling with other people, whereas in DC I feel like I'm struggling against everyone.

This is like the truest shit ever written, btw.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xpost - Nope, not in school. I mean, I've only been out since last year, but I have managed to meet a lot of decent folks around here in that period. I can imagine it'd be kinda rough if you just came here w/out an established social set, but isn't that really sorta the case for most cities?

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i found people unapproachable, and those nice/funny/cool people difficult to find and meet in DC. i know they are out there, but i think complaints about dc being full of better-than-you types are the tip of an iceberg of lack of social infrastructure through which to find nice/funny/cool young people. i'd rather hang out on a balcony with beers than stand in line to yell over loud music at a bar too, but it's sometimes not so fun without a warm circle of friends.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

tombot, why do you hate mitre so much?

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Because they're arrogant, completely out of touch with reality and incapable of producing an effective solution to anything. They're backstabbing, self-important geeks too mediocre to work anywhere that requires results. They just demand them from others.

Also, MITRE has been instrumental in fucking up this project at nearly every turn since I arrived. So it's just a little personal.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I can imagine it'd be kinda rough if you just came here w/out an established social set, but isn't that really sorta the case for most cities?

Well, if you mean established social set as like, one other person, then yeah that's sorta the case but if you mean like several friends, or even two? Then no, I don't believe that's true.

I mean, Tom and I kind of have an established social set, albeit a not-huge one. And like, no one ever wants to do anything. Because like half the time it kind of sucks going to places here and it'd be better to just hang out at home, or in Baltimore. So like I guess basically what carly said, yeah there are probably cool people here, I mean there definitely is but you're going to have problems by and large finding them because of the complete non-existance of the local scene and local custom and social infastructure.

I mean, you could probably go to J Paul's any night of the week and meet 80 trillion people but most of 'em suck.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Re: Zach's comment about social circles.

I actually have more friends from college and high school living and working in DC than anywhere else. What I find, however, is that the ones living in the outlying suburbs are more willing to hang out with me, but lack any sort of circle within in the city.

On the contrary, I have other friends from college that live in Columbia Heights and China Town, know a lot cool people in the city, but are ridiculously hard to meet up with and sometimes weirdly reluctant introduce me into their world. Normally, I would assume that these people don't actually like me, but I think it's more just a general disconnect between suburban DC-ers' and those in the city.

So, despite all pessimism about DC, I think living in the actual city is the only logical way people of our type (non-twatish) can find a good circle to run with. It makes me want to leave College Park with the quickness.

Scott H, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

20 decent bars to spend time at in the DC area:

Pharmacy Bar
The Reef
Marx Café
The Black Cat
Café Saint-Ex (on weekdays)
Bar Pilar
Georgetown Billiards
Bedrock Billiards
The Saloon (U St)
W Domku
Townhouse Tavern
The Raven
Galaxy Hut
The Brickskeller
The bar at Firefly
The Big Hunt

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

damn straight (well i can vouch for at least a few of those)

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i can vouch for some of em too. i'll add amsterdam falafel to the list of good things in dc. i know it was on the other thread, but i've been missing it lately. best falafel ever, second only perhaps to a few drunken versions enjoyed in berlin a few years ago.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It makes me want to leave College Park with the quickness

maybe petesmith can explain to you why college park is a wonderful place. i'd do it for him, but i don't really agree.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I was thinking about putting Amsterdam Falafel on the list, except that it's not really a bar. But I could get drunk on those fries, and it's got such a friendly staff.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the first time i went in i was short on cash. the owner saw me counting out my quarters and crumpled bills, and when i told him i was 50 cents short, he told me i could just pay next time. which i did.

my out of town friends who visited me still talk about the falafel place of dc.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

if you're ever in Philly, go to Maoz... the BEST. It's like Amsterdam Falafel but with better toppings, tastier bread, and crispier ballz.

allyson coco (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

also, the bar at 2 Amy's. I know it's the bar at a pizza place, but the beers & wines & drinks are great, as are the bartenders. Perfect for weekend afternoon drinking/eating.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ally OTM re the disproportion. I've got no serious problem with arrogant assholes and single-issue bores as long as they're just part of the mix; cf. New York, which wouldn't be the same without moronic young Masters of the Universe lurching around town.

Here, though, since they drive the market, they drive out most of the unorthodox niche joints--bookstores, strange bars, weird art things, whatever--that make a city interesting, and people who like to see something surprising every once in a while are kind of fucked.

It's funny, though, how interesting/okay people tend to cling together once they find each other, and have to look to each other for entertainment. It's like being in an expat community, but without the expensive long distance and dodgy water supply.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't understand why the Asylum is still even on there. The last many times I went there it was awful, their redesign is doing them absolutely no favors whatsoever. I mean yeah the beer is still cheap as shit and the wings are probably good but the crowd seems to have shifted a little more than I would've liked it to have. :(

Also it's just kind of ugly inside now!

I actually think I might kind of prefer Pharmacy now. Although I'm still pretty sure that my favorite spot on that strip isn't any of those places but Blue Fin instead.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Never mind the part about the water supply.

And to get with Brian's positive vibe: Amsterdam Falafel is excellent, and the all-you-can-stack toppings bar is the starving drunk's friend.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The people at Staccato were always super nice..

Re: social scene, I feel like it seemed easier just out of college, because everybody I knew was in the same boat, kinda poor and living in grungy apartments and run down group houses where they'd throw parties a lot and we'd go for $2 drinks at the Common Share. And now it's a few years out and people are movin' on up and working more hours and buying places and going to fancy lounges to hang out, except I went back to school and am poorer than I was before.

Re: security, I was so tempted to apply when I saw this job posting, Web Designer and Developer (Baghdad, Iraq)

"Yeah Mom, I landed this awesome gig building websites, uh, it's great experience, but.. it's kind of out of town.."

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wait, Asylum just recently became kind of ugly?

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Also, I like Rep Your Hood on WPGC.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

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