KLF - did they rock you?

I think 3AM Eternal came first though - the first version came out in 89, The Power was a hit in 1990.

I just remembered that in one of his books Julian Cope inspiringly uses "Bill Drummond" as an adjective, as in "David Balfe was Bill Drummonded to the tits". Made me laugh.

Here is the "Last Train to Trancentral" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqxtBggVsi0

Now would that be the "MU MU!"s there at 3:24?

That's what I was thinking, yeah. It's "woo-woo" up till then, then for the last chorus it's "MU MU!".

Has anyone got/heard "Edits", the 'legal' version of the LP? So short, it retailed at the price of a 12" single + came with instructions on how to recreate the original record. I could never decide if this was classic or dud.
― Jeff W, Sunday, February 24, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-lDwwW7Ql0

+ the instructions themselves:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/woolner/3339270412/sizes/o/

consider me 100% rocked.

you could use a Roland 808 drum machine (well cheap

lol1987 - you know what's gone (up in price dramatically)

What about the DR550 Boss Dr Rhythm?

Mark 1 or Mark 2?

Mark 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erm6WijDfYc
^^^ this is the interview (from the Antoine-why-does-he-have-his-hands-behind-his-back-all-the-time-de-Caunes programme Rapido {"Rapeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedo"}) that had me going to a bookstore J R Hartley style to get a copy. Luckily this was in 1998 a month before it was republished - it wasn't until I read Drummond's foreword to the new edition that I found out how difficult to get hold of it was.

(btw the interview is from 1991, I only saw it in 1998 because I was watching through the bits of old programmes recorded on an old videotape)

to get a copy

I meant "to get a copy of The Manual"

xpost - I was talking 'bout the international top 10 single "3 a.m. Eternal (Live at the S.S.L.)" version, which hit in January 1991 and it still gonna rock you -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaQW7e8DfKY

I meant "to get a copy of The Manual"

isn't this available to read online now via tom robinsons website ?
i'm sure he used to have the whole book as a notepad txt file somewhere ..

yeah, he was bootlegging it the whole time the legit reprint was out. glad to be an INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THIEF WITH A WIFE AND KIDS, morelike

I have a PDF of The Manual. I'm sure it's out there.

yes

yes they did indeed

http://www.kirps.com/web/main/resources/music/themanual/

ouch was that not cool to post that link? i was under the impression it's been out-of-print for ages or whatever

it was out of print from about 1989 to 1998, then in print for about ten years, now out again - the reprint is currently going for 90 quid 2nd hand on Amazon

The original was an A4 size, the reprint (with an additional chapter) was A3.

(I have an orig)

you mean a5 no? as in smaller than the original? i've seen copies of it but only ever read the .txt file myself...

Sorry, yes. I meant to type that. Must consentrate.

the reprint was smaller than standard paperback, WAY smaller than A5

105mm x 148mm = A6

I think 3AM Eternal came first though - the first version came out in 89, The Power was a hit in 1990.

Yeah, but the original 1989 version of "3AM Eternal" is totally different from the 1990 "Live at the S.S.L." remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr7fgFrzTck

It's the "Live at the S.S.L." remix that sounds like "The Power". Don't know which one came out first though, as they're both 1990 releases.

lols at those worrying about the online intellectual property rights of the Kopyright Liberation Front.

I don't much care about intellectual property rights, but I love "The Power" (and Snap! in general), so it'd be funny if those Revered Artists of The KLF were actually biting the Cheesy Eurodisco producers of Snap!

I'm not sure if it'd be that funny, seeing as they also bite, ooh, I dunno, Gary Glitter?

I'm pretty sure one of the Manual's steps to having a #1 invloves going to clubs and sampling the very latest rhythms from Black American dance music, so biting then-current "cheesy" music was certainly part of their MO.

OK, I can confirm that "The Power" came after.

How do you know?

I worked in a nightclub in Turkey, and we used "The Power" oft.

Hang on, you're talking about some specific part of the "Stadium" remixes? OK, those came after.

Yeah, like I said above: the original "3AM Eternal" came out before "The Power", but that one sounds way different. It's the later remix that sounds like it's biting "The Power".

Well, if you mean the "Ancients of MuMu" chant, that was on the 1987 album.

Tuomas is referring to combination of rapping, diva vocal interjections and "guitar" synth sounds common to the 3AM Eternal (Live at SSL) version, Snap! "The POwer" and C&C Music Factory "Gonna Make You Sweat" all released in 1990.

Mastermind - 2012/2013

Questions are put to four more contenders. Subjects are the novels of William Golding, the Soviet Union under Stalin 1924-1939, The KLF and When the Boat Comes In.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pf0sq/Mastermind_2012_2013_Episode_16/

or just the klf bit for non uk people -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLwRNmI5Mw

I got 11 out of 13 iirc

About 1/4 of the way through this and it's pretty good thus far:
http://www.amazon.com/KLF-Chaos-Magic-Music-ebook/dp/B00ABFHOS0/
Ties together all sorts of stuff about Discordian-ism (?) that I didn't know. It's practically a philosophy book thus far.

Bruno Brookes lol!

'could have been either'

When I listen to "What Time is Love?" I get pumped, and I kind of want to scream MORTAL KOMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!

a whole bunch of rare klf has hit the digital stores.. white room soundtrack, chill out, space, a couple of remix & offcuts things.

they're bootlegs

[chill out is still legal in the US, but the other things are mostly CDs compiled on the mailing list in the 90s by ƃǝʃʇooq Ɫ861 pǝsɹǝʌǝɹ-sǝpıs ǝɥʇ ǝuop pɐɥ ʇɐɥʇ ǝpnp ǝɥʇ]

interesting

worth having anyway?

the sound quality of some of these is very dubious - obviously recorded without much love form vinyl. the "lost sound of mu" comps seem very un-KLF concepts. time will tell if these are legit.

the txt on the website seems to imply it's just tony thorpe messing around with old samples.
not overly impressed, but i guess that's all part of the plan.
if it is actually them.

it seems like a sad and tired, unfunny steaming pile of horse manure to me. hard to believe cauty & drummond had much to do with it.

i have from heard from someone who has knowledge of such things that this is a genuine attempt at an xmas #1 and does involve c&d.
which, despite the pretty awful track, is all fine and dandy,
but how is this possible via a free download that's available on their website !?

“their website”: https://klfkare.com/vibe.php

yeah, exactly.
despite assurances from folks closer to the situation than me, i am somewhat dubious.

It’s no worse than Jimmy’s last attempt at a Christmas #1 tbh