TURN THIS MUTHA OUT! It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Results Thread

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Anway, I'm beginning to fear that only two or three of my top 40 might actually appear in the top 100. I'm still certain Curtis Mayfield's debut will make it, but I'm not so sure about anything else. If you look at top 60-100, 33 of the 40 albums appear to be more or less in the rock mold (I'm a bit uncertain about a couple of those), which feels way too much fo me. In my opinion the 70s were most likely the best decade ever for "black" music (African-American, Afro-Cuban, Caribbean, Nigerian, Jamaican, Brazilian, etc), but I don't see this being reflected in the poll (yet). I guess I gotta just face the facts, that rock will always be the consensus choice.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link

my choices are so obvious I'm starting to feel bad for not voting for the more obscure and thus throwing the list into boring territory (though I have to admit that I've found it anything but so far).

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link

That is how I feel too, on both counts, but given how I wouldn't have predicted the results so far it is also entirely possible that actually most of my obvious picks will not turn up at all

still feeling bad for turning in a very rockist (or at least very white) list - sheer musical ignorance I'm afraid, will attempt to school myself at some point, let's hope the results of this poll will allow for some of that as well as a few more of my choices popping up

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link

my list is pretty white too, but out of racism more than anything

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha!

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link

(well played sir, was rather a stupid non-confession of mine there, but still, this thread has underlined the need to broaden my horizons)

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Really beginning to fear for my babies now and wishing I'd ordered my list - there's three records in particular I'd love to see here, but as we go higher the likelihood of that recedes.

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Sabotage or bust!

the not-fun one (Ioannis), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm shut out so far!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Geir vote?

Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

all of my fav '70s R&B albums are stuff that's either so canonical that it made the first list, or not canonical enough to make this list

some dude, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

my list contains precisely one black person although he is one of the funkiest bassists that has ever lived so probably counts for 3 or 4 (the great Barry Adamson, obviously)

i don't feel especially guilty for this. sure soul jazz and r&b deserve lots of placements here, and sure they'll get them. sometimes a dude has to go bat for art-rock, s'all. i've called it based on what are my favourite albums [/geir]

i wish there was an equal desire on the part of the soul/jazz fans to expand their horizons towards progressive rock! [/geir]

god see talking about this makes me sound like geir

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish there was an equal desire on the part of the soul/jazz fans to expand their horizons towards progressive rock

ahem, back when you were still in short trousers son...

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know, all this talk about 'black music' and 'white music', but what about the Asians, guys? Won't somebody think of the Asians?

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

and no, not last year.
xp

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah granted pfunkboy

i do need to hear more carnatic music etc. microtonal scales, drones, and other groovy things

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, I only have two Asian bands on my list - YMO and FTB. But still.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

60. Various Artists - No New York (1978) [101 points, 10 votes]

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I hate how "No New York" and "no wave" have become synonyms for "noisy."

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, July 30, 2004 3:11 PM (5 years ago)

I'm not sure what "lasting impact" *No New York* has had, since no NY bands since have really matched what the Contortions, DNA, Mars, and Teenage Jesus and the Jerks did on it (which isn't to say nobody's made music that *good* -- I mean, I just don't see how they've really influenced anybody in especially interesting ways, and when bands have *tried* to do what they did, they usually fall flat on their faces.)

― chuck, Thursday, June 5, 2003 1:02 PM (6 years ago)

When No New York hit unsuspecting record store shelves, the cache of Eno's involvement may have helped shift a few units, but I certainly don't believe it wasn't designed to suggest a bubbling well-spring of untapped profit-generators so much as take a snapshot of a truly unique, fleeting art movement.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, June 7, 2003 4:09 PM (6 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Never heard of that one.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess I'm a middle-of-the-road voter too, since both of my picks that have placed thus far are ultra-canonical, ie. Bruce and Stevie.

o. nate, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

sure soul jazz and r&b deserve lots of placements here, and sure they'll get them. sometimes a dude has to go bat for art-rock, s'all.

i feel u on this, but r&b and soul are no less artful and u should def make a quest to know the most prolific time of funky shit

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i will be chasing this stuff down. the 80's poll got me into prince!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

if u dig the mega-genius of prince, u should follow the advice of the usa president and listen to that 5-album run by noted-recording artist stevie wonder

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm still holding out hope that Lawrence of Newark made it. Oh, and Don Cherry's Brown Rice. That's fucking killer too. But I think that my ballot may have been functionally irrelevant…

Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Disappointed in the low placement of NNY. I think it was in my top 10 in the original poll. I hope Tusk takes this.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought NNY was definitely canon enough to make it top 30.

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I was kind of surprised how high NNY was -- highly admired, rarely loved. Again, how can anything ranked in the top 100 out of over 1,300 options be considered low, considering there's easily another 1,000 worthy candidates?

I picked up CCR's Green River used to reconsider, and realized I already had most of the tracks on the two comps. At least it was a 40th Anniv remaster (didn't have Cosmo's), and I always prefer to hear the songs in the sequence they intended. I do like their chooglin', it was probably just a mistake to listen to their entire catalog all at once. I don't know that I can stomach ABBA though, I'm still recovering from Mama Mia.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

tusk is 1980 tho?

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

19 oct 1979 according to wikipedia

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

'79.

Completely forgot to finish my voting ballot. Enjoying what I see and read so far!

willem, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Format:

Position, Album title, Artist, Year, Points, Votes.

Picture.

Blog/posts of people dissing the album
One post from someone who likes it
Tuomas post about having never heard of it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Comfort and familiarity in these troubled times.

America's Next Most Disabled Ballerina (WmC), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

59. The Specials - Specials (1979) [102 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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First album : the most classic of the classic, of all music.. seriously. "The Specials" was the most important and therapeutic record for me back in the day, when I used to feel like a social fuck-up.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, December 13, 2002 1:55 PM (7 years ago)

Their first album alone redeems them from any possible later crimes they may have committed.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, December 13, 2002 5:08 PM (7 years ago)

In high school a friend gave me a copy of "Lifes Rich Pageant" that he'd taped over a copy of this Specials album, so that right after the end of "Superman" you'd come in halfway through "Little Bitch," and I was completely captivated by this amazing half-song, which it was two years before I learned what it was and bought the record.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:39 PM (1 year ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Still prefer the first Beat album to this one i think, but both are classic

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't notice the Specials were on the nominations list I just assumed it was in the first time round. I would have voted it for if I'd have seen it, the first two albums are total classics.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I love that story from eephus.

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Seven of my 40 in so far, got no idea whether most of my others stand a chance of placing. My picks were certainly more varied in terms of genre than my '80s list was. For the last two or three years the '70s has been a constant source of unheard treasures for me really.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry they're so few today, guys. My internet keeps going out for an hour or more at a time.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

58. John Cale - Fear (1974) [104 points, 11 votes]

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I've listened to the Fear album at least 100 times in the past week. I can't believe I had gone this far without ever hearing Ship of Fools.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, July 31, 2006 8:08 PM (3 years ago)

John Cale's Fear, the piano in the title track seems startlingly real to me.

― nickn (nickn), Monday, October 2, 2006 5:23 PM (3 years ago)

(very little of any substance written on Fear in the archives, which is odd.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

plus ça change

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

You add it up, it brings you down.

Euler, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Polls are a man's best friend.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

you know it makes sense, don't even think about it

velko, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Glad it's here, but again, i voted for a different one (Vintage Violence)

sonofstan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

57. Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson (1971) [106 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

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Finally got Nilsson Schmilsson and it's pretty much wall-to-wall stuff that will get stuck in my head for whole days at a time. "Gotta Get Up" is so fucking classic it's not funny.

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, March 3, 2006 11:40 AM (3 years ago)

"Nilsson Schmilsson" isn't as good as the early albums, "Son of Schmilsson" isn't as good as "Nilsson Schmilsson". "A Little Schmilsson in the Night" I like. The other albums are hideously patchy and often just plain hideous until you get to "Knnillsson" which is good again.

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, June 7, 2005 9:56 AM (4 years ago)

nilsson schmilsson is both the commercial and critical high point, with, among other things, his mega-hit cover of the badfinger pop ballad "without you" and the hard-grooving "jump into the fire." the former was covered (again) by mariah carey; the latter is currently being covered by lcd soundsystem.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:33 AM (5 years ago)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

yay!

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I defs drove some roommates crazy by constantly playing Nilsson Scmilsson in 2003.

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Nilsson Schmilsson is one of those albums I'm pretty sure I would love but have never gotten around to hearing. Hmm.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I was glad to see this make the cut, tbh. It was hovering right outside of the top 100 for a long, long time.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Voted for two Nilsson albums and I don't think either will make the cut now.

Bing Crosby, are you listening? (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link


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